Or they included it back in when they changed the included cable from USB-A/Lightning to USB-C/Lighting since no one who only bought iPhones already had a charger for that
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Apple Ordered to Stop Selling iPhones Without Charger in Brazil [Updated]
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Now how about we start bullying them to get the headphone jack back?
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Not going to work because the AirPods business will tank for Apple.
Well, considering other Bluetooth headphones work and not everyone goes out and gets AirPods as their wireless earphones of choice, I don't see why Apple can't gain adding the jack back and by also releasing wired versions of these products (and maybe do more than just adding wires for example). Just wondering.
Apple is mostly concerned about reducing their carbon foot print before 2030.
It doesn't have to work for all customers if they can reduce the number of charger being produced for their customer base as a whole.
Apple sells about 200 million iPhone per year. In 10 years that would mean 2 billion chargers. If they can reduce the number of Apple chargers bought separately to 500 million, it would be a huge success for Apple.
But the issue here isn't "including a fast charger" but "a charger".
Brazil had no problems with Apple providing a 5W charger.
The cable that the iPhone 12 and newer ships with is a USB C to lightning. Exisiting iPhone users don't have the USB C blocks, requiring them to buy a new charging block to even use the included cable. This requires additional shipping, packaging and material from apple or 3rd party which increases waste. If they wanted to do good they would've included the original USB A to lightning.
I'm not at all upset that they stopped including their brick since they're using USB-C PD compliant charging (yeah, with a lightning connector, but still). These bricks *will not* again become standard to include in most places. It would be opposite the environmental goals the EU is striving towards regarding electronic waste.
I get that it is a win for Apple short-term to not include them, but really, the usual free market factors will make sure you (over)pay the usual amount for what you get long-term.
I get that it is a win for Apple short-term to not include them, but really, the usual free market factors will make sure you (over)pay the usual amount for what you get long-term.
I love to see this.
Thank you Brazil
We need more and more pushback on so many of the pure greed tactics Apple has embraced over the last decade.
Thank you Brazil
We need more and more pushback on so many of the pure greed tactics Apple has embraced over the last decade.
They’ve always done that. The cost of the charger was factored in. Removing it decreases costs to Apple while also offering environmental benefits. Also, if Apple removes the charger and doesn’t appear to “cut” prices it doesn’t mean it didn’t. Sometimes a company can keep prices and profit margins the same by cutting costs, rather than keeping costs higher (include charger) and raising prices.
I would wager the thinking was that the average buyer probably owned one or several lightning to USB-A cables by this point already, so including a future-proof type-C cable would be of more help.
They don't have to buy a new charger. They can use their existing USB-A and USB-A-to-Lightning cable.
If this is their first iPhone, they can buy an USB-A-to-Lightning cable.
No new charger is needed to charge a new iPhone.
then get a fast charger - very simple. Or use your modern computer's USBC port to charge your phone at higher speeds or use your computer's charger?
I have 3x 5W chargers that are plugged in at several spots for overnight charging and I have a 20W at my bag for charging on the go that I rarely use since I plug it into my MBA.
If this was truly the reason, they'd have not lost their "courage" and long before switched to USB-Cs for iPhones.
Good for you. Not everyone does. A new phone that costs as much as an iPhone does should have a charger included.
If Apple makes more profit by reducing their own carbon footprint, that's a good thing!
If you care about climate change (I don't), you should be happy every time a company can make a profit by reducing manufacturing and thus carbon usage. It's the best incentive there is.
How many people responding here don't have a drawer full of 5W bricks? Maybe they should have clear on what they were selling. But my TV doesn't come with electricity or my car with a credit card to buy gas. Some may just use the MagSafe charger. Total waste to include a brick with an iPhone.
How many free bags should you get on an airline flight?
How many free bags should you get on an airline flight?
I want one included if I am paying 1k for a device. I bought one for my 12 because they changed the cable and I also have the charging pad. Up the price by 20 bucks if they have to keeps me from buying one online that is packaged in an unnecessarily large box with bubble wrap
If your TV didn't come with a plug, this analogy would be more accurate.
Manufacturers are just going to raise prices, they know how to play this game.
What next, every phone should include
head phones ?
case for protection ?
battery pack ?
2 year warranty ?
We consumers pay the price, none of this is free.
Old habits are hard to break. Consumers don't like change, especially when there is a perception of deception in terms of the price. The price didn't change, but the charger was removed, so that's a tough pill to swallow, eh? But what if Apple's margins are slimmer than ever? They don't share that important tidbit.