Easy way around this: include the charger and offer a discount for a box with no charger. Makes everyone happier.
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Apple Ordered to Stop Selling iPhones Without Charger in Brazil [Updated]
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Apple is showing its arrogance and disrespect to Brazil. They have their consumer laws and if Apple doesn’t want to abide by them they don’t have to sell their products in that country. Actually, I think the court in Brazil is being lenient where they could have banned Apple from selling anything After they thumbed their nose after paying a $2 million fine, and also losing the individual lawsuit too… That is a sure sign that Apple’s board of directors needs to be refreshed and the Wall Street mindset flushed from Apple’s ranks… they can spend huge sums with a PR firm trying to mold the public image of Apple being a good corporate neighbor and citizen, when truth is they are everything but that… This type of thing is showing up more and more in Apples products and is evidence Apple has lost its creative and innovative ways, and are now just trying to ride the coat tails of past successes and designs… thats not going to last much longer.
The real issue is the pointless outdated port on the phone itself, thank god that's on the way out
They did not lower the price when they first removed earbuds and charger. That was before inflation.
Why should anyone have to buy anything else to use their device? Yeah, this person might have an old cable, but what if that cable is 5 years old and frayed?
Even then, if someone is new to Apple and doesn't have a USB-C charger, then what? Buy a USB-A to lightning cable? Why should that be the burden of the user. It's not a screen protector or case.
There are a number of "real issues" with Apple.
They stopped including the chargers in other places too, USA for example.
It's not conjecture, it's simply math. When you buy an iPhone you pay for everything that's included and then some, it's certainly not sold at a loss.
Really hope other countries also follow suit. And not just order Apple, but every other manufacturer who followed them and did the same BS.
That analogy does not make sense at all. According to your analogy iPhone should have come without a battery or screen and you had to purchase these elements in order to use the iPhone.
iPhone comes with a cable that can charge it with any computer/charger that is currently at your household.
PS: in your analogy it would be something like ordering a meal from a restaurant to go and they don't give you a bag for it. Since you have many reusable bags at home, come with one when ordering take away food.
I’m not laughing.
It’s quite simple Apple.
Give people the choice. Discount the phone or pick up the charger.
This really annoys me. Samsung ripped on apple for having a non removable battery, removing the headphone jack, the notch and now the charger, after doing the exact same thing a year or so later. Yet nobody seems to be annoyed at them, why the double standards?
iPhone price increases have out-paced inflation since it released. Up until recently, inflation was 2% on average year-over-year. iPhone prices have grown above that. Even if inflation was 10%. A 10% increase on a $800 phone is $80 not $100.
The laymen don't make it a problem either.
When my mother in her 60ties got a new iPhone, she didn't even use the included cable. She used the same charger and cable she use for her iPad and the previous iPhone.
In fact, that charger has stayed in the same socket for years with cable hanging out and nothing changed for her.
But you don't need an USB-C charger to charge an iPhone! You can use any old USB-A charger.
When I said not including a charger was indefensible, I figured it'd be 100% agreement but apparently even that has people taking the opposite argument.
Quite simple actually, and not for 'conspiracy' reasons like so many claim.
The box went to half the height.
In 2020 air freight was both extremely expensive AND in short supply. Shrinking the boxes allowed Apple to fit close to twice as many iPhones in half the space.
As much as people might scream that they'd have waited longer...we know that's not true.
Yeah that picture shows double size box and I get it
I think they could have made the box 1 inch longer and still make it skinnier and accommodate the new USB charging brick
They would have only a 15% box dimension difference maybe.
I have zillions of electronic devices and even I did not have enough USB-C.
Are they being forced to buy iPhones at gunpoint? Why is a company legally required to sell you what you want?
but the cable included was a usbc to lightning cable.
If only they included a hybrid usbc/a to lightning cable in the box, it would have made 100% sense and noone would be bitching about it.
Oh wait... They probably would.
Yes, I'm sure people are having to choose between feeding their families and buying a $10-$20 charger (or adapter) after buying this luxury item after failing to do their research. This whole controversy is simply silly. Apple should be able to sell whatever they want as long as they clearly state what you're getting, which they do.
Not only that, but it just feels downright wrong to open an iPhone box and not get the charger brick and headphones 😑
If they provided a USB-A I wouldn't say I needed one, because I have a ton of those. But if they were offering USB-C I'd claim I Needed one.