And you think Apple approves of that? LMAO! I'm talking about Apple themselves abusing the system or allowing governments to abuse it.
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Apple Outlines Security and Privacy of CSAM Detection System in New Document
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And you think Apple approves of that? LMAO! I'm talking about Apple themselves abusing the system or allowing governments to abuse it.
From this thread : 8 pages are folks spouting conspiracy theories such as Backdoor’s and government deals and Apple getting into pressure to out its own innocent user base to foreign governments with no proof but conjecture and “election was stolen like thinking conspiracy theories”
3 pages are folks who didn’t know Apple has been scanning your private images and will search text in your images with this release
5 pages of folks trying to explain how this tech works for people more bothered by speculation than reading the documentation in full to allay their concerns
1 page is trolling
1 page are the predators
3 pages are folks who didn’t know Apple has been scanning your private images and will search text in your images with this release
5 pages of folks trying to explain how this tech works for people more bothered by speculation than reading the documentation in full to allay their concerns
1 page is trolling
1 page are the predators
When my device scans for facial or object recognition in photos, that information is kept on the phone and never shared with another entity, so quite a bit different.
We understand the on phone scan is secure and that our information is safe unless we have a collection of CSAM. We understand that if we don’t use iCloud Photo, it won’t share the information with Apple. That is not the point. I have had iCloud Photos turned off for many years because I don’t use my phone for photos other than receipts or things I see in a store that I wanted to remember to look at later. I have zero concern what they might find scanning my photos. The technology they developed for this is very powerful and can easily be abused. Once they release this, they cannot just reel it back in. They will be asked to use this for other things and they won’t be able to say we can’t scan users phones because they have now shown they can. What is considered ‘ok’ here may not be ok in another country and people could suffer great consequences. Final point is just because the code is currently configured to send matched hashes to Apple if iCloud photos is turned on, that is not a technical dependency. A simple code change could send data constantly.
This feature will do the same. It will keep information in Device unless you have 30 child porn images on your phone . Apple is not contacted AT ALL until the 30 images are digitally verified before it goes to human verification
for 30 of your images to be incorrectly tagged your phone needs to have 30 million images on the device for enough false matches . Let me know when you have 30 million images on your phone
What I'm reading from people, is a high level of concern over the long-term privacy implications of such a tool. Apple's description of the the way the tool works, is literally the definition of a backdoor. How is that not clicking?
Some of us come from free societies where we are not used to having our civil rights stripped.
I am just amazed how some people can defend what Apple is doing here, the inspection of their private data and blindly trust a corporation known to concede to any Chinese government demand. You really gotta have an empty brain.
sure just trade all your rights for some new emojis Lollll
And yes! In Android at least you can customize, uninstall, use a custom rom and actually make sure there is no scanning going on. Open source perks.
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iPhones scanning your iCloud images are civil rights being stripped.
Any iPhone sold in the last 2 years paid for iOS 15 already.
and a few shills that defend apple for undisclosed reasons, with zero evidence, and expecting everyone to just trust apple.
Evidence is produced by accusers and right now it’s simply tin foil hat conspiracy theories and laughable hypotheticals
Re-read tyler's comment. I'm simply responding to the point about a blanket statement of Apple opening any file is something that Apple is already doing. That stance is invalid with regards to privacy.
Doesn't make sense. Apple has had the technology to send your entire phone's data back to iCloud and be able to decrypt it on their end. If you didn't like that, you turned it off. You seem to have ZERO issue with that. But suddenly, when Apple builds a technology that sends only some images with the capability to decrypt a "visual derivative" form of that photo only after a high threshold as been met which can be turned off, you have a problem.
The logic here doesn't make sense.
A simple code change could force you to upload your entire phone to iCloud too. Remember when Apple was uploading your entire GPS location history?
So what's different now?
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Its software that once installed can be used to flag images apple or any government wants.
Have a winnie the pooh image, china would like to have a word with you.
Apple scans an image on your genius-level-IQ-phone, and compares it to any database they want without you knowing. The front door is that it's only going to work if you enable iCloud, and only for CSAM photos. The backdoor is the mechanism is there for any purpose they might deem essential in the future.
Those are 1-1 synced iCloud images . How is this a back door but if only iCloud servers was scanned for the very same images, that wouldn’t be a back door ? . A back door is when a government has the key to the iPhone’s Secure Enclave where if the user has iCloud offf, even then governments can enter the iPhone easily . THATS a back door. Genius
apple gives china access to icloud
apple installs Russian software on the iphone
The pot is heating up but you like the frog, are just in denial of the final outcome.
Who cares if Apple approves of it or not. Their false narrative of them saying these things are secure caused someone to get killed. Apple is the least entity I care about if they arelocked out of this scanning technology or not. I care about the NSO who is going to act like a fly on poop on this to revise it for their Pegasus 2 software. Guess what, Apple will not approve of that either but its going to happen. Thus anyone that can see the bigger picture of why this is bad is here complaining about it.
Re-read my post again and tell me how any of what you stated applies. It seems like you are just posted a generic response to try to calm the internet down over this horrible idea Apple has. You’re also trusting Apple’s statement regarding the accuracy. Siri is also suppose to correctly recognize my voice only, but I’ve seen first hand how accurate that is.
iCloud data was always open to all countries which demanded it . This is a known issue with iCloud useage . That does not compromise data of devices which have iCloud OFF in China
Apple was asked to install locally developed apps in Russia JUST LIKE you yourself support 3rd party app stores to be allowed. If you want 3rd party app stores in USA why not other countries like russia ?
yes as I said before I am trusting apples statement as a user . You are not . You should leave the ecosystem instantly if you don’t trust Apple
and that’s what it boils down to. Because Apple is allowing your phone to scan CSAM on device , suddenly Apple should not be trusted that this will not expand to other scanning categories
I see where you are coming from with this, and would agree if the only thing this new ‘feature’ did was scan my images and deny the upload to iCloud if it detected something it thought was CSAM, and that was it. Of course that doesn’t involve law enforcement, sharing data with government agencies, or really anyone other than me so doesn’t really invade my privacy. Unfortunately, it doesn’t work like that and now that the ability to scan users phones is out, governments can and will make requests and Apple will need to comply.
You are dodging the question. This has nothing to do with distrusting Dr. Fauci, this is merely an attempt to help qualify his vast expertise for the public.
Dr. Fauci wears glasses, yes?
So because of flaws in his vision, he has a prescription for lenses to correct his vision. The effectiveness of his prescription is dependent on the severity of his visual issues, yes?
Since Dr. Fauci cannot see viral matter with his “poor” human vision, he needs another type of glasses with a certain “prescription” to see down that small.
It would be however be faulty to assume Dr. Fauci’s regular glasses restore his vision to 20/20, because the severity can be greater than treatable, with also a range of diminishing returns past the point of perfect 20/20 correction.
So how good are his other “glasses”? How well do they work, precisely?
What exactly is the difference if the scan occurs on device is the data being scanned is a 1-1 sync with iCloud photos. Governments have requested data of iCloud , google drive . One drive, Amazon drive .. since .. 2005. Where was this slippery slope theory before august 5, 2021 on cloud data exactly . I’m asking because the only data open to device to scan is a 1-1 iCloud synced data.
In simpler terms: what will the governments want to scan that is different on the phone than what they can already do on the cloud . What is different ?
I think we all know and agree that there is no such thing as a 100% secure system when human beings are involved. That's not the point. The point is, regardless of them not being perfect, Apple DOES take privacy and security seriously.