Apple, you sold me a device so now it’s my property. You have no right to use it as a spy tool. Maybe we should build a tool to monitor all the food that enters your house to make sure you’re not breaking your diet?
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Apple Outlines Security and Privacy of CSAM Detection System in New Document
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You should erase the storage device on your property, as Apple owns the software running on it, and they have the right to write the software as they choose. If you don't want the software, then you don't need to install it.
Just a little reminder to everyone who wants to show some resistance:
Do switch off auto download and installation of updates in your iOS devices.
Do switch off auto download and installation of updates in your iOS devices.
This is like an FBI agent in your house checking every time you pack your suitcase in case you decide to take something across state lines that you shouldn’t.
And you need to pay for his meals.
You claimed scanning was ok. I was clearly saying that it's only ok if I agree and the scan is 100% for my benefit only. Your benefit is the money I paid.
Wow, what utter rot! You guys are living in your own little world. They have announced their intentions loud and clear. There is no secrecy here. And you DO consent to it if you use iCloud for photos. They have already said that if you disable iCloud for photos, nothing is being scanned. So just don't use iCloud for photos if you're so paranoid about it. Problem solved! As noted in my post above, you have always given up 100% privacy once you upload things from your phone to Apple's servers.
This is such a dramatic reaction 😂 I hate to know what you’ll do when you find out about Google
I said scanning has always happened, I never said "scanning is OK." But to be clear, scanning is ok, if it's to protect someone. If you want to come to my house, and you bring a cat with you, which will cause my son's airways to close up, I'd want to know if you have a cat with you before you enter my house.
I don’t want to be the one in a trillion, that suddenly turns out to be one in a million (or less) due to a bug in Apples OS, firmware or software. It’s not that iOS13, iOS14 or Big Sur has demonstrated any exceptionally high software quality.
The possibility of false positives are not lessened by Apples current software regime.
It IS an invasion of MY privacy. What you will accept is up to you. Not important to ME, if you volunteer!
I don’t eat bad apples either, if I can avoid it.
No. This only happens when you are trying to upload to iCloud, so you're already at the airport, walking through customs.
Great, if they refund people for the iCloud storage and the devaluation of the devices impacted by the lack of iCloud access. They also need to have their rights restricted as a condition. Including what they can and can not do with iCloud content. They can't read or share it without my express permission prior to every single event.
No, your house is searching itself. If it finds that a certain criteria is met then it calls the a third party to double check before calling the cops.
An example that is based on previous attempts to deprive people of privacy and which many already consider a questionable action.
"Apple also said that the on-device database of known CSAM images contains only entries that were independently submitted by two or more child safety organizations operating in separate sovereign jurisdictions and not under the control of the same government"
Apple today shared a document that provides a more detailed overview of the child safety features that it first announced last week, including design principles, security and privacy requirements, and threat model considerations.
Apple's plan to detect known Child Sexual Abuse Material (CSAM) images stored in iCloud Photos has been particularly controversial and has prompted concerns from some security researchers, the non-profit Electronic Frontier Foundation, and others about the system potentially being abused by governments as a form of mass surveillance.
The document aims to address these concerns and reiterates some details that surfaced earlier in an interview with Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi, including that Apple expects to set an initial match threshold of 30 known CSAM images before an iCloud account is flagged for manual review by the company.
Apple also said that the on-device database of known CSAM images contains only entries that were independently submitted by two or more child safety organizations operating in separate sovereign jurisdictions and not under the control of the same government.Apple added that it will publish a support document on its website containing a root hash of the encrypted CSAM hash database included with each version of every Apple operating system that supports the feature. Additionally, Apple said users will be able to inspect the root hash of the encrypted database present on their device, and compare it to the expected root hash in the support document. No timeframe was provided for this.
In a memo obtained by Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, Apple said it will have an independent auditor review the system as well. The memo noted that Apple retail employees may be getting questions from customers about the child safety features and linked to a FAQ that Apple shared earlier this week as a resource the employees can use to address the questions and provide more clarity and transparency to customers.
Apple initially said the new child safety features would be coming to the iPhone, iPad, and Mac with software updates later this year, and the company said the features would be available in the U.S. only at launch. Despite facing criticism, Apple today said it has not made any changes to this timeframe for rolling out the features to users.
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What they are actually confirming is that their excuse about safeguarding children is a ruse, as withough government files they are reliant on one database, and not even a crime fighting database nor from those whose task is to specifically seek out such criminals, and where this idea from Apple will make it harder for these authorities to do their job.
Frankly, I don't want to see or hear some trumped up crap about how secure their intrusion into your privacy is, nor about how secure THEIR surveillance of your computer is, because again its obfuscation to suggest its pictures on iCloud, when the process starts with software on YOUR hardware.
It is clear Apple are struggling to justify this 360degree turn on privacy, but in my experience if an idea is crap, better to scrap it than try continuously to justify the unjustifiable.
Perhaps Apple should have a proper user panel to help guide them as to what users want, as opposed to this awful idea. People might wonder if I'm now anti Apple. The answer unequivocal NO. In fact my loyalty to Apple is what pushes me to get them to change this dangerous and ridiculous move in having snooping software on your equipment, as there is no point on earth in assuring anyone that its secure or that it won't be extended, because previously Apple got on their own pedestal to explain how crucial it was for them to protect the very privacy they now seek to destroy.
It won't even help in the fight against child abuse, it will make the task harder for investigating authorities who DO HAVE A REMIT to try to catch these awful people, but where they will obviously take steps that include VPN, Tor, dark web, or encryption and avoid iCloud like the plague. But the problem is it IS NOT just iCloud, the problem starts on your hardware, hardware you have paid, hardware where you should decide how its processing power is used, and hardware you pay the electricity bill for!
SURVEILLANCE IS SURVEILLANCE, and I'm starting to wonder now with the attempts to mitigate their actions whether. it was indeed pressure, as its certainly doesn't seem like safeguarding kids, when it will encourage paedophiles to take preventative action to hide their evil deeds.
No, you are telling your house to search itself by packing it up, loading it on a truck, and trying to drive across state lines. If it finds that a certain criteria is met then it calls a third part to double check before telling the customs agent.
Nope, because with Apple’s system the user bears the cost of doing the check. So this is like you being in an airport, having to take every single item you’re carrying out of your bag and holding it up to the camera.
Apple makes the TSA look like good customer service. That’s how far they’ve fallen.
More like you're at the airport, and your bag does the work for you. You don't have to do anything.
However it sounds is besides the point. The fact is that you do own your device, and Apple does own their servers and their software.
Good luck with that! I'd suggest the better, more reasonable alternative is to let go of your paranoia about it and just move on with life. If you're not uploading anything stupid to their servers, Apple doesn't care what you do.
Heck, you don't have to be at the airport! Your bag just tells someone you will never meet whatever is in it and where you are.