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Expect an iPhone 4S, don't expect an iPhone 5.

Then maybe you won't be so angry on Tuesday.

Expect nothing.

Then maybe you'll be excited by everything on Tuesday. And if nothing comes out, you won't be disappointed.

BL.
 
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aurichie said:
I think this is game over for :apple:. Clearly if the best they can come up with after 17 months is a pathetic speed bump for an already ageing iPhone 4 the company is in big trouble. I knew this would happen when Steve left.

Hp will buy out apple and close them down within 15 months. The apple is rotten
 
I don't care what they release, a 4S or a 5. The crack on the back of my battered 3G has now reached from the bottom to the Apple logo and my mute button is a couple days away from falling off.
I just need a new phone. :D
 
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JMB1911 said:
iPhone 5 is still coming....


wow this has been a crazy rumor season...I am with the crowd that says apple better have a new design or face a loss of market share

Who knew you were a business guru...why don't you fix all the other business blunders apple has had?
 
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zigzagable said:
In what sense? The rumors are that the internals are going to be updated, so how would the phone be out-dated by an internal update? Do you mean the look will be out-dated? Because it's still the best looking phone out there.

im talking about them releasing an iPhone 4s instead of the iPhone 5. unless the iPhone 4s = iPhone 5, then, like i said it will be outdated. the iphone 4s isn't getting many internal upgrades. its gonna have the same screen size, and its gonna look the same. there are already phones out now that beat the iphone 4s. now, if the phone we get has all the features that are rumored to be in the iphone 5 (no matter what its called), then i stand corrected. but if the TRUE iphone 4s is released, then it WILL be outdated

I dont think you are using the word "beat" properly.

People have claimed better spec phones since the original iPhone was announced. None of those phones have ever beat the iPhone.
 
Not a statement but genuinely a question;
Is there a market for a 5 & 4s? On face value you would think so!
Are other phone companies making low end cheaper devices as well as high end?
Apple has NEVER in the past released a cheaper model phone, only ever the best they can produce.
Many times they've been caught out with prototypes in their new cases, maybe this time we've all been seeing prototypes in the 'test' case?
 
i've been saying for months now that there was not going to be an iphone 5. look at the iphone 3gs, they released a 3gs that was faster, had a better camera and a few other things. obviously with the flaws in the iphone 4 they would correct them and rebrand them as iphone 4s. of course people will still buy it, I know I will because i still have the 3g and I want a new iphone on verizon
 
It would be awesome if Apple released an iPhone 5 in the same form factor as the iPhone 3G/3GS casing. No one would see that coming!
 
Whose more likely to misspell a word. A professional retailer or someone looking for attention who faked an image.

Professional retailers have made mistakes before. For example, using applications from a different OS entirely (e.g. iOS apps on Android phones).

However, I'm not claiming the previously-posted images are real, just saying.
 
i think what most people fail to understand is...apple moved the iphone back to the fall because they wanted to make the june/july wwdc more software oriented and then keep the iphone/ipod for the october events, not so they can make a more diesel phone, but just to be more organized
 
Hi Mom, when did you join Macrumors?

It's not about being a mom, it is about the changing media landscape and not wanting to run full force towards every new gadget out there. I'm a 27-year-old teacher. I do find it saddening to see a train full of people with their eyes glued to smart phone screens, kids playing video games and texting in class, husband and wife both thumbing away in a coffee shop, my dad in a dark room on the other side of the house on christmas eve and so on. Call me nostalgic, but I miss passing notes in school and whether you think that is a positive or negative change, smart phones are changing the most basic elements of our lives--from our culture to patterns of thought--in ways that we can't predict or stop; that doesn't mean we should just go on uncritically accepting or even celebrating every new change. Society hasn't even had time to adjust enough to develop a new etiquete around media-rich devices and if you think that nobody has a problem with this or finds them obnoxious you are wrong.

Look, I'm going to get one. I've had an android phone for a full contract period. I'm sick of it and I want more and better-the iphone. I've had iphone news alerts set on google and on my phone's pulse reader for over a year. I appreciate the elegance, the fact that they just work, the fact that they can replace so many other gadgets at honestly a fraction of the cost. That doesn't mean I want to turn my life or my wallet or my increasingly divided attention over to my phone.

I don't see how this is such an offensive position to take.
 
So we hope you have enjoyed our presentation of the new iPhone 4s & iPhone 5, now one more thing, here's the iPad 2HD with retina class display :eek:
 
It is all Steve Jobs fault...

As part of the deal when Steve stepped down as CEO he requested one thing, the iPhone 5 early. Unfortunately, they did not anticipate how many he wanted.
 
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ApplesAndOrangs said:
Has apple been hemmorrhaging marketshare or something? They've remained relatively steady for a year and a half... what makes you think introducing a new product is suddenly going to make them lose share?

That is the past growth.

Now let's talk about the future. If i4s is a minor bump, they will lose share to s2 and s3. Back then, there was no android phone that was comparable to the iphone. In the past competition was not as fierce as it is now.

Wat? Competition that is being beaten by the 3GS?

At the end of the day android is still android.
 
It's not about being a mom, it is about the changing media landscape and not wanting to run full force towards every new gadget out there. I'm a 27-year-old teacher. I do find it saddening to see a train full of people with their eyes glued to smart phone screens, kids playing video games and texting in class, husband and wife both thumbing away in a coffee shop, my dad in a dark room on the other side of the house on christmas eve and so on. Call me nostalgic, but I miss passing notes in school and whether you think that is a positive or negative change, smart phones are changing the most basic elements of our lives--from our culture to patterns of thought--in ways that we can't predict or stop; that doesn't mean we should just go on uncritically accepting or even celebrating every new change. Society hasn't even had time to adjust enough to develop a new etiquete around media-rich devices and if you think that nobody has a problem with this or finds them obnoxious you are wrong.

Now I'm even more sure you're my Mom.
 
It's not about being a mom, it is about the changing media landscape and not wanting to run full force towards every new gadget out there. I'm a 27-year-old teacher. I do find it saddening to see a train full of people with their eyes glued to smart phone screens, kids playing video games and texting in class, husband and wife both thumbing away in a coffee shop, my dad in a dark room on the other side of the house on christmas eve and so on. Call me nostalgic, but I miss passing notes in school and whether you think that is a positive or negative change, smart phones are changing the most basic elements of our lives--from our culture to patterns of thought--in ways that we can't predict or stop; that doesn't mean we should just go on uncritically accepting or even celebrating every new change. Society hasn't even had time to adjust enough to develop a new etiquete around media-rich devices and if you think that nobody has a problem with this or finds them obnoxious you are wrong.

Look, I'm going to get one. I've had an android phone for a full contract period. I'm sick of it and I want more and better-the iphone. I've had iphone news alerts set on google and on my phone's pulse reader for over a year. I appreciate the elegance, the fact that they just work, the fact that they can replace so many other gadgets at honestly a fraction of the cost. That doesn't mean I want to turn my life or my wallet or my increasingly divided attention over to my phone.

I don't see how this is such an offensive position to take.

I definitely understand the logic in this. I especially agree with the first paragraph. Tech is great but it definitely has its time and place in our lives... or it should. It's hard to imagine the perspective of younger people who haven't experienced a day without smartphones, notebooks, etc. It's a bit overwhelming to contemplate the changes that have gone on over the past 30 years or so.
 
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I think apple has a teaser/marketing manipulative department that plays with our heads... "accidentally" leaks info then pulls it...
It's worse. Apple doesn't exists, it's all an illusion. Now take your pills.
 
Wow, this thread is blowing up! I can't wait to see how big the 'disappointment' thread is when the 4S is the only new phone announced on Tuesday. I know that I will apart of the ones who are greatly disappointed. I want a redesigned iphone is the worst way.
 
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