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If there is only an iPhone 4S. My decision is going to be very easy. I'll get phone with Android. My wife has one and she loves it. She is going to give her iPhone away.

I had the same sentiment when the iP4 came out (mainly holding out for the white one). I made it <=6 months w/ Android and that was all I could stand. My barely used Nexus One now sits on the shelf next to my Newton, 1st-gen iPhone, iPhone 3G and my Nokia 3650.
 
Here is what Paul Thurrott had to say about this. I found it to be very amusing:

Apple will announce at least one new iPhone next week (there could be a revamped iPhone 4, as well), and although the rumors are all over the map, I have one prediction of my own. And that is that Apple will completely revamp the very much broken external antenna design that it saddled iPhone 4 users with. And that redesign will be present on the iPhone 5 and—if there is one—the "new" version of the iPhone 4 (which I believe the company will release at a lower price point). Beyond that ... whatever. The iPhone is yesterday's smartphone, and though it was fascinating when it came out, Apple has been surpassed by faster-moving and/or more innovative smartphone firms. Including, yes, Microsoft with Windows Phone. Deal with it.
 
You guys think all this crazy chit with the cops in SanFran, and all the other secrecy after the 4 debalicle, and then the invites labled "Let's Talk Iphone", and the 16 months wait, you guys think that after all that, they would simply have a nipple slip, and show the world 3 days early the prize? Get real folks, there will be an iphone 5, and it will kick ass. Will it have a bigger screen, (if it don't, I'll be buying a sgs2).

So c'mon, for the sake of just knowing that the apple people are all reading this chit, and surely rotflamo.

Anyone who doesn't think there will be a 5 is out of their minds. :p

i rly needed your positivity!! :)
 
If apple took 16 months to only up the camera and processor, etc. and keeps the same design. obviously there would be a lot of disappointed people and bad press,

sooo if Apple did do that they would still market their phone as the "iPhone 5" if they marketed it as the iPhone 4s it sounds like less of a significant upgrade. so more bad press
I don't think Apple has ever cared about initial press reaction. Success rewrites history.

The iPad announcement got mixed reviews, with scores of pundits and journals unable to imagine a use case for the device. Even the its name was criticized for its association to feminine hygiene products. Steve's response? "People will get over it." Which they did.

Even if thousands of forum junkies spaz when the 4S is announced, it will still sell like hotcakes, just like the 3gs did.
 
This is good, it will steady everybody's expectations, so there isn't a such a collective rage on tuesday when this is the only new hardware announced. Personally I'm keen to see any iOS 5 stuff that will be unique to the new hardware and will happily update my 3GS. Still looking forward to a 64 gig device though.

If this hardware is coupled with a bit of a price tweak (drop?) it will handily push the mass market for the iPhone. The number of people who DESPERATELY need a 4"+ screen are mostly limited to this forum and not the millions and millions of general consumers that are sold on the brand alone. Now if only the glass is a bit more sturdy so we can tear people away from sporting flipping horrible cases.
 
You'll be making a big mistake, at least choose WP7, the only decent alternative to the iPhone.

That is one thing people seem to forget when they talk about the hodgepodge of android devices. All of those devices have a SERIOUS drawback and that is they run android.

Maybe Amazon will make a forked android phone and then maybe an android phone would be worthwhile, but the actual usage of Android on a cell phone is a huge handicap in a competitive marketplace. That is why a 3 year old iOS phone outsells all android handsets.
 
This rumor was axed, false note on iTunes mentio of only 4S, now bell inventory screen shows both 4s and 5, and the 5 has 8mpx camera & 4" Screen, the 4S seems only having A5 cpu as upgrade and is a lot cheaper.
 
Ummmmm, iPhone (1) to iPhone 3g to iPhone 3Gs to iPhone 4. Your theory is blown!

So, the iPhone 3Gs should have been called the iPhone 4 by your measure. It wasn't.

I don't follow your logic. Apple decided to get cute and called their 2nd generation phone the 3G. When the third generation came out they couldn't exactly call it the 4 so they just added an S on the end to 3G to differentiate it. Whatever Apple annouces on Tuesday it will be called the iPhone 5. It might have the same form factor as the 4 but for marketing purposes it will be the 5. People are saying they will buy something called the iPhone 5 but wouldn't buy something called the 4S so Apple will give them the name that they want.

Apple will also turn the 4 into the cheap phone. There are two flaws with the older phone, however. First, the antenna needs tweaking. Secondly, making a world phone so they don't need to have CDMA and GSM versions will be vital. Hence the 4S talk. It is like the 4 but slightly different.
 
This rumor was axed, false note on iTunes mentio of only 4S, now bell inventory screen shows both 4s and 5, and the 5 has 8mpx camera & 4" Screen, the 4S seems only having A5 cpu as upgrade and is a lot cheaper.

Bullcrap.
 
This is BRILLIANT by Apple. People just do not see what they are doing. They have everyone thinking it will be only a iPhone 4S, just to cover up the iPhone 5. (Okay, I hope this is true!) lol.
 
If there really were two phones coming out, wouldn't their entries also be inside the Beta? Its only going to be a minor upgrade, iPhone 5 won't be until next year, 2 years after the last major hardware refresh.
 
Let me first say this first-- I would prefer a chassis-redesign but its far from necessary in my eyes. If its got an A5, a gig of ram and a nicer camera (along with all the bells and whistles of IOS5), then Im sold. I dont really care what they call it. Its a 5th gen iphone and thats all I care about. I dont need them to reinvent the wheel every single year when the last two designs were so perfect.

Here is my concern-- I really hope that Apple doesnt release an iphone 5 for ATT/Verizon and a gimped, second rate phone (4S) for Sprint. My girlfriend and I are both looking to upgrade and a 4S would probably still be a major improvement, but theres just something psychological about getting a gimped phone. I want to be with Sprint for their price/service here and I want a top-tier phone too. I know its silly but Im worried that Apple asked x amount for the next gen iphone and x-y amount for a revised iphone 4. We both want a top-of-the-line Apple product that will work flawlessly and reach obsolescence later.

I dont want to sign a 2 year contract for a phone that will really be two generations behind in a about a year.
 
As much as I want to believe that we'll get a redesigned phone, i think that's it.

I'm really disappointed, because I need a new iphone, but I think the iphone 4 shape is really ugly.

:(
 


We know for a FACT that we will get the most revolutionary UI upgrade in the history of computing. Is that just a spec bump? Don't think so.


With the exception of the new notification system, and the odd new icon the general UI is pretty much still identical to what it has been for the last 4 variations of iOS. Hardly revolutionary! But definitely includes a few evolutionary steps forward.
 
Nothing funnier than watching iSheep turning into a bunch of iChickens running around with their heads cut off. I must admit, you're a blind loyal lot, but every year near launch, you become the most amusing bunch. I love you guys. :D

So for now, take a deep breath, look at your current iphone and tell it that you love it and will never ever leave it. No matter how dated or out classed it is.

There will be a newly designed iPhone come launch day; And YES you will love it no matter how much you may truly not be satisfied inside. ;)
 
People who are still persistent and full of hope that there will be a redesigned iPhone 5 are under the sheer delusion of geekness. You have to look at things through a businessman's, a marketer's point of view. After all, that is what Apple is. Not a geek boy, a world-wide company. You don't make more money than the Federal Bank without wondrous marketing plans, business tactics. Let me try to explain(like many other tried) why there won't be a redesigned iPhone 5.

1) Main thing about this Tuesday's event is iOS 5 and iCloud, more software than hardware i mean.
2) Apple worked so much on iPhone 4's current design. They state that antenna on the outside is a great innovation and won't be changing that. Plus, they just released CDMA iPhone 4 four months ago and it sold like crazy. Hell it's still selling. From Apple's point of view, iPhone 4 design is a cow still with a lot of milk to milk.
3) You have to think futuristic on these things. Think for a moment what can be new on the iPhone that will come out after this Tuesdays'. First thing that comes to mind is LTE capability isn't it? So i'm positive that there will be a LTE iPhone in 2012, of course there will be at least an announcement of an iOS 6 in 2012 too. So LTE capability is a huge thing and needs a new design. If they redesign the iPhone now, they will need another design next year, not a sane thing to do.

I think there won't be an iPhone 5 re-design this Tuesday mainly because Apple thinks that the iPhone 4 design can go on for at least 8-10 months. Come June, announce new iPhone and things get back in schedule(regular June, iPhone month schedule)

And unfortunately i am saying these still owning a iPhone 3G from the October of 2008, now without the lock button and extra slowness. I too would want an iPhone redesign especially after waiting this 4-5 months for a new phone but my logic is stating otherwise.

This will be long, but I advise everyone to read because it contains more substance than most of the posts here.

You can't tell everyone to 'think from a businessman's, a marketer's point of view' and give supporting statements in the definitive when the statements are weak, biased, and mindless 'points'

1. It's about the hardware. How does one claim it's about the software when it says 'Let's talk iPhone' on the official invitation
2. OK, the Verizon iPhone is still selling, and I'm not surprised given that it is an iPhone and that it was released just seven months ago. It is NOT selling even close to the rate that it was during the first few months that it came out. The rate diminishes immensely as you go through time (one of your businessman's point of views). The 'milk to milk' becomes milk drops the more time goes by when compared to something brand new.

From your marketer's point of view, the design is one of the top, if not the top reasons a customer makes his purchase. It has immediate appeal to the senses, and it is the one thing that a standard customer takes away with the most after looking at it online or playing with it in the store for a few minutes. Why do you think they immediately made the iPad 2 thinner and lighter. Couldn't they have made just an iPad 1.5 with the other new features -oh, which by the way, mimic the supposed 4S features to the dot - and 'milked the milk' out of that, all while waiting for the iPad 3 to bust out the thinner and lighter design?

They are expecting to sell 30 million of these phones IN ONE QUARTER, which is around 9 million MORE than the record setting quarter in 2010. This cannot be accomplished when just a 4 and a 4S are both sitting on the shelf. Customers have to dig to get a grasp on the new features, and even then they are not significant.

3. LTE needs a new design? You don't even know the 5's design, you don't understand Apple's design team, and you probably don't know what an LTE chip looks like (I don't know either, which is why you don't see me posting about what Apple is going to do with LTE).

Finally, notice how 9to5mac now says it has been independently expecting a 4S, while a week ago they said their sources have used the 5 and told them it is a device to behold. And later on, oh by the way there are 'production problems' all of a sudden, and we somehow find this out towards the end of the month, so even though we just said we fully expect a 5, now we are just going to change our minds. Think about the fact that production has been going on now for at least a month. They would have found out about 'production problems' earlier

Notice how Apple Insider is reporting the story about the 4S in iTunes beta. Their supporting evidence is that Ming Kuo guy's report. They don't mention anything about the other reports supporting the 5, and they don't even mention the POSSIBILITY of Apple just using this as a placeholder and leaking it to curb expectations.

Thisismynext first reported about the teardrop, and they haven't reneged on that. Reports about two phones originated in the beginning of the year. Throughout the whole year, rumors about two phones have been persistent.

This is all a coordinated effort. You don't project to sell 30 million (and keep in mind Apple always projects low) after deciding to bill your new phone as a 4S and leaking that information all away. You project to sell 30 million after making a fully new iPhone 5 and by making sure that it doesn't get leaked, thus creating much, much, much more hype. At that point, you don't even have to rely on Apples' marketers' points of view.
 
I agree.

I feel like people are like me, they'll get something because it's better. If the new one looks identical to the old one, people aren't going to drop $399 for early cancellation on their iPhone 4. You'll continue to get your new customers, people who upgrade simply to have the newest even if it's barely better, etc. but it won't be the same as an entirely new phone. And even the new customers won't be as good because of the plethora of decent Android phones that weren't around the last time Apple barely had an upgrade (3G-3GS).

Simply making the design slightly different and adding a 4" screen would be good enough to be considered a redesign. It doesn't even need to be something radical like the 3GS-4. In 16 months, I feel like they could do simply that at least.

Yeah, I do believe that, even with a disappointing upgrade (we'll see), many will still not only stay on their plan but upgrade, as well. As you mentioned, it's expensive to early terminate.

Even with negative press, Apple will still sell millions. However, it will be a negative on Tim Cook, regardless if this was really Jobs' decision.
 
If there really were two phones coming out, wouldn't their entries also be inside the Beta? Its only going to be a minor upgrade, iPhone 5 won't be until next year, 2 years after the last major hardware refresh.

You realise everyman and his dog instantly search the betas for clues right? It's the perfect place for Apple to plant whatever they want to be common knowledge, for right or sneaky reasons.
 
There never was an iphone 5. Now ssh.

Oh, what's this? Yet more evidence of an iPhone 4S? Official this time though?

Guys, it's time to accept there's not going to be an iPhone 5 this year. They'll release the iPhone 4S with a higher resolution camera and the same design as the iPhone 4. It always was going to be this way. There has been no evidence of any redesigned iPhone 5, just crazy rumours created from the darkest imagination of people who read sites like this.


ON TUESDAY, THE IPHONE 4S WILL BE ANNOUNCED.
4S
4S
4S
4S
4S
GOT IT?

P.s, Apple would not release a false beta to "send you off the scent". They're not pathetic like that and are not going to play games with customers.
 
That's not going to happen here, dude. This is MacRumors.

I know this is all about rumors but one post is iphone 5 cases at at&t and itunes says 4s. I just see it as apple has a new phone coming out. Im pumped either way. But im not gonna complain about something when nobody has any real proof of what it will be except apple and we havent heard anything from them til this tues. The only thing is set is ios5 which i will be happy about
 
Oops ;)

Well, it's not Tuesday yet so maybe we'll see a second phone.

If not and this is the new iPhone, my 3GS will remain my phone of choice until the next version comes around. Not a fan of the iPhone 4 form factor, so I can wait.
 
I don't think there will only be an Iphone 4s. Its Tim Cook firs keynote as CEO and just releasing a disappointing (yes disappointing since android is making apple run for its money and just a spec bump will let google a whole year to end up killing the iphone) wont give him a good first impression to the media and a whole lot of consumers. They need HUGE announcements in order for Tim to steal the show. Lets face it a spec bump to the iphone 4 wont make them any good in any possible way, if it does just tell me how, easing its cost? so they can lag behind for a whole other year? hell no.
 
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