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Your right lol maybe I'm a downer on this iPhone news. I really want a redesign, but am buying whatever comes out either way.

I really want a redesign too. This will be my first iPhone (if it actually does come to Sprint), so I'll actually be happy either way, but I would love to see something all new and shiny come Tuesday.

But from all the evidence pouring in, it just doesn't look like it's gonna be that way.:(
 
All this outcry and we know damn well the next iPhone whatever name it has is going to sell out like crazy.

3GS still outsold like every Android phone with better specs this year in the U.S. and it still has the lower resolution of 480x320 and 3.5 inch screen.

You will complain whatever happens and you will still see many people camping out for the next one. Critic-proof. It is like Star Wars saga on Blu-ray. George changed some things again to piss fanboys off and it still shattered records in sales after one week.
 
All right guys this is the news that ends speculation about iPhone 5
Gizmodo have released pictures of leaked iPhone 4 codenamed N90A, the cheaper iPhone 4. This news ends all the speculation about 5 being another as this will make 3 iPhones which is not happening. Bad news but still news.:(

The article is saying this is the 4S basically. This helps the chances of an iPhone 5.
 
Or maybe I'm just clinging to whatever feeble hope that Apple wow's me on Tuesday.

Don't worry, I know the feeling. However, over the years I've noticed that we're rarely ever surprised by a big new product. Generally we learn a lot of real information about it in the days before the event, mixed in with some false information.

I doubt we'll be seeing a new "iPhone 5", unfortunately.
 
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That's the 8GB iPhone 4. Not the 4S.

Still doesn't make sense to me that theyd release the cheaper iPhone 4 and then just a spec bumped iPhone 4 in the form of the 4S.

It makes more sense to me than releasing a 4S and a 5 at the same time.
 
I really want a redesign too. This will be my first iPhone (if it actually does come to Sprint), so I'll actually be happy either way, but I would love to see something all new and shiny come Tuesday.

But from all the evidence pouring in, it just doesn't look like it's gonna be that way.:(

I've had every model except the original. Love the iPhone 4 design, hate its fragility. Can't use it without a case.
 
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Because it is not a redesign but an upgrade to an existing design.

It's still the 5th generation. A business wants to make their new product as appealing as possible and marketing it as a small upgrade when they can just as easily market it as a big upgrade makes zero sense.

It makes sense when they take the design of their products seriously. You mistakenly think the iPhone 5 would substantially sell more than the iPhone 4s with the same exact device.

It becomes even more important when they come out with a redesigned phone in 6-8 months. Perhaps then you will see why the 4s was the right thing to do.
 
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Widashy said:
All right guys this is the news that ends speculation about iPhone 5
Gizmodo have released pictures of leaked iPhone 4 codenamed N90A, the cheaper iPhone 4. This news ends all the speculation about 5 being another as this will make 3 iPhones which is not happening. Bad news but still news.:(

That just proves only one new phone will be released the 4s. The 4 will be moved to replace the 3GS.
 
The sheer.... I don't know what to call it, the sheer just obnoxiousness as if Apple owed them all a iPhone 5 is amazing in this thread. If you cant wrap your head around a spec bump then buy a galaxy or droid, sheesh.

Go vote with your wallet! Do I like that it's not a full redesign? Meh I like the current design. Faster processor would be nice as well as a updated camera. After I gazelle my iPhone 4 I will have a muchly subsidized 4s. That's if I warrant it worth buying. Then again no one knows anything for sure. Let's see a apple notarized tech spec sheet.
 
Lets hope they're just messing with us! Imagine how surprised everyone would be if they did release the iPhone 5.

No on will truly know until the event is over. :apple:
 
All right guys this is the news that ends speculation about iPhone 5
Gizmodo have released pictures of leaked iPhone 4 codenamed N90A, the cheaper iPhone 4. This news ends all the speculation about 5 being another as this will make 3 iPhones which is not happening. Bad news but still news.:(

Three phones could very well happen. Apple currently has two models, the 4 and the cheap 3GS. What they don't have, though, is a super cheap phone for the prepaid market. So there could be an iPhone 5 replacing the 4, an iPhone 4S replacing the 3GS, and a new cheap unsubsidized phone for a prepay option.
 
re original article

"no sexy ip5 for you..." - what the soup nazi would say today

the soup nazi - seinfeld - 1995 - "no soup for you!..."
 
The iphone 4S and 5 will have the same upgrades except the iphone 4s will look like the 4 and be on 3G and will probably cost $99 then the iphone 4 will drop to $50


The iphone 5 will looking different and be on 3G and 4G

You know, I wouldn't mind this (long as the 5 doesn't get a better processor and graphics chip cause I want just as good gaming ability).

I'd be fine with not getting 4G speeds cause I want to keep my unlimited. So I'd be all for this!

WEll if i were getting a new phone now. But I'd love it if next year there was a choice between having 3G or 4G so I could keep my unlimited plan.
 
Lets hope they're just messing with us! Imagine how surprised everyone would be if they did release the iPhone 5.

No on will truly know until the event is over. :apple:


At least half of us EXPECT an iphone 5 to be announced on Tues, so we won't be surprised at all, (just the rest of you guys who believe that a "fixed" 4 will be the only phone) -
 
It's just surprising that after 16 months, the new iPhone will look identical to the last, and I can't help but feel that it's a terribly poor decision.
 
re original article

"no sexy ip5 for you..." - what the soup nazi would say today

the soup nazi - seinfeld - 1995 - "no soup for you!..."


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Cinncinati bell has no idea how many new iPhone models are coming they are speculating like everyone else.

Is this you speculating on speculation?

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The iPhone has never had a fluid generational naming scheme. That is what seems to be eluding some of you. You want apple to protect a naming scheme that never existed

More like keep uniformity, which they obviously love to do.

iPhone 5, iOS 5, A5. That, my friend, is called uniformity.

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You do know apple has not provided Cincinnati bell any info like that and it is simply placeholder information placed there by an employee who knows as much as the average person in this thread.

Speculation of speculation ;)

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The problem is they can just make the iPhone 4 that cheap model like they did with the 3GS. It does not track that they would create a new phone to fill that gap when the current strategy has worked so well.

If Assistant is as great as rumors say and needs the new hardware, then they will upgrade the bottom line to get it in the hands of more consumers. They did the same thing with the 4th gen iPod touch with cameras for FaceTime.

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Because it is using the iPhone 4 form factor/case. Would be silly to call it an iPhone 5 when it is a souled up iPhone 4.

Your opinion. An iPhone 5 with an A5 chip running iOS 5 doesnt sound silly to me.

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That just proves only one new phone will be released the 4s. The 4 will be moved to replace the 3GS.

Speculation and no facts.
 
Arn, just throwing this out there...

Is there any way we can get an official poll on what is going to happen at Mac events, for example, all the different combinations of iphone 5 and 4s with and without redesign? It would be even cooler if members could have a record of their "% correct"

Awesome idea. Users prediction stats can be displayed under their pic in the left bar. The polls would have to be approved by MR to be counted as prediction polls, but that's no problem.

Miamialley
100%

:)
 
this and the new article on the front page scares me. as other people have said this "upgrade" given the 4S is a processor and camera for the most part isn't new. this was out when the iPhone 4 was out. now they can just fit it into the iPhone 4 chassis. apple isn't that dumb so there must be some awesome update for the 5 that they need more time and this was a backup. this update will not hold up competitors until either June or next Oct. I'm still holding on but when i see an N90A and an N94 model i see no 5. unless they have 3 models and aim the 4 at a really cheap market. after the 4 leak they might want to keep this under wraps. and in the iTunes beta was there an N90A model?
 
a gentlemen's wager is nothing to scoff at...

Aw c'mon, live a little! It just adds some flavor to a boring back and forth discussion where everyone spends their time wishing for what this thing will look like when none of us really knows for sure.

It's fun!

For what it's worth, I give you many kudos for offering to put something tangible on the line during this looooong discussion/debate, even if it's somewhat silly as simply disappearing from the boards for a couple of weeks if proven incorrect in your guessing. (And I also hope you'll remain humble too if proven to be correct in your guess?)

Over time I've noticed that too many people on these forums spend endless time going back-in-forth with their own speculations, adamant that theirs is the “correct” opinion and then, when shown to be incorrect once the facts are officially revealed, most often people tend to either a) try to backtrack on their previous statements in some manner, or b) just try to be quiet about it all and hope nobody calls them out for being provenincorrect. At least guch20 has the guts to publicly standby his opinion one way or the other, so even if you're not the “betting type” or think he's “going to far” suggestion a friendly bet at least give him some credit for putting it out there to hold himself publicly accountable for his predictions, whether he's proven right or wrong.

For that, either way the new iPhone announcement reveals itself to finally be come this Tuesday, IMO, guch20 is already a winner in my book. :cool:
 
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I don't get how this means ANYTHING. If they want to hide it in there... they can. Don't see why not. This is all insanely foolish. Maybe there won't be a redesign, but if there is - I can't wait to laugh at all the fools who think they KNOW ALL. What a joke.
 
Apple is a pretty smart company. No way they actually think people will let S*** like this slide. If a 4s is released with no 5. I am done with iPhones.
But what about:
iphone-5-leak-from-cincy-bell.jpg
 
it'll be good no matter what is announced...

this is my take on this whole iPhone 4s/5 matter
Apple may release the iPhone 4S as an entry level device that unifies the GSM and CDMA version (one device, dual mode, allowing both AT&T and Verizon to sell that device and reducing the confusion of having two different models, while at the same time, introduce an iPhone 5 as their new flagship model.

If this proves true, that would be a nice/suave thing to behold.



1) iPhone 4S is announced, and nothing else.. it will tarnish Apple for the short term.. but the phone will be current to most of its competitors, in that it offers 4G, better camera, and iPad 2 performance. Apple Fanboys (including myself) will be peeved.

2) they announce a 4S, that is a good $100-200 cheaper than the 5 they also announce.. Apple will completely own the smartphone market.. end of story...

Apple wins either way.. that's the sad part of it.. the competition sucks so much, that Apple doesn't need to really bother anymore. (as ironic a statement as any fanboy can make)

That seems potentially plausible to me as well.




All this outcry and we know damn well the next iPhone whatever name it has is going to sell out like crazy.

3GS still outsold like every Android phone with better specs this year in the U.S. and it still has the lower resolution of 480x320 and 3.5 inch screen.

You will complain whatever happens and you will still see many people camping out for the next one. Critic-proof. It is like Star Wars saga on Blu-ray. George changed some things again to piss fanboys off and it still shattered records in sales after one week.

Nailed it. No matter what Apple reveals on Tuesday the iPhone is just going to keep on pushing that Apple stock further up into... wait for for it... the cloud! :D




Three phones could very well happen. Apple currently has two models, the 4 and the cheap 3GS. What they don't have, though, is a super cheap phone for the prepaid market. So there could be an iPhone 5 replacing the 4, an iPhone 4S replacing the 3GS, and a new cheap unsubsidized phone for a prepay option.

Granted, all the evidence is currently pointing to just the iPhone 4S being announced this Tuesday, but if Apple were to do like you speculate I believe that strategy would satisfy almost 95% of the people out there who are looking to pick up an iPhone in some form before 2011 is over and, if so, then this would be a killer FTW masterstroke by :apple: to stymie their competition for the next 6 months hands down. We'll see though.
 
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But what doesn't make sense like you all are saying is that you would buy the "4s" for the voice integration regardless. But what doesn't make sense to me is that the voice command integration is a software feature, meaning you can download it because it will be in iOS 5, which means you can have it on the iPhone 4. Basically what I'm saying is no way they worked 16 months on the a5 chip(which they already had) a better camera, and more ram. No freaking way, it's IMPOSSIBLE. This is Apple people, expect "one more thing"...expect the unexpected...
 
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