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I agree, there will be many disappointed, but there could be many other reasons for the delayed release. iPhone 4S it is.

I just don't see it, I am a die hard loyalist when it comes to Apple but if the iPhone 4s is the only phone on Tuesday after a 16 month period then it will be the PR disaster of the decade, even I would find no way of defending Apple, I trust them too much to believe that they would **** up on such a grand scale
 
Good, that settles it. Only marginally improvements mean i can keep my iPhone 4 without feeling totally behind the curve and wait for iPhone 6 next year, when my contract's up for renewal anyway. :cool:
 
Apple doesn't like to complicate buyers.

It always keeps the options simple.

Yes, I want the iPhone 5, but this leak seals all the rumors.

iPhone 4 - 8GB - $99 - Black and White - AT&T and Verizon

iPhone 4S - 16GB and 32GB - $199/$299 - Black and White - AT&T, Verizon & Sprint

Simple. Adding a new iPhone 5 to that mix creates confusion. Apple doesn't work like that.

Would 4S and 5 really be that complicated considering it's currently 3GS and 4? Like come on...this news isn't particularly good if it's the only phone they'll be releasing, but it's not like having a 4S and 5 is "complicated." I think they'd just get rid of the 4 totally then.
 
The iPhone 4's has been rumoured for some time to be a low spec iPhone to sell to people who can't afford a regular iPhone4

Anyone who can afford a regular iPhone 4 gets an iPhone 4, this 4s is for those that can't afford a regular 4

Because of Apple's new iMessage feature, I think Apple is going to target Teenagers who's parents don't want to pay for an iPhone 4 (not the lower class people who can't afford an iPhone 4, the way your making it sound)
 
Apple doesn't like to complicate buyers.

It always keeps the options simple.

Yes, I want the iPhone 5, but this leak seals all the rumors.

iPhone 4 - 8GB - $99 - Black and White - AT&T and Verizon

iPhone 4S - 16GB and 32GB - $199/$299 - Black and White - AT&T, Verizon & Sprint

Simple. Adding a new iPhone 5 to that mix creates confusion. Apple doesn't work like that.

Then how exactly do you explain this...

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/2...leeves-already-arriving-at-att-retail-stores/
 
iPhone 5 will be revealed Tuesday...

Apple doesn't do anything without it being on purpose, in this case, I think, to keep the rumor mill off guard.

After the iPhone 4 prototype incident last year, I am sure that things are under tighter wraps this time around.

Sprint, Verizon and AT&T have all let it slip that they will be carrying the iPhone 5 (what? 4S? NO 5!) in October.

Just because they have a "1" on the iPhone event invite doesn't mean ANYTHING! Except to keep people confused/guessing in the rumor mill.

iPhone 5 will be revealed Tuesday. (period). Sure, maybe they will also have an upgraded iPhone 4, it's been a long time since they've come out with new hardware, it would make sense to have two new phones at this time, AND all new iPhones will be all-in-one...use on whatever network, older iPhones will be discontinued. That, I think, is the big new thing.
 
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There's no way....If it was just a 4S- Apple would've shipped this since June.

That's what I am thinking. If it's the same form factor, they already had access to the rest of the parts. Why delay 3 months to add an 8MP camera and the A5 chip that was already ready for the iPad 2 6 months ago. Even if they had to tweak the chip for power consumption or something, there's no way it should've delayed the phone. Just hoping they didn't delay for this voice stuff for some reason.
 
iPhone 4S is being introduced to have a universal iPhone 4. One model for all the carriers, which will simplify the supply chain. The only difference will be the cellular chip, same as the one in the Verizon phone, has all frequencies and protocals (GMS/CDMA) enabled.

iPhone 5 will be the new king with the A5, 8 MP camera, etc.

Lets recap:

iPhone 4S = Universal iPhone 4
iPhone 5 = Apple Love

This is our only hope left. That is - Apple sees huge benefits of scale when creating as few models as possible. So they were willing to slightly modify the 4 to make it universal and get different models down. In the process they drop the capacity to 8gb and maybe add A5 and 8MP cam. Then they release the 5 at 16gb and 32gb capacity points. Similar to last year, but they saw enough benefit to tweak the 4 to make it universal. Let's just hope it's true.

LINEUP 1 (all universals): 6 models
iPhone 4S 8gb - black and white
iPhone 5 16gb - black and white
iPHone 5 32 gb - black and white

LINEUP 2 (no universals): 15 models
iPhone 4 8gb black - verizon, att, and sprint
iPhone 5 16gb - verizon, att, and spring - black and white
iPhone 5 32gb - verizon, att, and sprint - black and white

Yes, I made certain assumptions about no phones being able to swap networks. It's just an assumption.

We will know soon if consolidation matters enough to them or if the big evolution this year was the software...
 
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i hope this to be true :p. i love the form factor of the 4 and with new in-ards etc and camera i'll be buying this. 7-8 months then they can release the changed form factor next june hehe :p

and as for the people that won't buy it. there are plenty of people without an iphone now that will buy to round off the numbers or people upgrading from 3gs etc. it will be an awesome more phone than the 4 is. a5, 8mp cam, ios5, new graphics chip and 1gig ram hopefully, you never know they could extend the screen nearer to the edges bringing it to 3.7 inches but i will be happy with 3.5.

but don't worry, give it a year or 2 and phones will have 7 inch screens. oh wait, thats a tablet lol
 
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So this was found in the latest itunes BETA. And this means there will be no iphone 5 how? Its a BETA ffs.
 
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If this is all i see Tim Cooks first keynote bein without any clapping and cheering lol i can already see the headlines in the news.

i cant recall any other phone company releasing the same phone twice let alone after 1,5 years
 
The iPhone 4's has been rumoured for some time to be a low spec iPhone to sell to people who can't afford a regular iPhone4

Anyone who can afford a regular iPhone 4 gets an iPhone 4, this 4s is for those that can't afford a regular 4


(Edit: Was prepping dinner, so totally misread this guy's response before I posted mine...) What in the world are you talking about? Now you totally lost me
 
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The 4S is a combination world phone for worldwide markets both CDMA & GSM, it's the lower tier handset that will serve the sector of the current 3GS. The iPhone 5 will also be released on Tuesday as the successor to the iPhone 4. Anyone who thinks all they are releasing is the 4S is living in a dreamworld.

Simples. The end.
 
Guys, I'm happy. Even if they bring me a 4S. The 3GS was such a big success because it was an evolution, not a revolution. You don't always have to reinvent something to have it great.

My only desire now is NFC. But that's probably not going to happen. :eek:
 
Could it be iPhone get redesigned every 2 years so IP4 -IP4S IP5-IP5S, Walking in to an apple shop to ask for an iPhone and the sales rep says 4 or 5 seems odd at least with 4 or 4s ut does not let the buyer think they are buying something to old or outdated. I just feel there is know 5, no leaks just speculation via cases seems strange.
 
They lied! :)

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I never bet, but if I'm wrong, I will fully admit it on MacRumors. If you're wrong you'll do the same? Deal?
Deal.

One detail though: what if Apple call a drastically redesigned next-gen iPhone iPhone 4S? Who wins then?
 
Let's Remember guys, Assistant, dual-core chip, eight megapixel camera are still major and compelling additions. The lack of a new design doesn't bother me that much. The current design is one of the best to come out of Apple.
 
I am 100% positive that on oct. 4 there will be an iPhone 5. this is my reasoning:

If apple took 16 months to only up the camera and processor, etc. and keeps the same design. obviously there would be a lot of disappointed people and bad press,

sooo if Apple did do that they would still market their phone as the "iPhone 5" if they marketed it as the iPhone 4s it sounds like less of a significant upgrade. so more bad press.



Now we have proof that a phone called an "iPhone 4s" exists. that means that it will not be the only new iPhone being shown on tuesday!!!
 
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