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Find your phone? Where the heck are you keeping your phone that it is harder to find than your wallet?
I carry mine in my computer/lunch bag, it's almost never on my person. I get/make a call a week or less so there's no point.
 
For me Apple Pay will come into its own when it can do high value purchases. I keep my phone in a wallet so it's no easier than getting a card out my wallet so for £20/£30 purchases it will still be contact less for me

Using the watch would be good but they are such a neiche product its it really the typical use case
 
Now it's here, I can tell those missing out it's not that exciting. And getting your phone out, double clicking home button, picking the right card, waiting for the print reader -- it's not much quicker than getting your wallet out and holding up the right card.

Well, unless one has an Apple Watch....much easier ;)
 
Is this sarcastic? And if not Apple Watch solves all of these gripes
Why is it sarcastic?
Pull out your wallet, hold it near reader. Done. Heck if it’s the only card in there you don’t even have to open it.
Good job those contactless cards come with a free Apple Watch Edition, no reason not to get one then is there?

It’s all about the compromises and choices you are willing to make. There some advantages to plastic you know.
 
How do you get on when you have to spend more than £20 or the retailer doesn't have a contactless terminal?

I can't see myself leaving the wallet at home any time soon, I still use cash in a lot of places and often spend over £20 while out shopping.
LOL, this is what I’ve been wondering with these people. Also, the best one - what happens when the shop you are at doesn’t take Apple pay but is significantly cheaper.
Do they pull out their wallets or stick to their guns and go where they can use the phone?
I know which I’d do, just wondering how long the, ‘I’ll boycott them if they don’t accept ApplePay’ brigade would last before they gave in.
 
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My bank Lloyds still isn't supporting Apple Pay so I just went to www.natwest.co.uk and opened an account online, took about 5 minutes, then a few days later I got a card in the mail. Then I just transfer £50 across from my Lloyds every now and then.

I probably will keep my Lloyds account in the long run, but it is a risky situation for them, as now I've got two accounts and I could easily switch everything to NatWest now on a whim. I suppose I'm worried that Lloyds might be dragging their feet on future technologies as well, its not like they've even mentioned why they are going to be so late to this party.

Do they not think its worth putting much effort into it? Or do they think there is some security concerns or reasons to be cautious, or do they just lack the technological skills to get the implementation done on time, or do they have a messy management structure where they can't get a decision made quickly, etc.. etc..

Anyway, if someone else is bored of waiting, I 100% recommend opening a free
NatWest account, they have a nice and easy ID verification system on the website, so you just upload a photo of your passport or driving license and everything else is taken care of, I didn't even need to visit a branch.


Lloyds is less of a rampant black stallion, it's more a loved but rather tired old nag.
 
£20 limit is pretty useless when shopping for food, diesel or electrical goods. £200 limit much more useful. No limit more useful again, but in the UK highly unlikely to be achieved.
 
The government should play hardball with them.

Either upgrade your sales terminals or face a fine for each month the equipment is lacking. Give them a tax break and a discount for upgrading their equipment. I think those new, large screen Verifone readers are $900 - give the businesses a $100 discount, a tax free payment, and a $800 tax credit.

A lot of the small businesses are using dial up for their transactions, still. They've had many years to upgrade to readers that are modern. It is the owner's problem if they don't want to cover the investment of a new POS system. Part of having a business is operating costs.

The government shouldn't need to do anything since the liability shift should eventually sort everything out.

Or we find out that the banks were shouldering a ton of fraud after all and the number of small businesses that end up going under as a result of the liability shift causes a recession. Resulting in Visa/MC having to cancel said shift or the government banning such a shift. I'd say that's unlikely though. :p
 
Ugh...come on Barclays. Stop dragging your feet. This is a thing whether you like it or not.
 
£20 limit is pretty useless when shopping for food, diesel or electrical goods. £200 limit much more useful. No limit more useful again, but in the UK highly unlikely to be achieved.

But as I understand it, it's just a software update on the terminals thats required to tell it thats its an Apple Pay fingerprint verified payment, then the limit can be lifted and the payment treated just like a chip & PIN.

I think there's a list somewhere on this site (in a forum) of shops that have already done that.
 
What do these numbers mean, apart from Australia has a low population? Surely it's the per retailer that matters? If a country has only one shop, and every single customer goes there, and it has an NFC terminal, then it may have a very low per capita figure, but everybody can use it.
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

The UK contactless market is bigger, that's all I'm saying. That drives decision making.
 
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

The UK contactless market is bigger, that's all I'm saying. That drives decision making.

I think one of the reasons for one country a year is the length of time it takes and the complexity of negotiating contracts with the majority of that countries large financial institutions.
 
“The Big Four” supermarkets are Tesco, Asda, Sainsbury’s and Morrisons

And out f those only Morrisons accepts contactless. Tesco has been conducting a year long 'trial' in its London stores with contactless but has no plans to roll out further.

Most of Asdas terminals are capable of taking contactless payments as are Sainsburys.

So frustrated they won't roll contactless out. Especially for express stores and self service checkouts where payments are likely to be less than £20 (or £30 from Sept). I continually hassle them on Twitter and suggest others do the same.
 
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Most of Asdas terminals are capable of taking contactless payments as are Sainsburys.

So frustrated they won't roll contactless out. Especially for express stores and self service checkouts where payments are likely to be less than £20 (or £30 from Sept). I continually hassle them on Twitter and suggest others do the same.

My local Asda accepts contactless on the self service checkouts, Apple Pay works as well as long as you stay below £20, makes up for the constant unexpected item in packing area announcements
 
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Is this sarcastic? And if not Apple Watch solves all of these gripes

So lets get this straight.. The watch does this without the phone? A card that takes 2 seconds to read and you don't need to take it out of it's wallet. But I can see where you are coming from to justify your expenditure.
 
I've tried at a number of retailers, some of which explicitly accept Apple Pay, and have yet to have a successful transaction.

Even if it hadn't been a total fail, getting my phone out and authorising with a thumb print is less convenient than getting the actual cards out.

Although I do quite like the notifications that I get when I spend on my cards not using Apple Pay.

As someone else suggested, it sounds like perhaps there is an issue/fault with your phone. I added my Nationwide debit card and have used it successfully at every attempt and I use it multiple times daily. I go to Pret and M&S each morning, Coop each evening plus I've used it at a bunch of other stores with contactless ((official retailers and other) and the only slight issue I had with the phone is once or twice (out of about prob 20-30 transactions to date) it said I wasn't close enough to the reader so it too and extra sec or two to approve.

TBH the best Apple Pay experience is with the Apple Watch. I caved and got one on Saturday and I just love it for Apple Pay. You literally just quickly double tap the bottom button (don't need to be touching the reader or anywhere near it at this point) and then you just literally touch it near the reader when ready and you get a little 'ding' noise when its done which is like almost instant, even faster than with the iPhone/finger print approval. I used it again tonight at the Coop and the women on the checkout loved it. It really is quite amazing that I can just pay with a simple wave of my watch.

Will it be easier for some people to just pull out their card? Quite possibly, especially if your the type that keeps your phone buried in your handbag or rucksack, but if like me your always on your phone or its in my pocket, its way quicker.
 
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And out f those only Morrisons accepts contactless. Tesco has been conducting a year long 'trial' in its London stores with contactless but has no plans to roll out further.

Most of Asdas terminals are capable of taking contactless payments as are Sainsburys.

So frustrated they won't roll contactless out. Especially for express stores and self service checkouts where payments are likely to be less than £20 (or £30 from Sept). I continually hassle them on Twitter and suggest others do the same.
I wonder if Tesco's plans to not roll them out (if that is indeed definitely the case) down to their shoddy implementation of it. My Tesco's local has it on the self checkout and its annoying because they have separated out the payment options such as cash, debit/credit cards etc and contactless is a separate button to debit and credit cards and easily missed, so much so I was ranting and raving at the checkout yesterday attempting to use it (my actual card on this occasion not Apple Pay).

What we really need is Apple to get one of the big supermarkets on board as an official partner, that would help push the others to step up.
 
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