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Speed is really a small part of Apple Pay; it's more about security of accounts.



Not sure where you live, but not where I live. Can't say I've ever gotten mugged, not even in Chicago's Loop.

I worked in Detroit for years and never got mugged. I did once in a western suburb of Detroit a long time ago though. Got out of my car in broad daylight to walk into a restaurant and a van pulled up to block off the view of the restaurant entrance and held me up at gunpoint. Many, many people around. Just brazen.
 
I went out to a McDonalds today at lunch an hour before this guy. I didn't record the experience but mine went much smoother than his even. I did not have the Phone awake or the app on. As I moved the phone closer to the NFC, I had my thumb already on the button so it scanned, opened the app and gave me the verification check instantly without having to do anything else.

After that I decided to try Petco across the street but I had a less positive experience. When I trie to pay for my dogwood there, as I approached the NFC terminal, my phone vibrated and I got the verification check but the cashier said nothing went through. I tried again and got the same thing. Then she said that their NFC terminal hasn't worked in years. Obviously there was a hardware handshake but their POS software must need an update for Apple Pay and probably any other NFC payment system.

But it's interesting (and a little scary) how I got a confirmation twice even though no purchase ever went through. What's preventing them from lying to me and telling me to run it again? I can only see the receipt if I look in my info box in Passbook. Otherwise, I'm at the mercy of the cashier who could be lying.

Any thoughts?

I don't really have an answer for the confirmation, but just to be clear, you say that unlocking the phone and going to passbook is not necessary? Just place the phone by the terminal?
 
Ideal solution for people disappointed with the new Mac Mini… buy a Big Mac instead.

I know they've already had double and triple-layered ones... but this is probably our only chance at getting a quad. :cool:
 
That one they showed in the September iPhone special event. A woman is checking out of a department store and fishes out her wallet, goes through a bunch of steps to get her credit card transaction authorized, etc. versus using the phone.

Have you ever seen a woman try to find her phone in her pocketbook? Yikes
 
I don't really have an answer for the confirmation, but just to be clear, you say that unlocking the phone and going to passbook is not necessary? Just place the phone by the terminal?

The phone KNOWS you are near a terminal, even when locked, and will allow you to pay without doing anything but touching your finger on the Touch ID.

This is how the iPhone works in many instances - my Walgreens card comes up when I'm in a walgreens without me doing anything.
 
When I scan my Discover or US Bank Visa Apple Pay responds stating these cards are not supported. Nice :mad:


In time I think they will. I was disappointed that my Comerica debit card wasn't accepted but all my credit cards except Discover were. Still would like the debit card (Cash) option though.
 
Yea...Apple Pay is sooooooo much FASTER and EASIER to use then removing that credit card from your wallet, swiping, and inserting back into wallet. That was sarcasm if you didn't catch that.

Wait until most terminals are switched to chip n' pin in the next year or two. There will be no more swiping and no pin.
 
Yea...Apple Pay is sooooooo much FASTER and EASIER to use then removing that credit card from your wallet, swiping, and inserting back into wallet. That was sarcasm if you didn't catch that.

For most purchases in the USA that are under $25 (which would very likely be Mcdonalds for 2 or less people on 1 order), there is NO SIGNATURE for credit card transactions.

But even the signature process would take 3-5 seconds on the POS units. Paper might take a whopping 7 seconds to print and sign.

Wow, what an optimist.

See what I did there.... sarcasm?
 
Anybody else have any issues with transactions declining?

Added both my Chase Southwest Rapid Rewards Visa and my Costco Amex. Went to the Pepsi machine here at work that takes NFC to try it out. Tried on the Visa and it declined my transaction. Tried with the Amex and the transaction went through. Under the transactions on my Visa it shows the vendor name and the price and just says declined, no other explanation. Amex shows the transaction just like a normal CC transaction.
 
Do you guys not have tap-to-pay over there? I have my iphone in a wallet case, and credit card in the slot of the wallet. To pay for a McDonald's, or groceries or whatever, I just take my wallet out of my pocket, touch the corner of it on the machine, and put it back in my pocket. Total two seconds. This looked like a complete farce.

In the US do you still have to put your card in the machine and type a PIN?

Tap-to-pay isn't that common here, but it's slowly rolling out. We are just getting started with PIN now, and it won't be "mandatory" until October 2015 (i.e. that's when liability for fraud using magnetic strips shifts from the bank to the retailer). And most card issuers are actually going to go to chip-and-signature rather than chip-and-PIN (Wells Fargo will use chip-and-PIN but Citi is using chip-and-signature).
 
Generally your card is in a wallet, where a phone is not.

Most already have a phone either in their hand or on their side. Sometimes I keep my card in my shirt pocket for quick and easy access. It falls out from time to time. Cards magnetic strips also wear out over so many uses. Atleast I don't have to put a plastic bag over my phone to make it work when it's worn. Oh, and no touching that nasty terminal.
 
I just used it for the first time at Walgreens to pick up a Rx and it worked great. I can't wait for even more retailers to get onboard. With the October 2015 liability shift coming, I'm sure that many will.
 
Yes. Kinda like pulling your wallet out. Taking out a credit card. Handing it to the cashier. He/She then swipes it and waits. You then punch in your PIN or grab the stylist and sign it. Then you put it back in your wallet.

Or. Open the app and touch the Touch ID and stand for a few seconds.

incorrect. you do *not* need to open the app or even unlock your phone. you can keep it in sleep, put it up there and put your finger on the sensor, it reads and vibrates to confirm.
 
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