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TechnoMonk

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Oct 15, 2022
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I Hope Apple Pencil pro is more reliable than apple pencil 2. I had to replace couple under apple care, and just bought a cheap one off amazon when I don’t need pressure sensitive stuff.
 

mistymac

macrumors newbie
Jul 20, 2022
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I think they use a different charging mechanism. Because of the new front facing camera position...
You are probably right, it's still a really stupid and rude choice on their part. Did we really need the camera swapped that badly to force everyone who wants the new pencil to have to spend $1k+ to get it? No, but the shareholders certainly foamed at the mouth over that idea.
 
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Rogifan

macrumors Penryn
Nov 14, 2011
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So the Pencil Pro isn’t compatible with previous iPads so now they’re selling 4 different Pencil models. Ridiculous.
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Jay-Jacob

macrumors 6502a
Sep 10, 2015
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England
Another question is: Does all Apple Pencil Pro features also work on iPad Air or not? Cannot find info. Like for example Apple Pencil 2nd Generation only hover works on Pro but not on Air.
Answer my own question: Right at bottom it says:
  1. Apple Pencil hover works with iPad Pro 13‑inch (M4), iPad Pro 12.9‑inch (6th generation), iPad Pro 11‑inch (M4), iPad Pro 11‑inch (4th generation), iPad Air 13‑inch (M2) and iPad Air 11‑inch (M2).
Seems now Air do have hover (which I think did mention at event) but doesn't say all other new like squeeze, barrel roll also on Air too???
 

macphoto861

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May 20, 2021
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So existing iPad Pro/Air users who already have a Pencil 2 will need to get a NEW pencil if they want to upgrade to the latest Pro. Do I have that right?
I believe that is correct... Tech Specs page says USB-C and Pro are the only ones compatible with the new iPad Pro.
 

uecker87

macrumors 6502
Oct 9, 2014
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Madison, WI
Seems pretty crappy that the Apple Pencil Gen 2 doesn't work with the new iPad Pros. I already have one of those from using on a past iPad. Seems like a pure money grab.
 

cocky jeremy

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Jul 12, 2008
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Lol absolutely laughable they’re splitting the pencil product line. No end to their idiocy and greed.

Pencil Pro 😂 what the hell.

Then artificially lock it to use on the new iPads only. On top of the not reducing the price of the 2nd gen pencil. Poor business ethics.
It's just business. The entire purpose of a business is to make as much money as possible. They aren't a charity.
 

NEPOBABY

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Jan 10, 2023
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Why is this Pencil Pro working on the M2 Air and is not working on the M2 Pro? Its absurd.

Having 4 different Pencil models is also a convolluted mess.

This discussion doesn’t look serious or experienced artists if they haven’t noticed that companies like Wacom have a dozen stylus and pencils and they are not cross compatible with every tablet. Never was.

It is standard across the tablet and stylus space.
 

mert1

macrumors newbie
Mar 18, 2022
2
1
So the new iPads don't support the 2nd gen pencil but you can use the USB-C one without wireless charging. If you happen to have the 2nd gen Pencil and look to get a new iPad Air or Pro, you either have to get a new USB-C Apple Pencil which is a downgrade, or pay up for the Pencil Pro. What a mess.
 

ZeroInspo

macrumors newbie
Oct 7, 2022
9
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So existing iPad Pro/Air users who already have a Pencil 2 will need to get a NEW pencil if they want to upgrade to the latest Pro. Do I have that right?
Yes, it's one of the ********* moves I've ever seen from this company and they do a lot of **** moves. It actually put me off from upgrading at all, I'm keeping my 6 year old Pro until the day it dies.
 

nicetriangles

macrumors regular
Apr 25, 2021
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Seattle / Amsterdam
Only works with m2 and later pros. That's a shame. This was the only thing that really got me excited about the presentation today but I'm not upgrading from my perfectly functional M1 model to get it. Oh well.
 

TechRemarker

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Jun 17, 2009
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Glad they finally figured out somehow after all these years how to get it on the camera on landscape side while still having the magnetic charging on the landscape size, which was alway the challenge and why the camera was so often put on the odd portrait side.
 
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bodonnell202

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Jan 5, 2016
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Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Apple Pencil Pro is the same price as Apple Pencil (2nd generatio) but doesn’t work with previous iPads. 😱​

I suspect it doesn't work with previous iPads due to charging, as Apple had to come up with a method to include the Landscape camera and magnetic wireless charging which necessitated a new Apple Pencil.
 

Jay-Jacob

macrumors 6502a
Sep 10, 2015
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England
Answer my own question: Right at bottom it says:
  1. Apple Pencil hover works with iPad Pro 13‑inch (M4), iPad Pro 12.9‑inch (6th generation), iPad Pro 11‑inch (M4), iPad Pro 11‑inch (4th generation), iPad Air 13‑inch (M2) and iPad Air 11‑inch (M2).
Seems now Air do have hover (which I think did mention at event) but doesn't say all other new like squeeze, barrel roll also on Air too???
Searching on Apple website etc. Found answer to my question. If use compare iPad Pro 11 inch vs iPad Air 11 inch on Apple and it says both iPad support all feature of Apple Pencil Pro.

Wireless pairing and charging
Attaches magnetically
Pixel-perfect precision
Low latency
Tilt sensitivity
Pressure sensitivity
Double-tap to change tools
Squeeze
Barrel roll
Haptic feedback
Find My support
Free engraving
 

GUNSTAR1

macrumors member
Jan 23, 2024
36
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Seattle, WA
Whelp, it'll be 4 of 5 years until I update my M2 iPad Pro. by then i'm sure theres gonna be a pencil pro ultra... this whole lineup is getting messier and messier.

I thought Apple was trying to be a 'green company'? why no backwards compatibility - i have to buy a new iPad (wasting more materials) to use a new pencil.
 
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