You still can. I pay $7/month for my own webhosting, unless I'm hallucinating.Besides I think that feeding this monopoly isn't good. I cherish the time when we actually had CHOICES, when everyone hosted their contents in their own servers.
You still can. I pay $7/month for my own webhosting, unless I'm hallucinating.Besides I think that feeding this monopoly isn't good. I cherish the time when we actually had CHOICES, when everyone hosted their contents in their own servers.
Brilliant. Excellent point. And the left will go after Christianity. The left hates Christians.Don’t celebrate just yet. I am not arguing that Apple does or does not have the right to do this, they are a private company that can do what they want.
HOWEVER. Ask yourself what happens when it isn’t the Alex Jones App they are removing but for example a Catholic Church App because they don’t believe women can hold the same positions as men or because of all the child molestation. Maybe they remove Facebook, Instagram snapchat apps because they have many offensive and hateful things in them.
You might be thinking “that would never happen” but we are one moral shift from exactly that happening.
Would you be celebrating then?
Brilliant. Excellent point. And the left will go after Christianity. The left hates Christians.
We have safe guards in place to prevent another Hitler and deal with nazi sympathizers. But thanks for playing Sport.
Brilliant. Excellent point. And the left will go after Christianity. The left hates Christians.
Hm... but conservatitives do the same with anthem kneeling. We’re told it is so reprehensible as speech or expression that it need be prohibited and not allowed. Punished. If not by law, by social justice. Character assination. Loss of employment. Business boycotting.Ahhh yes, "hate speech", the subjective term all authoritarians use to justify the suppression of ideas they don't agree with.
US has practically no safeguards preventing the actions of Neo Nazi’s or Nazi sympathizers. One can make strong argument that president Trump has made statements which fail to condemn Neo Nazi movement. Even more so, Neo Nazi’s and radical right wing find Trumps message empowering which in itself is alarming.
If you're wondering how Alex Jones is dealing with his bans:
https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1037978557555900416
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Watch the video. That's definitely how a normal person deals with things.
A slippery slope?? I dunno man... I mean, I guess it’s healthy to be wary of these things.Start going down this road it's not gonna be pretty. If that is now the standard to get deplatformed a lot of people are in for some trouble if you are to believe the tech companies claims of being non-partisan.
To summarize this threads key points:
1) Understanding civics is not a strong point on this or other web sites. Since Twitter and Apple are private companies, their restricting Alex Jones' speech on their platforms doesn't have anything to do with Jones' 1st Amendment Constitutional right to free speech.
2) Most people are hypocrites and if someone they support was banned, they would howl. Most people think Alex Jones is a lunatic so they don't care.
3) Everybody knows that there is a bias against right wing, or even conservatives who say controversial things on social media and left wing comedians, etc., who harass or use hate speech are generally ignored. Kudos to Twitter CEO for at least being willing to admit it publicly. This bias is because the people who run and work at these companies are overwhelmingly left leaning, again as Jack concedes. If the situation was reversed, the banning bias would be in the other direction.
4) Major tech companies, such as Twitter, Facebook, Google and Apple grew up in an atmosphere where they were protected as platforms that allowed unrestricted speech with very few limitations that were fairly universally agreed upon such as threats of violence, etc. but now that they have achieved oligopoly status their impact on determining what people can see and heard is a concern.
A future in which they control all on line discussion and "de facto" determine what thoughts can be expressed is not hyperbole and not far. Since they are private entities (see #1 above), their ability favor/censor political candidates, religious and social viewpoints, limit what news we see, etc., has grown to a level of control that was previously unimagined except in totalitarian countries like North Korea, and they will soon have a chokehold that should alarm everyone, regardless of your politics.
InfoWars business model is to sell goods. It's like a QVC for the paranoid. I do not agree with any of its messages, however nobody should be silenced. We enjoy free speech in this country, and we should hold on to that, even if the message irritates us. What is needed instead is a better education system. The amount of misinformation and lack of rational thinking is staggering in this country.
You talk about education, but forget or don't understand that this isn't a free speech issue.
So you want Democrats and their racist identity politics banned from the Internet? The American left has gone fully and completely insane. I used to wonder how authoritarian dictatorships could happen. Now I know.
It kind of is. He’s voice was removed from several platforms.
Let’s not go in circle again.
Except it's not. You don't have any right to publish any app you want in Apple's App store.It kind of is. He’s voice was removed from several platforms.
Let’s not go in circle again.
Except it's not. You don't have any right to publish any app you want in Apple's App store.
Maybe you fail to understand why this isn't a free speech issue. 768 posts and no one has explained this to you yet?
His free speech wasn’t taken away in this country, but it was taken away on the multiple platforms.
That guy has no right to publish in Apple's App store or on Twitter's platform.
Do you have the right to go to a department store and say whatever you want? No. They'd kick you immediately out. But but they stopping your speech?!?
You haven’t answered my question. Your insults and personal atacks are childish. One more time.
What was taken away from Jones in multiple platforms??
What was taken away from Jones on multiple platforms??
I’m an anti-theist, I don’t follow Jones, and you’re deflecting being called on an unambiguously dishonest, slimy statement of sophistry.
Not even going to bother any further with someone so lacking in principle, let alone someone using theological concepts of “evil” to bolster their hollow argument supporting authoritarian means.