When hating some one politically we are then talkin about political standpoints. You think one should accept nazi sympathisers? Turn other cheek? Worked great for Jews... or maybe you learn something about history and make sure that those who want to destroy the ideals of democracy will never succeed.
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When hating some one politically we are then talkin about political standpoints. You think one should accept nazi sympathisers? Turn other cheek? Worked great for Jews... or maybe you learn something about history and make sure that those who want to destroy the ideals of democracy will never succeed.
And the members decided. Alex=out.
[doublepost=1536473134][/doublepost]No private company is under any obligation to host anyone they don’t agree with. Apple isn’t a democratic government.
I’m an anti-theist, I don’t follow Jones, and you’re deflecting being called on an unambiguously dishonest, slimy statement of sophistry.
Not even going to bother any further with someone so lacking in principle, let alone someone using theological concepts of “evil” to bolster their hollow argument supporting authoritarian means.
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Ahhh yes, Twitter is sacrosanct, people always base public policy on s**tposting. I can’t believe this needs explaining to any thinking person.
Apple did decide for itself. They decided they didn't want to sponsor it. People can sideload his app if that's what they want to do.
The issue isn't that the President is making policy via twitter posts but that isn't something a President should even be posting.
I'm just glad I live in America. If you tried to pull off what AJ has done in any other country you'd be in jail, or executed right now. Instead all that happens is he gets pulled from tech giant platforms. Could you imagine setting AJ loose in Beijing, Moscow, or Istanbul? Yea, be glad to be an American...
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means............
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noun
- a body of book publishers, news media, etc., not controlled or restricted by government censorship in political or ideological matters.
You're right you know. Not naming places but saying the wrong thing could get you in very serious trouble in other countries round the world. Trumps America is a bloody mess in some ways but at least you have freedom to speak and think.
Exactly! We are allowed free speech, however, People seem to forget the miranda statement: “Anything you say may be used against you in a court of law.”
Also cf. The paradox of tolerance was described by Karl Popper in 1945. The paradox states that if a society is tolerant without limit, their ability to be tolerant will eventually be seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Popper came to the seemingly paradoxical conclusion that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.
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When liberals behave like fascists it's not fascism. These "liberal" people are self worshipers, they think they are god and when they do the same they accuse others for it's ok, because they are special. So you have the least intelligent, least educated crowd of people supporting an agenda created by a few elite people to control the world.
The globalists have done well, they have managed to make an entire generation complete idiots. Including (you).
The globalists have done well, they have managed to make an entire generation complete idiots. Including (you).
I've paid a visits several times to both and have had extended conversations with citizens there. You are talking about countries with an entire population less than Los Angeles or New York City. The "literal" dirty secret of Norways prosperity is petroleum money, which even the piece you linked references, and that gives them the high standard of living and also papers over all of the generous social policies and programs. But the facade is cracking on that due to lack of assimilation of non-indigenous groups. The difference quality of life in Oslo in the last 10 years is mind boggling. As far as Sweden? The outcome of the recent election in Sweden tells you all one needs to know.
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So then, the society collapses into itself for being unable to tolerate their own intolerance. Or else authoritarianism, not libertarianism, wins.
This censorship is far more troubling than any of the nonsense coming out of Infowars.
As for the "hate speech" argument, it seems to be used by liberals to include anything which goes contrary to their agenda. It's simply fascism cloaked in virtue signalling.
As for the "hate speech" argument, it seems to be used by liberals to include anything which goes contrary to their agenda. It's simply fascism cloaked in virtue signalling.
If removing AJ's drivel is seen as a form of political censorship, where can I enlist you guys to fight for pr0n being posted openly on FaceBook?
Small hint, if you want to ordinary people to believe in "conservative voices being drowned" don't use 100% nutjobs as examples.
Small hint, if you want to ordinary people to believe in "conservative voices being drowned" don't use 100% nutjobs as examples.
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So when a Christian cake baker refuses to bake a cake with a slogan the baker disagrees with, you support the baker? I assume so based on your above logic.
Are you playing this in your head that it's about freedom of speech, which it's not, or is you're argument about my comment stating "obligated to treat anyone as equal to another" which in reality is about how a corporation deals with those that break their TOS? Cause neither of which apply in regards to the situation about a Christian baker refusing service to a gay couple.
I’ve lived in three Nordic countries during my life and I have to say that you are far from being correct. First of all, only Norway has oil money. However, every single one of them have extremely high standard of living and almost exactly the same social policies. There is no “facede cracking” what so ever. Difference in quality of life in Oslo in last 10 years?!? Are you joking me? Even more so if you check capitals of world based on quality of living it’s littered with Nordic capitals. Oslo, Stockholm, Copenhagen and Helsinki are all there. I would argue that the Nordic countries are actually almost as safe as they ever where even in situation in which many countries are troubled by internal and external threats. Regarding the far right in Nordics, sure it’s there but they can be described more less pathetic. Actually, in some Nordic countries their popularity has taken nose dive. Even more so, legal action has been taken against far right / neo nazi groups and they have been banned.
Which "recent" election gave the outcome you are talking about? The one four years ago, or the one where the counting of the votes has not even started yet?
It's a slippery slope and worth debating. There will always be different points of view and interpretations of what is right, moral, protected, free speech, censorship, etc.
One could say that banning Alex Jones is an infringement of the 1st Amendment, and then say banning an App that glorifies Nazism is OK. Some will decide where the moral line should be drawn in the sand, and others feels that no line should ever be drawn.
You could apply that philosophy to many things. For example, I could say that restricting abortion is limiting the constitutionally protected rights of woman. You could say that restricting a certain firearm is limiting the constitutionally protected 2nd Amendment. We could argue any form of restriction on anything is an attack on our freedoms.
We could take it further and ask why have the rule of law? Who has the right to tell me I have to use my turn signal when making a left turn? I mean it's endless.
I personally feel some boundaries of accepted behavior and rule of law should be drawn. If Apple decides to ban Alex Jones it does not mean Alex Jones can no longer spew his hate or fear mongering. It's just not going to happen on Apple's Platform.
What censorship?
Please enlighten me to who is being censored. It isn't AJ. He broke the rules, he got kicked off a private platform.
Complete difference.