"Confusing" as in product differences that would take a few minutes to figure out and offer consumers more choice? This forum really can't be satisfied.
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Apple Planning Both 10.2-Inch 'iPad 7' and All-New 10.5-Inch iPad According to Proven Leaker
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The whole iPad ecosystem is saterated with to many products and now appreently screen sizes customers don’t know which one is what
And we need the products to get awesome again. The new iPad maybe awesome but what’s the benefit of using the iPad pros at nearly MacBook Pro prices when they all use a phone iOS with very limited capabilities?
- 9.7-inch iPad: starts at $329 with 32GB, A10, Lightning, 1st generation Apple Pencil, Touch ID
- 7.9-inch iPad mini 4: starts at $399 with 128GB, A8, Lightning, does not support Apple Pencil, Touch ID
- 10.5-inch iPad Pro: starts at $649 with 64GB, A10X, Lightning, 1st generation Apple Pencil, Touch ID
- 11-inch iPad Pro: starts at $799 with 64GB, A12X, USB-C, 2nd generation Apple Pencil, Face ID
- 12.9-inch iPad Pro: starts at $999 with 64GB, A12X USB-C, 2nd generation Apple Pencil, Face ID
- 7.9-inch iPad mini: starts at $329 with 64GB, A10X, Lighting, 2nd generation Apple Pencil, Touch ID
- 10.5-inch iPad: starts at $399 with 64GB, A10X, Lightning, 2nd generation Apple Pencil, Touch ID
- 11-inch iPad Pro: $100 price cut to $699 with 64GB
- 12-9-inch iPad Pro: $100 price cut to $899 with 64GB
Adding even more confusement to the already confusing lineup
Focus Timmy, focus!
There are 2 regular iPad, mini and regular, 1 pro with Touch ID, and 2 Pro with Face ID, mini and regular. How is that complicated? 90% of users probably know if they want regular or pro by budget alone, so you really only need to pick one of two screen sizes, period.
Timmy: The New Scully
I had to read your comment twice to understand
Hey macrumors, you could do a new giveaway: win Apples upcoming 9.7, 10.2, 10.5 iPad as 3rd, 2nd, 1st price
I guess choice is a good thing but this is getting ridiculous. As many many have pointed out, this lineup needs to be pared down. I miss the days when it was just......iPad. Just one.
Wut.
Diluting the lineup even further?
I think it's unfair to say Tim Cook needs to run the company like Steve, but I think there is something to be said about what Steve did with the lineup when he came back:
Those are just four brands. There were always multiple models within each of the brands. I don't see the problem with offering multiple-size iPads under the iPad brand. Especially if size is the main differentiator. Confusion doesn't happen when you have progressive feature set graduations, like good/better/best or small/medium large.
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Are you confused? You, personally?
You’re saying there are more gaps to fill?
Regular specs:
$329 9.7” (rumored to become 10.2”)
$399 7.9” mini
Pro specs:
$649 10.5 (rumored to become semi-pro)
$799 11
$999 12.9
Size: see above
I can see some room between $329 (maybe dropping to $299) and $799 for an “iPad Plus”. Maybe $499 and it loses some of the Pro features—don’t ask me which ones. But no rounded screen or FaceID. That’s the 11” Pro.
But why would Apple make six models with an OCD-based forced rigidity to the feature set, regardless of what the demand would be for each? That doesn’t accomplish what Apple wants; that accomplishes what you want.
It reminds me of people who want four or six iPhone models and think it would “simplify” the lineup... regular/Pro of two or three different sizes. No, having six different phones isn’t simpler than three. $749 LCD, $999 OLED, $1,099 OLED is not really that hard to figure out.
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Another reason for the BOD to implement a timeline to replace Tim. Enough of the candy canes, and jellybeans. I want Apple back. 
Who wants to take bets that the new iPads won't have 2nd gen Apple Pencil support?
Another reason for the BOD to implement a timeline to replace Tim. Enough of the candy canes, and jellybeans. I want Apple back.
The Apple you want is NEVER coming back. Get used to it. The board loves Tim.
I totally agree. Make it an optional mac connectable drawing
tablet.
I'd like to note that the likeliest differentiator between a 10.2" and 10.5" iPad would be whether the display is laminated to the digitizer. Otherwise consolidating on a common chassis would make sense. It would also maybe allow for the 10.5" laminated display to be a BTO upgrade; or an option only available on higher storage tiers.
“Throwing a wrench into rumors, the previously accurate Twitter account CoinX today claimed that Apple plans to release not only a 10.2-inch seventh-generation iPad, but also an entirely new 10.5-inch iPad without Pro branding. The tablets will not be released simultaneously, according to the tweet.”
Anyone else read that as without Pro bending?
Anyone else read that as without Pro bending?
I remember those days, there were dozens of models, many with the same features but with different names. Even Apple couldn’t keep them straight.
Is it really that complicated?
Regular:
7.9” iPad mini
9.7” iPad (rumored to be updating to 10.2”)
Pro:
10.5 (rumored to become “semi-pro”)
11
12.9
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They are probably going to replace the 10.5 Pro with a 10.5 regular, that has less powerful components but maintains the industrial design (smaller bezels, screen lamination maybe a bit thinner/lighter than the 9.7 regular). This way they can drop $100-$150 from the price of the current 10.5 Pro and reposition it. The Pro will stay as Face ID only, with the bezels-less design and Liquid LCD. Now that the Pro has a newer industrial design it makes sense than the previous pro design trickles down to the iPad regular.
This is all getting bit silly - I guess they could just price by length - say, $400 for the first 8 inches then $75 for each additional half inch... Any size you like!
