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I highly, highly double the Apple Watch will get its own GPS. GPS sucks power like crazy and there is little need when most carry their iPhone with them even when working out. There are only a small number of runners that don't carry their phone while they run.
You're not a serious runner, then.

If it doesn't have a GPS, then it's not a serious smart watch.
 
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If Apple doesn't release a new, reasonably powered laptop soon, I will drop supporting all of their product lines.
 
Not updating to the new watch if announced. The first generation still hasn't reached peak potential, Apple seems to have forgotten it already. If ATV5 is released I see no reason to purchase that either, just got a 4 and again still hasn't reached peak potential. Until some apps are released for both that push them to their limit I don't see a reason to upgrade those 2 devices. Probably skip next years phone as well. This year gave me all new devices except my iPad, but again Ipad Air 2 still hasn't been pushed so it's good for a while.
 
I highly, highly double the Apple Watch will get its own GPS. GPS sucks power like crazy and there is little need when most carry their iPhone with them even when working out. There are only a small number of runners that don't carry their phone while they run.
GPS doesn't suck power like crazy. Runners, for the most part, do not carry a cumbersome phone. They have everything on their wrist. If Apple is serious about the "sport" part of the Apple Watch, a GPS needs to be standard. Without it it's nothing more than an extension of your phone and not a piece of health equipment which they are touting it as.
 
You don't think that Apple is aiming to change all that? You simply assume that things need to remain as they've been to this point, rather than change as Apple has done in many categories before.

What is the advantage to Apple to simply upgrade the chipset for people with the Editions rather than get them to buy a new one? If that was something they'd entertain, why don't they offer that service every time a new MacBook Pro is released with an unchanged case? Apple wants to sell you a new one every time, even if that new thing is another $10k watch to replace the one they sold you last year.
Because of the sheer investment on the casing. The buyers mentality of an Edition is far different than that of a normal bloke who simply desires a new gadget. I could see that if Apple had financing and a trade in value, like cars (I've never met somebody who buys their exotics with cash, unless they're collecting. They always lease or finance for a year, dump it and upgrade for the least amount of upfront loss), but they don't.

It's a piece of technology that can be dissasembled like a watch, with components replaced like a watch, because it's a watch, and the design won't change, as maflynn mentioned. I'm sure the watch's design will be 3-5 years.

It's not a computer. Even then, most folks upgrade every 3-5 years, which I'd say is a normal personal upgrade cycle. Unless it's used for heavy lifting, like editing, production, etc, you're a fool to upgrade your computer every year; you waste your money.

Apple won't alienate their best clients. Just the ones who live paycheck to paycheck, since that's where they make the bulk of their consumer product cash.
 
pushing the health sensor would be key. It would definitely be more interested..

And wireless charging (5-10 feet)!
 
Wow today really is a good Apple news day!

Apple if you are listening, I really want to see:

GPS
SIRI capable of doing everything the iPhone does
More fitness and health sensors (SpO2 to name one)
WIFI and Network independence from paired iPhone
Compatibility with all the current straps and accessories
Faster processing (still taking too long to load some apps)
Thinner!!!
 
I am probably going to pick up a used 6c assuming the rumored smaller screen is true. My girlfriend can't stand the new device sizes so she's still on 4s. Though she uses it as an ipod, not a phone. So I would just snag a used blacklisted device off ebay within a few weeks of release, again assuming they put one out. I can see why they would, there's a lot of people out there who just want a small device, not a big screen.
 
Wrong. You're going to probably see mid level partnerships with brands that your average Apple Watch consumer would actually be interested in. Kate Spade, Diesel/G Star, etc. Probably a lot of focus on fitness this time also. This high end focus with the edition and luxury partnerships was an awful idea.

There were rumors Apple was working with different materials. I also wouldn't be surprised if we see another high profile partnership.
 
READY FOR THE NEW HARDWARE FOR THE WATCH!! SUPER EXCITING

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You're not a serious runner, then.

If it doesn't have a GPS, then it's not a serious smart watch.


Remember that this isn't a smartwatch made just for runners. If you want that then go buy a Garmin. This is a device made for the greatest number of people out there and of those people, runners make up a small percentage.

Apple needs to balance the needs of the general consumer. That doesn't mean killing battery life with a GPS just so the small group of runners can have what they want, just as it doesn't mean adding a 4" screen for those with fat fingers.

GPS doesn't suck power like crazy. Runners, for the most part, do not carry a cumbersome phone. They have everything on their wrist. If Apple is serious about the "sport" part of the Apple Watch, a GPS needs to be standard. Without it it's nothing more than an extension of your phone and not a piece of health equipment which they are touting it as.

This isn't a product made just for runners. If you want something to meet your runner needs, get a product made specifically for it.

There are far more sports out there than just running. The "Sport" in the name is simply because it has a sporty band.

Because of the sheer investment on the casing. The buyers mentality of an Edition is far different than that of a normal bloke who simply desires a new gadget. I could see that if Apple had financing and a trade in value, like cars (I've never met somebody who buys their exotics with cash, unless they're collecting. They always lease or finance for a year, dump it and upgrade for the least amount of upfront loss), but they don't.

It's a piece of technology that can be dissasembled like a watch, with components replaced like a watch, because it's a watch, and the design won't change, as maflynn mentioned. I'm sure the watch's design will be 3-5 years.


Apple won't alienate their best clients. Just the ones who live paycheck to paycheck, since that's where they make the bulk of their consumer product cash.

Everyone I know that owns high end watches and Ferraris continues to buy more and more of both. They don't cry when a new one comes out, they just buy it. There's a huge difference between a high-end watch buyer and those you're describing which are people that can't really afford the high-end but buy it anyways so they need to trade-in every time.

It's not a computer. Even then, most folks upgrade every 3-5 years, which I'd say is a normal personal upgrade cycle. Unless it's used for heavy lifting, like editing, production, etc, you're a fool to upgrade your computer every year; you waste your money.

Here you state that it's stupid to upgrade computers every year to keep up with the latest but somehow it's not stupid to do the same with watches. Brilliant logic. :rolleyes:
 
Wow today really is a good Apple news day!

Apple if you are listening, I really want to see:

GPS
SIRI capable of doing everything the iPhone does
More fitness and health sensors (SpO2 to name one)
WIFI and Network independence from paired iPhone
Compatibility with all the current straps and accessories
Faster processing (still taking too long to load some apps)
Thinner!!!
Why Thinner? Thinner = less battery. Everyone is saying the the new Apple Battery case is dumb because of the Hump. Asking why if the iPhone 6/6s needs and external battery why no make the phone thinker in the first place. The current Watch battery life is bad enough why make it worse? If the can make the electronics smaller and more efficient why not make the battery bigger? Also if they add more sensor that will take more room and power.
 
This isn't a product made just for runners. If you want something to meet your runner needs, get a product made specifically for it.

There are far more sports out there than just running. The "Sport" in the name is simply because it has a sporty band.

There are more sports out there than running and nobody that plays them carries a phone. It's Apple touting the Apple Watch as a piece of health/sports equipment. Right now, it's really neither.
 
I'll buy when three criteria are met:

1) I don't need to carry my phone on a run to get the full feature set of the watch (I've never, ever carried a phone on a run and I'm not about to start)

2) It's about 30% as thick as it currently is - let's face it, this is one product that grossly needs to be thinner, it's hideous as-is and one third as thick? Much nicer looking and feeling.

3) Battery lasts several days

So in other words, generation 4 or 5.
 
Remember that this isn't a smartwatch made just for runners. If you want that then go buy a Garmin. This is a device made for the greatest number of people out there and of those people, runners make up a small percentage.

Apple needs to balance the needs of the general consumer. That doesn't mean killing battery life with a GPS just so the small group of runners can have what they want, just as it doesn't mean adding a 4" screen for those with fat fingers.



This isn't a product made just for runners. If you want something to meet your runner needs, get a product made specifically for it.

There are far more sports out there than just running. The "Sport" in the name is simply because it has a sporty band.



Everyone I know that owns high end watches and Ferraris continues to buy more and more of both. They don't cry when a new one comes out, they just buy it. There's a huge difference between a high-end watch buyer and those you're describing which are people that can't really afford the high-end but buy it anyways so they need to trade-in every time.



Here you state that it's stupid to upgrade computers every year to keep up with the latest but somehow it's not stupid to do the same with watches. Brilliant logic. :rolleyes:

The current sports watch is labeled wrong. Nothing more then a less expensive Apple Watch. Maybe Apple needs to rename the current sports watch (everyday watch) then make a sports watch that actually is a sports watch.
 
There are more sports out there than running and nobody that plays them carries a phone. It's Apple touting the Apple Watch as a piece of health/sports equipment. Right now, it's really neither.

The majority of people working out bring their phone with them according to a survey by Outdoor Magazine.

IDC research, along with Facebook, showed 79% of people ages 18-444 have their smartphones with them 22 hours a day. 63% keep it with them for all but one hour. A full quarter of respondents couldn’t recall a single time of the day when their phone wasn’t in the same room as them.

So again, it appears that the vast majority carry their phone with them while they're doing nearly everything.

I'm sorry you're in the small minority but Apple isn't building a watch for everyone. They're building it for the greatest majority of consumers out there.

Most people aren't hardcore runners. 80% of Americans don't get the recommended amount of weekly exercise according to the Centers for Disease Control. Most wouldn't have a need for GPS because they aren't that dedicated to working out.

It's time to start recognizing that your own needs aren't those of the majority and instead represent a small minority which may be better served with a niche product than with one that is designed for the average user.

The current sports watch is labeled wrong. Nothing more then a less expensive Apple Watch. Maybe Apple needs to rename the current sports watch (everyday watch) then make a sports watch that actually is a sports watch.

Sports is just a reference to the band cause they didn't wanna call it the Apple Watch Plastic or the Apple Watch Basic.

To their credit, it is the best band for working out as sweat on the other ones if more of an issue. Leather and sweat or leather and metal aren't nearly as easy to clean as some rubber.

I'll buy when three criteria are met:

1) I don't need to carry my phone on a run to get the full feature set of the watch (I've never, ever carried a phone on a run and I'm not about to start)

2) It's about 30% as thick as it currently is - let's face it, this is one product that grossly needs to be thinner, it's hideous as-is and one third as thick? Much nicer looking and feeling.

3) Battery lasts several days

So in other words, generation 4 or 5.

You'll never see battery like that. Not given the current advances in batteries. Elon Musk and Apple have made it clear that batteries simply don't work like that with advances.

You'll have to hope for Gen 50+ for something like that.
 
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Why can't they add GPS then you can select to turn it on for running, without GPS it's useless. Battery life will remain the same with it turned off and will allow best of both worlds.
 
Sports is just a reference to the band cause they didn't wanna call it the Apple Watch Plastic or the Apple Watch Basic.

To their credit, it is the best band for working out as sweat on the other ones if more of an issue. Leather and sweat or leather and metal aren't nearly as easy to clean as some rubber.
I understand the reference if it was only the band. However, the case, and limited functionality of the current sports watch seems a bit of a stretch. See where it goes.
 
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