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The Apple integrated environment, change phone break the evironmemt.

Agreed, but the impact of this is not as significant as it sounds.

You gain way more than what you lose, unless the integration itself is what attracts you to iPhone above all else.

Personally, I didn't find out which was true for me until I took the chance, and now I cannot go back.
 
I wonder how long it’ll be before they get iOS running on a Galaxy or Android running on an iPhone.

Android is a superset so just disable app drawer, connected background multitasking, file manager, split screen multitasking, PiP, pen, etc. and it'll be as basic as iOS for iPhone. Unfortunately, there's no way to mimmick iOS' static home screen icons or non-sensible menu hierarchy such as hiding motion and reduced transparency under accessibility when it should be under display instead.
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Those who negate switching to OLED as important remember this. Yes, it's true, the general public might not initially care or understand the difference. But just like increasing resolution to retina, people ultimately do care. Once Apple switched to OLED, many will talk about how they can't even look at their old phones any more. The iPhone has an amazing screen. But right now, I don't think anything compares to the Note 5. And people DO talk about how nice their (no matter what device they have) screen is. People do care.

SAMOLED will be as signicant as the jump from 1GB to 2GB DRAM. Hopefully, Apple will pull another surprise with making 32GB storage in the base model but that's probably asking for too much.
 
yep... supply constraints.... it will be for top iphones only,,, then their'll be issues getting these out..

Its probably pushed to a year ahead anyway, so this what i think.

Can't wait to see MR users claim that their LG screen is better than the SAMSUNG and then we have the hypochondriacs starting a class action suit.

And, while Apple is developing the crack for the FBI, they'll enable to download an Android version, kind of like being able to run WINdoof on a mac.

Mootcamp.
 
SAMOLED will be as signicant as the jump from 1GB to 2GB DRAM.
...so, not particularly significant then.

Because the extra RAM is nice when you run a lot of tabs, but hardly significant given iOS's optimization of memory use. I expect that OLED will be about the same, a bit nicer but not significantly better given Apple's current optimization of LED technology in their iPhone screens.
 
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From how we understand the words today, iPhone was the first smartphone and iPad was the first tablet.

Most don't remember Yahoo, AltaVista, Excite, Infoseek, Webcrawler, Hotbot, MSN, Hotbot, or other early search engines either (yes, some of us do but the general population wouldn't know what you were talking about if you mentioned them). To most, Google is and always has been THE search engine.
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Ya but this is just a single component? How is apple going to make the display better than Samsung, when it's MADE by Samsung?

Many times a company creates a better product and has it produced by another. Apple made some of the early SSD enhancements that Samsung uses today for example.
 
so will the battery last longer because of OLED? if so I hope they don't just make the battery smaller and get no increase in battery life
 
...so, not particularly significant then.

Because the extra RAM is nice when you run a lot of tabs, but hardly significant given iOS's optimization of memory use. I expect that OLED will be about the same, a bit nicer but not significantly better given Apple's current optimization of LED technology in their iPhone screens.

If you only use it as a basic phone for calls then it won't make a difference but that's like the minority 1%. For the majority who use it like a tablet or laptop it's a huge upgrade for user experience.
 
so will the battery last longer because of OLED? if so I hope they don't just make the battery smaller and get no increase in battery life

All depends on other engineering. But if Ive has the opportunity to make the device thinner without sacrificing battery power - then he likely would.
 
Ugh. All I see happening is thinner phone and smaller battery. The iPhone was too thin when we had the 5 and 5S. I would be happy with my 6+ being a little bigger if we could put a bigger battery in it. The battery is nice as it is, but honestly, this battery life should be for the 6, and then give the 6+ users a big enough battery to last more than 48 hours. That would also give them room to put in a wireless charging solution, keep the camera flush, and even do some water proofing. I don't think they should even have a lightning cable anymore. Switch to wireless headphones only, ship them with wireless headphones, and just make the charger the same as the Apple Watch charger so we can snap it on the back and not have to leave it lying on a stupid power mat or something.
 
Agreed, but the impact of this is not as significant as it sounds.

You gain way more than what you lose, unless the integration itself is what attracts you to iPhone above all else.

Personally, I didn't find out which was true for me until I took the chance, and now I cannot go back.
Depends on your environment and use. Me, kill my watch, I almost never use my phone other then to text or actually talk on it. Other phone tasks like photos, alarm, and other apps do not require an exceptional screen. My phone has degraded to a hub for other devices in the Apple environment. If I need anything serious done, like photo editing, use iPad or real serious use MacBook. With integration I can easily move to the device that best meets my needs.
 
Does that mean the 7, 7s or 8? I definitely think that the display on an iPhone is great, but when I put it next to a Nexus 6P or Samsung S6/S7, there is no comparison. The OLED is just deeper/richer experience.
 
Previous Samsung displays were ghastly over-saturated. Now they still are a bit off, but their other strengths far outweigh this one deficiency.

I walked pass the S7 several times today. These displays look stunning even at a distance.
 
Sure, because changing to OLED will make the sales go up :rolleyes:

Curious, have you have owned an OLED phone? The screen on my prior phone - original Moto X - was night-and-day better than my iPhone 6 (to me). And it's not just the color saturation (which I really liked). When I read online - browser in reading mode, Reeder, etc. - I prefer white text on a a black background. You just can't explain how much better the experience is with absolute black vs. the dirty gray that you get on the iPhone. It also uses much less battery because the black pixels aren't active. That also adds always on potential or very subtle lock screen notifications like the Moto X had. I switched back to iPhone because I like iOS better than Android, but I really miss that screen (that was released in 2013 and was hardly the first).
 
They need the technology to age enough for it to minimally affect profit margins. OLED displays are significantly more expensive than LCDs.

At the prices they charge, I (and probably plenty of others) expect more from my Apple gear. I don't give a crap about what it costs *them*.

Sure, this explains why they make the choices they do, but... Compete or get eaten, Apple.
 
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Most don't remember Yahoo, AltaVista, Excite, Infoseek, Webcrawler, Hotbot, MSN, Hotbot, or other early search engines either (yes, some of us do but the general population wouldn't know what you were talking about if you mentioned them). To most, Google is and always has been THE search engine.
I never said Google was the first search engine, I said the iPhone was the first smartphone. Previous Nokia phones named "smartphones" we're actually just feature phones with more features than normal.
 
Depends on your environment and use.

Agreed.

Me, kill my watch, I almost never use my phone other then to text or actually talk on it. Other phone tasks like photos, alarm, and other apps do not require an exceptional screen.

Not for me. My phone is my first go-to device, as it is with me at all times. It is the original source of photos and personal vids, stores and accesses music and movies,, and when I'm on-call it is able to remote into whatever I want, when I want. Also, until you've used an exceptional screen like the Note5's on the regular, you don't know what you're missing. Plus, with the Note I get a mouse built in (the stylus) which is far more precise than a finger and indispensable when navigating many of my company's internal (i.e. non-mobile) sites. My phone is effectively a pocket PC, something iOS can't match.

My phone has degraded to a hub for other devices in the Apple environment. If I need anything serious done, like photo editing, use iPad or real serious use MacBook. With integration I can easily move to the device that best meets my needs.

In my situation, my hub is actually whichever app I use to host what I need. The key is that I need easy interoperability with both Apple and non-Apple systems, both in the personal and professional spaces. This makes an all-Apple ecosystem actually more cumbersome. I could easily transition my workflows/lifestyle to all Windows or Linux setup, so long as the necessary app exists in said platform. I use Macs because I want to, not because I need to. But iOS and its ecosystem is (relatively) unfriendly to other platforms, where the Mac and OS X are relatively more pragmatic and open, particularly with bootcamp. At least for now.
 
we call it TORCH mode. samsung is one of the worst. burn in is also still an issue

Ignoring burn in, cause it's not "still an issue".

The Over saturation of Colours that Samsung phones have is actually a software option that can be turned on or off in the settings. On "photo" mode, Samsung's current (As of the S6) AMOLED's are the most accurate displays, and regularly rated as the best mobile displays in the business.

Samsung just defaults their phones to the over saturated mode, and doesn't actively tell users that you can turn it off. You can find this option in the settings menu, under "display", under "Screen mode". With 4 colour options
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always?

multi touch on a phone
64 bit processors in a phone
3d touch on a phone
AI on a phone
touch id (that actually worked and was useful)

the list goes on and on

apple is hardly always behind the times. apple needs every phone they manufacture to have OLED - they won't produce a limited number of OLED's. Until now, no one has been able to supply them in the quantities they need.

Multi-Touch on a phone. Sure, But they purchased the company that was doing it. Apple did not invent multi-touch. The company that was working on Glass Capacitive based multi-touch was named FingerWorks. Once Apple purchased this company in 2005, they ceased all other products that involved gesture based systems, and kept the remainder of the tech exclusively to themselves.

64 bit processors - Sure, Apple was first, but this was also not created in a vacume. The entire industry was already proceeding with development of 64bit CPU's. QualComm had already been rumoured to be working on ARM designed 64bit CPU's. Apple did surprise them though by getting their ARM based 64bit CPU out first.

3D Touch- I'll admit is kind of cool. Haven't looked into much, but "pressure sensitive" interaction isn't super new.

AI on Phone: There is no AI on the phone. So not sure how you mean. In fact, Mankind has yet to actually invent "AI". There has been no legitimate software that has passed the Turing test. If you are referring to Voice dictation and personal assistant? There have been previous version of this tech, which Apple built upon in a nicer way, But has since been eclipsed by others. Like most tech, Apple is not first, They are just really good at innovating refinement.

Touch ID: Not an Apple Invention. Touch-ID was invented by a company called AuthenTec. After a couple of mediocre attempts on other smartphones to implement fingerprint ID recognition, AuthenTec set out to refine a better method, that was better and more reliable. AuthenTec had been working on this fingerprint reader and had been rumoured to have potential deals in place to include their sensor in Samsung, and Motorolla devices. Apple purchased the company outright, and kept the technology exclusively for themselves. This forced Motorola to ditch the fingerprint sensor for that generation (That's apparently why Moto's have the dimple in the back. That was where they were planning the sensor). And Samsung had to resort in the meantime to previous technologies and start from scratch on designing their fingerprint sensor.

I'm not saying here That Apple isn't good at what they do. But don't start giving them credit for stuff they actually didn't do. One of the biggest fallacies that Apple has helped portray is that they are grand inventors. They are not inventors. They are innovators who have taken existing technologies, and packaged them in such ways that look great, and are usably by lots of people.
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...so, not particularly significant then.

Because the extra RAM is nice when you run a lot of tabs, but hardly significant given iOS's optimization of memory use. I expect that OLED will be about the same, a bit nicer but not significantly better given Apple's current optimization of LED technology in their iPhone screens.

It will be significant, but more likely that most people won't really care why. They will just say "it looks better than before!". Similarly, most users of the iPhones say 'its smoother than before'. They don't generally know the exact technological reason why. The numbers "1gb v 2gb" will probably inspire their eyes to glass over and think about cats and their next reddit post for Karma.

All they know. is This generation is better than the previous for what I want to do.
 
I never said Google was the first search engine, I said the iPhone was the first smartphone. Previous Nokia phones named "smartphones" we're actually just feature phones with more features than normal.

You're completely missing entire portions of the SmartPhone market that existed prior to the iPhone, that actually were more feature filled than the iPhone at the time.

Blackberry, Compaq, Palm, all had devices that were absolutely "smartphones" by todays standards, even if they were on their own OS. They featured Applications that could be installed an executed. Web Browsers, PDA functionality, PMP functionality. Some had full keyboards, Some where largely screens with few buttons on the front.

Apple did NOT invent the Smartphone. Apple popularized the Smartphone by creating an extremely sleek, stylish, and unique version of the smartphone, then leveraged off the popularity of their iTunes and iPod product lineups in order to gain Consumer recognition of the Smartphone industry.
 
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How about a teaser OLED screen version in 2016 on the 4-inch models? That will be a great tune-up to release the 7s - all sizes.
 
Blackberry, Compaq, Palm, all had devices that were absolutely "smartphones" by todays standards, even if they were on their own OS. They featured Applications that could be installed an executed. Web Browsers, PDA functionality, PMP functionality. Some had full keyboards, Some where largely screens with few buttons on the front.
A hardware keyboard or a stylus and it's not a smartphone. Smartphones have multi-touch as their primary input method. Also never updated pre-installed applications don't make a smartphone. OS updates and a viable AppStore market plus an IDE to create our own apps make a smartphone.

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