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Apple Posts First iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c Product Videos

1. The 5C looks good for another segment of the marketplace. My teenaged daughter doesn't need a 5S but would do fine with the 5C. The 5C is more appealing to her.

2. The 5S fits me better professionally. I like the TouchID feature and hoping it works well. I want (and actually have no choice) the security in a complex password but find it frustrating to use when unlocking my phone dozens and dozens of times a day. I do hope the iphone 5S type line is more professionally focused and Apple improves on some of the productivity apps...specifically mail.

Each version of the iPhone isn't only about what that deliverable immediately offers. It's also about what has been implemented for future expansion. While it may not enough for some people the hardware & software is plenty to satisfy me. I like the direction Apple continues to move.
 
captain kaos said:
Yeah, because we all know the footage used in these videos are from the phone itself, and not another HD camera on a dolly. :rolleyes:

And for me, Sir Ive's videos are creepy. From his voice, the speed of his diction and how he uses as many ridiculously sounding words as possible for something simple turns me off the video. "Unashamedly plastic", really, you're trying to convince yourself to much Johnny.
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you need to understand though; the idea of plastic on phones is inferior and laughable when a bunch of android phones are made out of plastic and the iphone is not, but now that apple makes them too it's quite a glorious and innovative idea
 
xFenixKnightx said:
Same here. Bring on the 4.8" and 5.5" iphone 6 models Apple!!! :) keep the 5c for the folks who want oldschool iPhone size.
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I think that the type of person who buys an iPhone will not want to be touching a plastic phone.
 
xFenixKnightx said:
Same here. Bring on the 4.8" and 5.5" iphone 6 models Apple!!! :) keep the 5c for the folks who want oldschool iPhone size.
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Quite the opposite. Apple please make a giant iphone 6c for the people who want huge phones and make an expensive smaller iphone 6 for those who want normal sized phones.
 
Shaun said:
£709 for the iPhone 5S 64GB. Ouch! Even the entry level iPhone 4S with 8GB is still £349. I wish them well but I think these prices are just ridiculous.

Shares down another 2% in pre-market. Interested to see what happens over the next few days.
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Not ridiculous at all really in the grand scheme of things.

In 2011 I paid £699 (un-locked) for my 64GB 4S, as it cost the same or more with an upfront payment and monthly cost's with any decent carrier I was prepared to use.

Buying the phone unlocked meant that I actually saved money, about £20 based on the 2-year contract costs. I have an O2 sim only plan and get freebies every time I pretend I am switching carriers... If you can afford to buy it outright it is always best, as there are no 'deals', only 'pay now' or 'pay later' with extra on top to cover the interest. Also with the carrier only supplying a sim, they work harder to keep you, as you are not captive.

For me, Apple are asking for only £10 more 2 years on for better tech, so I do not feel hard done by. I can also sell my current phone (unlocked at any time) for on average £300, but I will probably pass it on down the family chain.
 
Mactendo said:
It's like saying that new Lamborghini model makes a difference in China because it's $1000 cheaper than the previous one.
iPhone 5c is still too expensive for China, and there it will cost $733, due to local taxes. It's a flop. Huge, plain, total flop.
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While there's poverty in China to be sure there's also money there. Big money. I don't think you know China that well.
 
iSayuSay said:
I really dislike how the case for iPhone 5C looks.

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The holes will allow dust and dirt to enter, which will scratch the phone as it rubs between the case and the body of the phone. I don't understand why they would design a case that allows grit to enter so easily.
 
As someone who is always bigging up Apple's attention to detail and Jony Ive's attention to detail.. I'm somewhat baffled by the issue of the iPhone name on the back of the 5C being half hidden by cover. You can see the 'Pho' but not the rest of the name. This seems very sloppy to me. Either hide all of it, or hide none of it. I know the "Steve would never have..." term is used a lot these days, especially with product launches.. but I honestly don't believe it would have got past him. I'm gobsmacked it's made it past Jony.

Even if it's a subtle way for Apple to make sure people know the user is using an iPhone.. I don't think that excuses it.

Here's a picture: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAADHvo/coYAL4lY90Y/w346-h228/iphonec2.jpg
 
Collected said:
As someone who is always bigging up Apple's attention to detail and Jony Ive's attention to detail.. I'm somewhat baffled by the issue of the iPhone name on the back of the 5C being half hidden by cover. You can see the 'Pho' but not the rest of the name. This seems very sloppy to me. Either hide all of it, or hide none of it. I know the "Steve would never have..." term is used a lot these days, especially with product launches.. but I honestly don't believe it would have got past him. I'm gobsmacked it's made it past Jony.

Even if it's a subtle way for Apple to make sure people know the user is using an iPhone.. I don't think that excuses it.

Here's a picture: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-...AAAAAADHvo/coYAL4lY90Y/w346-h228/iphonec2.jpg
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It actually shows "non"!
It's not only not "attention to details" but a big mistake.
 
Gutwrench said:
While there's poverty in China to be sure there's also money there. Big money. I don't think you know China that well.
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Probably he knows China well enough.

http://news.sky.com/story/1139771/apple-iphone-5c-launched-in-california
"In a survey on Sina.com.cn, a Chinese web provider similar to Yahoo!, 88.4% of those polled said the price for the iPhone 5C was too high. Only 2.6% said they would buy one."

"The company has, so far, failed to sign a deal with China's largest mobile network, China Mobile."
 
iGrip said:
The holes will allow dust and dirt to enter, which will scratch the phone as it rubs between the case and the body of the phone. I don't understand why they would design a case that allows grit to enter so easily.
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Form over function, my friend. That's what Apple is always about.

Apple said so itself. The holes "beautifully" expose your iPhone true color. Fine. But why exposes ugly "hon" part of text like it's an afterthought instead of carefully design it? Small details attention used to be Apple's expertise.

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Gutwrench said:
While there's poverty in China to be sure there's also money there. Big money. I don't think you know China that well.
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Let's say Chinese market has big money within. What makes them buy the 5C then? How about spend $100 more and aim for the main cast of the show, the 5S?

What's with buying $500 plastic iPhone? Let's up the game to $600 and buy the "real deal" with A7, fingerprint, and Al unibody instead..
 
After yesterdays event something is clear for me, my next mobile phone will be an used iPhone 5 or an Android phone, because they are cheaper. ;)
 
People were suspecting that Gold iPhone was gonna be a meh, a niche product but now that Apple has forced people to choose either the same old silver/white combo design or this gold/white, I think gold/white will sell in tons (5S users who want to differentiate themselves from the iPhone 5).
 
NoMoreSony said:
Probably he knows China well enough.

http://news.sky.com/story/1139771/apple-iphone-5c-launched-in-california
"In a survey on Sina.com.cn, a Chinese web provider similar to Yahoo!, 88.4% of those polled said the price for the iPhone 5C was too high. Only 2.6% said they would buy one."

"The company has, so far, failed to sign a deal with China's largest mobile network, China Mobile."
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We will see, but I don't think so. Maybe it's merely anecdotal but we've been in China 2-3 times a year for months at a time for the past ten years. The economic changes there are unprecedented. In my experience there's a pretty inaccurate and somewhat arrogant perception of China among most westerners. There is a huge market of people who can (and are willing to) afford much more than perceived.
 
iChrist said:
Agree, Jony I've is becoming a parody of himself. "When something is familiar yet new it is magical...". Really, WTF does that mean? And how exactly is a iPhone 5 in a colored plastic shell... magical?

What a clown, man. All seriousness is gone from Apple after Steve died.
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What are you talking about? That's exactly something Jobs would have said. Steve frequently used the words: "extraordinary", "best", "unbelievable", "way better", "magical", "it's a dream" and so forth. He would use those for both new products (iPads) and iterations of products.
 
radiohead14 said:
that 5C video reminds me of all those apple parodies. ive talking a lot about so little using as many fancy words as possible to describe plastic.
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Yeah, unfortunately Ive has become more and more of a parody of himself. I love his design work, but the fancy words and head tilt schtick is getting really, REALLY old. The way he babbles on and on obsessively about minuscule details like some Rain Man is just sleep inducing now.

The schtick had more relevance when he was talking about big stuff like the MacBook Pro unibody design and manufacturing process, but to use the same approach for trivial trinkets like the 5C cases ("...the soft, matte, microfiber lined silicon is a very intentional contrast to the glossy hard-coat finish of the iPhone..." - cool story bro, wanna hear mine? Once upon a time, nobody gave a ****. The end.) is complete overkill that just begs to become an SNL mock commercial.

I honestly think Federighi should be promoted to the new face of Apple, he carries the Steve Jobs torch better than any of the other clowns and his segments of the keynotes are the most enjoyable, informative and upbeat. Schiller's sweaty wart collection, Ive's autistic ramblings and Cook's nauseating accent ("gorjez ret'na displaaaaurghhh") kill the excitement.
 
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I really dont like the design of the 5s (or the 5'er). Looks flashy and in some weird way cheap (like the fake gucci stuff you meet when traveling in Asia - no offence). It doesn't appeal to me. I want the best (like the 5s) but I like a more "stealthy"/"silent" look.

So, Iphone 6 - I cross my fingers :apple:
 
Steve would have never allowed this..Seriously. And I'm super surprised Jony did. It's these little things that are showing me the rapid transformation of Apple from "magical" to "greedy/corporate" (aka not magical). Apple is turning into a giant version of SONY. And that sucks.
 
haruhiko said:
It actually shows "non"!
It's not only not "attention to details" but a big mistake.
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Holy Cases Batman! Just clicked in that link. And you're right. It's a pretty bad oversight.
1) These semicases have holes in the back. That way you can show of your new 5C to your friends with.
2) But you won't be able to tell which model it is 'cos the 'holes' don't match the logo in the back.
3) D'oh

Anyway. Being negative is easy. It is. To be positive think good thoughts.
The 5C is for those who are "good with colours"
The 5S is for those unwilling to wait until next Spring when the full blown iPhone (6) with large screen. Faster processor. 128gb memory AND fingerprint machine wil be released for the same price.
Moral: All good(er) things come to those who wait (6 months)
Sorted! :)
 
sulpfiction said:
Steve would have never allowed this..Seriously. And I'm super surprised Jony did. It's these little things that are showing me the rapid transformation of Apple from "magical" to "greedy/corporate" (aka not magical). Apple is turning into a giant version of SONY. And that sucks.
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It's a tightrope walk... history repeating itself. Apple wanted to sell quality and taste, and was steamrolled by Windows. Now they're getting steamrolled again by the plastic Samsung/Android juggernaut. If defending a market share is corporate greed, then it's a crime they have no option but to commit, with shareholders breathing down their necks.
 
I foresaw this when the rumours first started coming out -- How was Apple going to make a low-cost phone and SELL THEIR OLD INVENTORY?

But of course~! You know ... all those factory-defective iPhone 5 cases, dropped iPhone 5's and all that -- with perfectly good innards -- what to do?

Put it in a new wrapping of course!

NOW I know what the 'C' in iPhone 5c stands for - CANNIBALISE!
 
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