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Finally someone gets it

The iPad is not designed or marketed for the Technorati. This is not designed to be a Tablet Mac. This is an INFORMATION DEVICE for adults. A serious adult is not going to use an iPod Touch, it's too small and tedious to zoom in, pinch and stretch. An iPod Touch is seen as a novelty item for kids and young adults or an iPod that does some 'other' stuff. This is an INFORMATION DELIVERING DEVICE for everyone who doesn't want to be stuck in contract with at&t and pay $30 a month. This is for everyone else who can now receive information on the EASIEST platform to use without the restrictions of the iPhone (at&t & contract) and the limitations of the Touch ( small, childlike-toy) This is truly a new product that is INSANELY familar to the Technorati but new to a WHOLE new market....

I too have been laughing at all the negative comments. It is a game changer not by it's specs, or numbers, but how it feels and how it interacts with you. I think a lot of the technocrati (myself included) forget are that the majority of the population is emotional, and current computers over look this in favour of quantifiable numbers.

Sure my MBP is good at creating content, but it kinda sucks to consuming content. It is hot, I can't share the screen easily as it has to sit on my lap or I have to hold it up in a funny position. If I carry it around to show something it is awkward to carry because of the funny L shape.

These are all emotional responses that the iPad would rectify and as such would put me more seamlessly in touch with my content than before. It brings the digital one more step closer to being physical.

Watching the keynote, and looking at the iWorks presentation I was blown away at the user interface (UI) and the capabilities. Yes, the UI it is similar to the iPhone, but it is also waaaaaaaay more capable.

What ppl seem to be overlooking is that Apple has had a tablet project going for a long time. It wasn't ready to release earlier on, so you just saw a preview of it in the form of the iPhone. Of course it is going to be similar to the iPhone.

Finally, I am also beginning to understand Apple's push toward the no file metaphor and refusing multitasking. When I go to a computer I don't want to stare at a hierarchal structure of files, which is already an abstraction of the 1's and 0's on the hard drive. I want to interact with content.

When I want to work on my photos I don't want to look at a bunch of .jpegs in folders. I turn to a program like Lightroom, Aperture or iPhoto, which handles the file management on my behalf and instead presents my content to me directly. Same with note and project apps like curio and DevonThink (both of which I find invaluable in my research).

The iPhone/iPads UI embrace the philosophy that the appliance should be focused only on the task at hand, not the niggly details behind that task. You don't need to see files, if it handles the files and backups for you. You don't need multitasking if all you can browse the content from other programs directly (e.g. media inserter). The only exceptions are when you want tasks performed on your behalf in the background (e.g. encoding video, chats, music etc). The former has no place on a tablet, the latter I believe will be allowed to occur. Recall, the iPhone does do multitasking it just doesn't allow anything to be multitasked.

If you want full control over every detail, then there are products already available for you: laptops, netbooks. This is great for flexibility but the experience lacks.

If you want an experience, well then I think the iPad is on the right track.

Think about it for a bit.
 
Oh burn.

Seriously though. Have you been reading about the HP Slate. It uses a touch version of Windows 7 but the interface is very similar. In other words, it will be clunky as a touch device most likely. Also, there won't be anywhere near the amount of software for it as there is for the iPad, even if it is more advanced.

We will see but the HP Slate looks DOA to me.

I'm wondering if it will dock with Apple's case on it. I wonder if accessory makers like InCase already have designs for their products?

Actually, heres a pretty decent....no, great improvement over the iPad;

msi-tablet-20100128.jpg


http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/msis-10-inch-tablet-launching-this-year-at-500-patently-ignor/

$500, and its pretty safe to assume it does most of the things the iPad fails to do.
 
As an Apple user since 1984, I recommend to everybody to wait. They'll get it right in about 3 generations


And there's the rub. If *everybody* waits, and nobody buys one, do you really think they'll make three generations of them?

Some people have to buy this now. These people aren't the kind of users hanging out on websites following every rumor about Apple and agonizing over every detail. Set these things on a wood table in a brightly lit Apple store, and they'll sell to mall traffic all day long. And they'll be an improvement over what many people have, which is nothing.

And those people will be paying for the dev of our 2nd-gen model, with ichat cam, gps chip, cheap plastic back, etc etc etc...
 
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain

Wow, look at the thing I'll never buy that STILL won't play, author, or proof Blu-ray.

Tres 2005. Cutting edge. Less and less, day by day, hour by hour.

:apple:
 
"There isn't even a single orientation. There's no right or wrong way of holding it." -- Jony Ive

Are you sure? This orientation looks rather awkward!
 

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I too have been laughing at all the negative comments. It is a game changer not by it's specs, or numbers, but how it feels and how it interacts with you. I think a lot of the technocrati (myself included) forget are that the majority of the population is emotional, and current computers over look this in favour of quantifiable numbers.

Sure my MBP is good at creating content, but it kinda sucks to consuming content. It is hot, I can't share the screen easily as it has to sit on my lap or I have to hold it up in a funny position. If I carry it around to show something it is awkward to carry because of the funny L shape.

These are all emotional responses that the iPad would rectify and as such would put me more seamlessly in touch with my content than before. It brings the digital one more step closer to being physical.

Watching the keynote, and looking at the iWorks presentation I was blown away at the user interface (UI) and the capabilities. Yes, the UI it is similar to the iPhone, but it is also waaaaaaaay more capable.

What ppl seem to be overlooking is that Apple has had a tablet project going for a long time. It wasn't ready to release earlier on, so you just saw a preview of it in the form of the iPhone. Of course it is going to be similar to the iPhone.

Finally, I am also beginning to understand Apple's push toward the no file metaphor and refusing multitasking. When I go to a computer I don't want to stare at a hierarchal structure of files, which is already an abstraction of the 1's and 0's on the hard drive. I want to interact with content.

When I want to work on my photos I don't want to look at a bunch of .jpegs in folders. I turn to a program like Lightroom, Aperture or iPhoto, which handles the file management on my behalf and instead presents my content to me directly. Same with note and project apps like curio and DevonThink (both of which I find invaluable in my research).

The iPhone/iPads UI embrace the philosophy that the appliance should be focused only on the task at hand, not the niggly details behind that task. You don't need to see files, if it handles the files and backups for you. You don't need multitasking if all you can browse the content from other programs directly (e.g. media inserter). The only exceptions are when you want tasks performed on your behalf in the background (e.g. encoding video, chats, music etc). The former has no place on a tablet, the latter I believe will be allowed to occur. Recall, the iPhone does do multitasking it just doesn't allow anything to be multitasked.

If you want full control over every detail, then there are products already available for you: laptops, netbooks. This is great for flexibility but the experience lacks.

If you want an experience, well then I think the iPad is on the right track.

Think about it for a bit.

What he said.
 
What iPod should have been

I took all your suggestions and made a Mock up of what the iPad should have been... I got to tell ya I'm with Steve on this one.

ipadMock.png

 
The iPad is not designed or marketed for the Technorati. This is not designed to be a Tablet Mac. This is an INFORMATION DEVICE for adults. A serious adult is not going to use an iPod Touch, it's too small and tedious to zoom in, pinch and stretch. An iPod Touch is seen as a novelty item for kids and young adults or an iPod that does some 'other' stuff. This is an INFORMATION DELIVERING DEVICE for everyone who doesn't want to be stuck in contract with at&t and pay $30 a month. This is for everyone else who can now receive information on the EASIEST platform to use without the restrictions of the iPhone (at&t & contract) and the limitations of the Touch ( small, childlike-toy) This is truly a new product that is INSANELY familar to the Technorati but new to a WHOLE new market....

But why not just use a MBP or MBA with a 3g card? The applications for this thing are limitless but it doesn't appeal to the general consumer and its lack of basic features is disappointing. For example flash, I am really not a big fan of flash but for the "ultimate web browsing experience" it should at least be an option? Anyway if the iPhone/iPod Touch is too small for you why not just buy a Macbook? Its got 10 times the features of the iPad. Maybe, like the iPhone, future generations of the this product could be good but this one? No.
 
Steve Jobs initially compared the iPad to a netbook and said theyre not good at anything. Well, lemme tell you something kids, the iPads price starts at 500 bucks. A netbook with better specs, large storage space, a real tactile keyboard, expansion connections galore and above all else, the choice (something apple isnt comfortable with; choice) to install any operating system and software I want, is a way better and practical deal. I wouldnt have an issue spending 300 dollars on a basic netbook, but for nearly double you get an iPad that in reality doesnt do anything, NOT EVEN FLASH! Especially considering when steve 'big brother' jobs said it was an extraordinary web surfing experience on it, LOL.

iPhail.


your point reminds me of how rabid apple fanbois kept saying netbooks were under powered, cheap, slow, crap

then you guys praise this ipad?

my Asus 1201N Ion netbook has HDMI and plays 1080p videos, whos underpowered now?

cheap? its got a hellva lot more connectivity options than your ipad which costs considerably more to implement. whos cheap now? (3x USB, SDHC Card reader, VGA, HDMI, ethernet, web cam)

also the Atom N330 is a true dual core with Hyperthreading thats FOUR Logical CPU's in windows/ubuntu, can you say multitasking? FFS i can even run VMWare with 2-3 guest OS's what can this ipad do? does it even have a file browser?

64GB is the absolute most your going to get, that wont even hold half of my photos, my netbook on the other hand can be upgraded to 1TB and it comes with a 250GB out of the box.

i was hoping for apple to come out with something decent and to actually change the playing field, it looks like they failed miserably
 
I too have been laughing at all the negative comments. It is a game changer not by it's specs, or numbers, but how it feels and how it interacts with you. I think a lot of the technocrati (myself included) forget are that the majority of the population is emotional, and current computers over look this in favour of quantifiable numbers.

Sure my MBP is good at creating content, but it kinda sucks to consuming content. It is hot, I can't share the screen easily as it has to sit on my lap or I have to hold it up in a funny position. If I carry it around to show something it is awkward to carry because of the funny L shape.

These are all emotional responses that the iPad would rectify and as such would put me more seamlessly in touch with my content than before. It brings the digital one more step closer to being physical.

Watching the keynote, and looking at the iWorks presentation I was blown away at the user interface (UI) and the capabilities. Yes, the UI it is similar to the iPhone, but it is also waaaaaaaay more capable.

What ppl seem to be overlooking is that Apple has had a tablet project going for a long time. It wasn't ready to release earlier on, so you just saw a preview of it in the form of the iPhone. Of course it is going to be similar to the iPhone.

Finally, I am also beginning to understand Apple's push toward the no file metaphor and refusing multitasking. When I go to a computer I don't want to stare at a hierarchal structure of files, which is already an abstraction of the 1's and 0's on the hard drive. I want to interact with content.

When I want to work on my photos I don't want to look at a bunch of .jpegs in folders. I turn to a program like Lightroom, Aperture or iPhoto, which handles the file management on my behalf and instead presents my content to me directly. Same with note and project apps like curio and DevonThink (both of which I find invaluable in my research).

The iPhone/iPads UI embrace the philosophy that the appliance should be focused only on the task at hand, not the niggly details behind that task. You don't need to see files, if it handles the files and backups for you. You don't need multitasking if all you can browse the content from other programs directly (e.g. media inserter). The only exceptions are when you want tasks performed on your behalf in the background (e.g. encoding video, chats, music etc). The former has no place on a tablet, the latter I believe will be allowed to occur. Recall, the iPhone does do multitasking it just doesn't allow anything to be multitasked.

If you want full control over every detail, then there are products already available for you: laptops, netbooks. This is great for flexibility but the experience lacks.

If you want an experience, well then I think the iPad is on the right track.

Think about it for a bit.

This. If you are pissed about the iPad, then you have not been paying attention to what Apple has been doing since 2001. This is an appliance; not a computer. The sooner that sinks in, you may see where the iPad fits.

Read some of the stuff Bill Gates said in keynotes years ago and in his book The Roah Ahead for great insight to how the iPad may fit into the consumer digital lifestyle.
 
your point reminds me of how rabid apple fanbois kept saying netbooks were under powered, cheap, slow, crap

Nice try, but given netbooks' abysmal customer satisfaction and return rates, it seems it's more than the "rabid apple fanbois" who think netbooks are "crap." It's actual netbook buyers.

But hey, if manufacturers want to keep pumping these things out for razor-thin margins and customers want to keep buying them up (and returning them or cursing them), they can knock themselves out. Not Apple's problem.
 
The big fail of the iPad was the hype that was associated with the device. If Apple wants to call it magical and best device they have ever created they better come up with something that blows away everyones expectations. Then they show us this big ass iPod Touch and tell us it has the ultimate web browsing experience after which they show site with Flash content that isn't displaying... and crowd starts laughing... This could have been so much more if it had been based on real OS X and not on iPhone OS.
 
Please, speak for yourself...

Nice try, but given netbooks' abysmal customer satisfaction and return rates, it seems it's more than the "rabid apple fanbois" who think netbooks are "crap." It's actual netbook buyers.

But hey, if manufacturers want to keep pumping these things out for razor-thin margins and customers want to keep buying them up (and returning them or cursing them), they can knock themselves out. Not Apple's problem.

I own 1 netbook (XP/$329) and 1 dual-core notebook w/netbook form factor (W7.64/$369). I also own MBP 17" (SL/$2899). Ironically, I use the cheapest netbook the most, notebook occasionally and MBP very rare.

Netbooks are the most successful portables ever made, besides the fact they almost killed the PC industry. But then the weakest should go away anyway.

I have no complains on any of the three.
 
I own 1 netbook (XP/$329) and 1 dual-core notebook w/netbook form factor (W7.64/$369). I also own MBP 17" (SL/$2899). Ironically, I use the cheapest netbook the most, notebook occasionally and MBP very rare.

Netbooks are the most successful portables ever made, besides the fact they almost killed the PC industry. But then the weakest should go away anyway.

I have no complains on any of the three.

I can imagine your rationale, I had a netbook as well. I was considering a macbook laptop. My main computer is a Mac Pro (2 x 2.66ghz dual core, 6gb ram, 2x250gb RAID0 boot disk), which means nothing I buy in laptop will be able to compete. I knew whichever laptop id buy would perform poorly when working in photoshop and the rest of adobe creative suite. I also knew it would mainly and pretty much only be used to run msn messenger, firefox, filezilla, winamp and the sorts. I did of course install Adobe CS4 as well as lightroom and I knew very well they would underperform, which they did. This was not a concern, macbook or netbook, I'd get poor performance compared to my mac pro either way. The netbooks small and very comfortable sizd along with its awesome price tag made me turn away from the macbook $300 vs. $1100.

I sold my netbook because it wasnt being used, not because I didnt like it. I am thinking of having one in the future, the size is terrific and makes for a great portable computer at a VERY reasonable price, something no apple product has ever done.
 
your point reminds me of how rabid apple fanbois kept saying netbooks were under powered, cheap, slow, crap

then you guys praise this ipad?

my Asus 1201N Ion netbook has HDMI and plays 1080p videos, whos underpowered now?

cheap? its got a hellva lot more connectivity options than your ipad which costs considerably more to implement. whos cheap now? (3x USB, SDHC Card reader, VGA, HDMI, ethernet, web cam)

also the Atom N330 is a true dual core with Hyperthreading thats FOUR Logical CPU's in windows/ubuntu, can you say multitasking? FFS i can even run VMWare with 2-3 guest OS's what can this ipad do? does it even have a file browser?

64GB is the absolute most your going to get, that wont even hold half of my photos, my netbook on the other hand can be upgraded to 1TB and it comes with a 250GB out of the box.

i was hoping for apple to come out with something decent and to actually change the playing field, it looks like they failed miserably

the ipad crashed and burned. there are very few people actually wanting this. of all the people i know personally, only ONE is giving it praise, and its also the same person that stood outside in line at 5am just to get his hands on the iPhone when released here in canada, again proving the point about apple fanboys only 'wanting' this.

Steve Jobs' netbook comparison is the worst i've heard from him thus far, i think it tops his complaints about the Rio Karma mp3 player that it had a small screen and tortured display only to reveal the iPod Shuffle with NO screen; and the loyal apple army followed suit and cleared apple store shelves. Its pathetic.
 
the ipad crashed and burned.

Wow, it hasn't even hit the marketplace yet and you're already proclaiming it dead. My money is on your comment crashing and burning. I'm in for one of these on launch day, as is a friend, and my mums will probably be getting one too. And I'm no "launch day fanatic" by any means - I didn't get an iPod until v.3 (with the horrible touch buttons *shudder*).

there are very few people actually wanting this

He says, peering from his all-seeing eye.

Makes one glad Internet forum commenters don't run bajillion dollar tech companies.
 
iPad, jack of all trades.... master of none.

Maybe some people have a use for something between their iphone and their macbook, I unfortunately do not and am therefor not impressed.
 
Nice try, but given netbooks' abysmal customer satisfaction and return rates, it seems it's more than the "rabid apple fanbois" who think netbooks are "crap." It's actual netbook buyers.

But hey, if manufacturers want to keep pumping these things out for razor-thin margins and customers want to keep buying them up (and returning them or cursing them), they can knock themselves out. Not Apple's problem.

I know I'll probably get flamed to hell and back for saying this, but I do think Apple should bring out a $350 or $400 Netbook running Leopard as a platform to give people an actual affordable entry into using OSX. I can run Leopard on my Mini 9 great with 2 gigs of ram -- imagine what Apple could put together for something that could go for that price. This would have the potential to get new customers hooked and then they would be more inclined to go for an iMac or MacBook Pro at some point in the future when they want something faster.
 
I know I'll probably get flamed to hell and back for saying this, but I do think Apple should bring out a $350 or $400 Netbook running Leopard as a platform to give people an actual affordable entry into using OSX. I can run Leopard on my Mini 9 great with 2 gigs of ram -- imagine what Apple could put together for something that could go for that price. This would have the potential to get new customers hooked and then they would be more inclined to go for an iMac or MacBook Pro at some point in the future when they want something faster.

...And cannibalize sales of their MacBooks? Not a likely scenario.
 
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