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You realize you are attempting to make fun of something that was the only Apple/best smartphone on the market 14 months ago, right?

Did you only talk/text 14 months ago when you were likely using a 5s?

1) Yep, and the screen is miniature compared to the smartphone I own today. I hated the tiny screen on the iPhones before the 6 series came out.

2) And no I played games, talked, texted, surfed the web, used FaceTime, used my mobile banking apps for check deposits, transfers, make credit card payments, etc. However the battery life sucked because the little screen also meant little body.
 
I really do not need force touch. Just a smaller device with Apple pay and a newer chip to be able to keep up with the latest software. I think those of us who want a smaller phone are outside an office more and more active. We have bigger phone or iPad or macbook at home or office, so it's more about moving about day in and day out with less bulk.
 
I'm sure there will be some people who crave the smaller iphone. It's funny tho, you'd think petite women would be the main group craving a smaller iphone...and yet I notice more of them going for the current 5.5" iphone 6 plus over the smaller 4.7" iPhone 6.

Probably because it fits in their handbag and an iPad is too big for them.
 
I'm sure there will be some people who crave the smaller iphone. It's funny tho, you'd think petite women would be the main group craving a smaller iphone...and yet I notice more of them going for the current 5.5" iphone 6 plus over the smaller 4.7" iPhone 6.

And you see a grown men craving for that 3.5 and 4.0" device wanting to look like women.
 
Go to any car manufacturer's site and build any car.

Then build it. Add that awesome color you really want (+$1,000). Add navigation (+$1,700). Add leather seating (+$1,200). Add the moonroof (+$1,000). Oh, and don't forget the 19" wheel/tire package (+$2,000). All of a sudden, that car is thousands upon thousands more than the starting MSRP.

Of those options, I would say that only the colour is worth paying for.

Navigation, leather seating, sunroof and big wheels are pointless. Resist the fripperies!
 
Split screen on an iPhone? This will need to come with a toothpick & a magnifying glass. ;) Seriously, though, what for?

I agree... I only put that because many users on this forum are hoping for this feature. Although I admit that using split screen on my Samsung can be really useful sometimes.
 
All we need to do is look at the source of this rumor and realize we can ignore it.

On the other hand, a lower cost iPhone would hit the spot. My 3GS still rocks and I don't really need all the performance of 6S so a slightly slower, smaller model would be great for upgrade time.

lol wut? The source is notoriously accurate.
 
I used a 6.5" screen Xperia Z Ultra for a year but the novelty wore off fast. I now have a $60 4.5" screen android but it is extremely slow and constantly freezes. I was just about to splurge on the 5s but now after hearing this, I will definitely hold out until a new 4 inch iPhone comes out. I would actually prefer a 3.5".
 
Not to try and sound negative, but I believe we'll be in for a disappointment with the 7 models. Looking at the last product keynote in September, I'd say a lot of people could see right through Apple and the fact that they're obviously running out of steam to milk money out of their customers year after year.

Quality control seems to have gone down hill in favor of bigger profits under Tim Cook. I understand the stockholders need to make money off of their share-investment, but it is starting to get ridiculous.

The iPhone 6S came with 3D touch as the main feature, but yet this new feature wasn't introduced on any of the iPads, nor was there an iPad Air 3 released this year. The iPad mini finally caught up with the iPad Air 2's specs from last year. The caulk lines on the new phones are extremely ugly, and so is the protruding camera, heck, the iPhone 6 models are probably the ugliest phones on the market. Why? Because Tim Cook likes to save .01 cent per smartphone shipment and make the phone too thin for its own good.

In addition to the above, the average iPhone buyer doesn't understand the storage capacities as well as we do on here, so they'll get the standard 16 GB storage iPhone. After they buy the phone, they'll go back to the carrier store a week later complaining about how they can't do this and that, and it's because it turns out they do not have enough storage... Trust me, it happens, I saw some older lady complaining about it at the Verizon store about two weeks ago. "Quality? Nah, we'll be 16 GB in the base model and save a couple dollars per phone."

I remember with the iPhone 4's antenna-gate problem, Steve Jobs gave out free bumper cases to the customers to help solve the problem. Tim Cook would just laugh and tell you to deal with it.

Apple is definitely not the same quality company they once were.

Fraid to say, I sadly share your sour outlook.

I wish you were wrong, but I fear that your pessimism is founded. Perhaps we're both being too gloomy; would that it were so.

Steve Jobs was a product man, whereas Tim Cook seems to be a money man. It is at the keynotes where it becomes painfully apparent—there is just no passion from Tim for the products; not real, unmasked passion like Steve showed. It is so sad to see the gaping difference between the two. This is not a criticism of Tim Cook per se; I do not think he can elevate himself to the level of Steve, and that is that. I am glad that he is holding the fort, so to speak, for Apple. But when I know how passionate so many Apple users are for the company and their products, it is hard not to look back at the memory of Steve Jobs and feel wistful for his heartfelt and sincere enthusiasm.
 
no thanks....
I want a full RGB matrix. Leave PenTile to Samsung ....


Bloatware on an iPhone ?
BTW, who let your mother buy a 8 Gb iPhone ???

Bloatware... nothing like Android, but all those compulsory apps. For example Apple Watch, News, Wallet, Tips, Voice Memos, Game Centre, Compass...etc.

Who let my mum choose her own phone? I don't think she needs my permission. I moved out of home 20 years ago and mum doesn't need my permission to spend her own hard earned cash. My brother woulda said 'get an android' (he's closer to her). She's wise enough to make her own decisions - it's Apple who mislead her by being uniquely stingy and offering an 8GB phone (that ends up being 2GB).
 
I think this is a very essential product in the iPhone line up. Now that Apple has conquered the top end, this phone may be placed in the mid range to put it directly against the likes of Xiaomi, Huawei etc.,

Apple used to dominate the compact high end market. I think it's currently an under recognized market. Everything old will become new again...
 
Sure, but the A8 is on the Apple TV and iPod Touch, the two devices that seem to have longer life cycle than the rest of iDevices. And considering Apple made apps available for the A8-based Apple TV, I think it's going to be the baseline for 64-bit iDevices for the next few years.

Good points

Still, releasing a "new 5s" with the A8 is a very lateral move from the A7. The A7 is outdated form the perspective of the A8 being a more enhanced design, but the chip sets are very similar and the differences in processing power would mostly be negligible, as they currently are with the 5s and 6/6+.

But I suppose if they include more ram and apple pay, and a high enough clock increase such as was seen with the Mini 4, it could be a justified release from a user perspective. The A8 does offer some enhancements from the A7, however incremental they may be. Interesting point re: "A8 seems to be the new A5"

But overall it seems like a waste of Apple's resources to dedicate new production lines to a new early 2016 device that would be slightly more powerful than a late 2013 device unless they stick in an A9 and bring other enhancements such as 2GB ram.

If they release it as an iPhone "6c" though, that could make sense...I could understand making an iPhone 6 internally in a 4" casing, akin to the 5c (polycarbonate), with a similar purpose to what the 5c was in late 2013 and how it replaced the 5. In that sense, one could view the 5s as having been replaced by a 6c as others in this thread have noted and from that perspective I could understand the rationale to replace the 5s and put in an A8 along with the other additional features the 6 brought internally.

I suppose this is all ultimately speculation for now - I will wait and see till early 2016 and see what happens re: a new 4 inch device. No more point in spending effort with further speculation, especially if theres a chance this device may not even formulate.
 
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You should take your phone in and have it looked at and fixed. My 6 has no stuttering or lag. And that's with a lot of apps running. An extra gig of RAM would make absolutely no difference.

Seriously, there's something amiss with your phone. Just bing it in and have it fixed. Easy peasy...

I'm living in Europe now and I bought my phone in California so I can't do that at present. It may also be an issue with my storage getting low, I'm down to about 4GB free out of 64GB. It seems like it's more frequent since installing iOS9, but I'm not sure.
 
Ha, the excitement of that cat-and-mouse game we can play with hardware & software makers, with them trying to push us to upgrade as quick as possible, while we try to resist and hold on to the "old" gadgets for as long as they last.
Apple seduces you into upgrading. It's a cat-and-mouse game with a sexy cat.
I also still use an original 2006 MacBook with Snow Leopard on it, the latest system it supports.
And that's another 32-bit device you bought just before the 64-bit version came out. Some of the Core2Duo MacBooks from 2008 and 9 who shipped with OS X 10.5 Leopard still support the latest version of OS X 10.11 El Capitan today. That's tremendous value in feature updates. Just when your battery starts to lose capacity, Mavericks gives you one hour more battery life. Like with no other company, Apple products become better while you own them. Apple doesn't push you to a new device, they pull you into their world.
 
I just upgraded, and in less than half a year a new version. Noooooo :D
Oh well, in 3 or 4 years from now I will be ready for an upgrade.
First! New iMac :)
 
I don't see Apple being kind enough to give plus users an extra gig of RAM ...

6 / 6+ : 1 GB RAM ...
6s / 6s+ : 2 GB RAM ...

7: 2 GB RAM / 7+: 3 GB RAM ... not very likely.
 
And you see a grown men craving for that 3.5 and 4.0" device wanting to look like women.

What are you insecure about others wanting a smaller phone or something? Is it personally offensive to you to the extent you have to mock people?

How hard is it to understand that different sizes work for different people? Its got nothing to do with masculinity. How is wanting to use a phone one handed a bad thing? Thats a pretty degrading/sexist statement.
 
Not sure about the A9 in this "small" iPhone, as the lineup will be weird with the iPhone 6 + A8 in the middle.
I think if Apple would release one, it would come with an A8 with 1GB RAM. I mean Apple already did it, i.e. the 6th gen iPod Touch. Same panel, just making it into an iPhone.

I feel the A8 is going to be the new A5. right now it is the most widely use Ax chip after the A5. It is in the iPod Touch, Apple TV, iPad mini 4, iPhone 6.

Yes, but the mini 4 and tv4 have 2gb, just like the air2 and 6s.
Mt guess is the same 2gb a8 soc as in the mini4 and tv4. The iPod touch is not a very important device for Apple.
 
iPhone 7 will have a physical home/touchid button, for the more conservative users.
iPhone 7+ won' t. it will use a more advanced 3D Touch as a home button. Will have a bigger screen but will be slightly wider en bigger than de reg. iPhone 7. These will be for android switchers and more open /progressive minded Apple users.
They will continue this with the 7s and 7s+.
And when everyone gets more and more used to it. The will release both the 8 and 8+ without a physical home button/touchid.
 
Sign me up for 4" phone with iPhone 6\6s specs.
Me too!

I was thinking to upgrade my 4s with used 5s, but now i'll wait and see whats coming.
I used to buy a new iPhone every year. I skipped the iPhone 5 because I didn't want a larger a phone. I bought an iPhone 5S despite the excessive size, to get the features. I'm glad I did and I'm still using that 5S. No way in hell am I going to buy a phablet like the iPhone 6 or 6S.

I remember when mobile phones were huge (in the 1980s) and everyone was smart enough to want a smaller phone.
 
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