EricNau said:
I doubt it either, but Apple's crafty. Many never thought they'd release a new iPod so soon after the nano's release.
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I doubt it either, but Apple's crafty. Many never thought they'd release a new iPod so soon after the nano's release.
This is true, However, I thought they might because Apple knows Someone will either buy a Nano, if they don't have too many songs, and like the small size, or they'll buy and iPod because they need the extra Gigs. They are like 2 totally differernt products. (look at how many people bought the Mini, even though the iPod was only $50 away)Whyren said:
And, Apple needed to take care of that Video mp3 player market share ASAP
Montserrat said:
Dude... you OBVIOUSLY have no CLUE how to manipulate the kitty
Your angst over her possibly having a faster machine than yours is EXACTLY why you should buy her the Powerbook.
THEN, my oh-so-clueless friend, when it comes time to really upgrade yours... and the wife/girlfriend/etc. says "Why do you need one? Don't you have a computer..."
You can look her dead in the eyes, and say... "Honey... I need a machine that will do x, y, z, whatever... and I mean, hey... even YOUR machine is newer/better/faster than the POS I'm working with over here"
hehehehe
Mac_Freak said:
I recall that the PowerBook G3 was black. Not really a "light neutral color." Given that the PowerBook "look" with change with the first Intel version, I don't see why Apple would change the structure or look of the current model this late in the game. The iBook might go black, but its a consumer product (and plastic) anyway so its no big deal. The Pro line will be in a holding pattern until the Intel stuff has a firm footing.
StkhlmSyndrm23 said:And good bye to InDesign, InCopy and all the other Mac applications Adobe makes. I interned over the summer at a certain college newspaper of high-repute...let's just say the school starts with an H...and without the ability to cross-platform swap artciles from InCopy on Windows PC's used for editing and writing, etc., seamlessly to the Mac's using InDesign for lay-out...it'd be out of business.
Adobe would be a huge loss for the Mac community. Perhaps Apple could make a better photo software package in about five years of development... but there would be no cross-platform counterpart. Which would mean an awful lot of things would be switching over to Windows in the long-term.
And I can tell you given a choice between doing design on a Dell or a G5 with a 23-inch cinema display... there is no comparison. And without Adobe it would be happening on a Dell.
Yes. No Adobe = game over for the professional Macs and probably Apple as a computer company.
iQuit said:
It could happen if Apple changes its business practices. They they keep with the current proprietary practices and premium, ten is a stretch.
iSight for everyone?
Something has been bothering me about the new iMacs. If Apple, by virtue of putting an iSight into their consumer line of desktops, wants to encourage the proliferation of web cams, then they must has some purpose for doing so. What that end is, I don't have a clue. Anyway, if the iMacs have the iSight, then eventually the PowerMacs should get them too (it seems only fair). This means the Apple Displays should get built in iSights too. At this point, if all the desktops have iSights (the Mac mini would be assumed to be used with an Apple Display) then the only reason for the separate iSight would be for laptops, where it wouldn't fit anyways (this was discussed earlier). Apple might then release a new iSight with a smaller form factor to encourage laptop use (they seem to have done a good job of shrinking it already).
So what would be a "Pro" use of a built-in camera? Possibly to give the computer a sense for the ambient lighting conditions so it could adjust its color response accordingly (and in real time). Or it could just be to spread the use of iChat AV. Who knows for sure.
Something has been bothering me about the new iMacs. If Apple, by virtue of putting an iSight into their consumer line of desktops, wants to encourage the proliferation of web cams, then they must has some purpose for doing so. What that end is, I don't have a clue. Anyway, if the iMacs have the iSight, then eventually the PowerMacs should get them too (it seems only fair). This means the Apple Displays should get built in iSights too. At this point, if all the desktops have iSights (the Mac mini would be assumed to be used with an Apple Display) then the only reason for the separate iSight would be for laptops, where it wouldn't fit anyways (this was discussed earlier). Apple might then release a new iSight with a smaller form factor to encourage laptop use (they seem to have done a good job of shrinking it already).
So what would be a "Pro" use of a built-in camera? Possibly to give the computer a sense for the ambient lighting conditions so it could adjust its color response accordingly (and in real time). Or it could just be to spread the use of iChat AV. Who knows for sure.
Does anyone agree? If apple put the simplicity and enthusiasm as they do in the iPod commericials into a commercial about Tiger and or about there computers, they would sell great? Does anyone know why they are stupid enough not to make commericials for there computers? If they mention the reliability,easyness,and elegance of having a Mac a lot of people would buy one. Most people I know have NO idea what Macintosh is.
Though I had an inkling new PBs would come out this week my dad refused to wait any longer to buy my graduation present...and here I sit, in my dorm room, typing to you all on my new 15" 1.67GHz PB. It's beautiful and even though Apple'll come out with new ones (presumably) on wednesday, I'm sure I can put it on eBay and get just as much as I paid for it. Yay for new PowerBooks! I knew you could do it, Apple!
i sure as hell hope that "inovations" ARE NOT pb & g5 tower updates.
thats no inovation thats an update
thats no inovation thats an update
speleoterra said:
Ooh, good point. They must have something significant to use that kind of wording. If it was purely speed bump they probably wouldn't hold an event for it. However, there could just be major "innovations" for the PM's. I sure as hell hope they at least update the PB's to 7448's. Anything less than that still leaves them behind where they should be.
...damn you for getting my hopes even higher
Are there any further confirmations on this event then the macworld.com news ?
The Appleinsider and macrumors announcements seem to rely only on macworld, I haven't heard from any other site, that got an invitation by now;
neither has there been any scan of the invitation (like there has been very soon when the "one more thing" event was known) nor a real conformation by apple ?!?
Or did I just miss that ?
The Appleinsider and macrumors announcements seem to rely only on macworld, I haven't heard from any other site, that got an invitation by now;
neither has there been any scan of the invitation (like there has been very soon when the "one more thing" event was known) nor a real conformation by apple ?!?
Or did I just miss that ?
Ok, it's late and the thread is long enough already. Just was wondering what someone mentioned about laptops having integrated cameras.
I think Apple would probably wait until the PowerBooks next major revision for them to have integrated cameras.
I think the iMac is just an exception, as a response to the "multimedia" device everybody was asking for. Except that many were expecting a mac mini-like device, Apple rather decided they'd just put a new app (Front Row) into their awesome G5 computer with 17" screen, to achieve this device. And they would include a built-in camera for standard video conferencing. The only thing that's missing now is a standard video-in device so you could use the iMac as a display. I wonder why Apple doesn't do this? (Except for the fact that a 20" Apple display costs $799 whereas a 20" iMac costs $1699, meaning the CPU part costs about $900 ).
My point is if PowerBook updates are to include a camera, they'd probably just include the iSight (the current one) and the photobooth app with them. They'd probably want to wait at least for the next major revision (Intel) of PowerBooks to include an integrated camera, IMO.
I think Apple would probably wait until the PowerBooks next major revision for them to have integrated cameras.
I think the iMac is just an exception, as a response to the "multimedia" device everybody was asking for. Except that many were expecting a mac mini-like device, Apple rather decided they'd just put a new app (Front Row) into their awesome G5 computer with 17" screen, to achieve this device. And they would include a built-in camera for standard video conferencing. The only thing that's missing now is a standard video-in device so you could use the iMac as a display. I wonder why Apple doesn't do this? (Except for the fact that a 20" Apple display costs $799 whereas a 20" iMac costs $1699, meaning the CPU part costs about $900
). My point is if PowerBook updates are to include a camera, they'd probably just include the iSight (the current one) and the photobooth app with them. They'd probably want to wait at least for the next major revision (Intel) of PowerBooks to include an integrated camera, IMO.
There's more to the iMac than the CPU and the monitoroskar said:(Except for the fact that a 20" Apple display costs $799 whereas a 20" iMac costs $1699, meaning the CPU part costs about $900
.I don't think Apple would ever integrate a camera into any of their pro computers...I mean sure they can get away with it on the consumer products (People think "Hey, cool! Now I can videoconference without having to buy a new camera!") but it wouldn't fly on pro machines. Pro user woulod probably think "What on Earth is that...I have my own expensive pro camera I don't need that there...". Apple can't compete with deep-rooted pro camera manufacturers (Canon, Nikon etc) that have existing deep-rooted loyal existing customer bases just as Apple can't compete with Adobe for image editing software. Apple won't mess with an industry standard like Adobe, why would they try to sell {nonpro} cameras in pro machines? Machines who are being bought by people who {probably} have their own expensive, pro cameras? I don't think we'll see iSight cameras on PBs or PMs any time in the future...
oskar said:Ok, it's late and the thread is long enough already. Just was wondering what someone mentioned about laptops having integrated cameras.
The only thing that's missing now is a standard video-in device so you could use the iMac as a display. I wonder why Apple doesn't do this? (Except for the fact that a 20" Apple display costs $799 whereas a 20" iMac costs $1699, meaning the CPU part costs about $900
My point is if PowerBook updates are to include a camera, they'd probably just include the iSight (the current one) and the photobooth app with them. They'd probably want to wait at least for the next major revision (Intel) of PowerBooks to include an integrated camera, IMO.
Well, all this talk on built-in cameras is getting me thinking !
This could be Apple's bid to gain world domination on instant messaging.
Imagine, all PowerBooks, iMacs, Apple Displays with built in iSight, Video Conferencing out of the box. All of us seeing each other, capture that video conference, video emails, sync with your new Video iPod and then watch your video messages on the move.
WOW, now that would be great, Video Messages on the Move
The colour thing will make people buy another iPod
Well, just needed to add another comment regarding the colour.
A lot of users just buying an iPod fell into two categories.
One: Users buying black, cos it was different and looked so cool.
Two: Users buying classic white, due to it matching their Apple kit better.
Now imagine all those who bought White and now Apple announce Black PowerBooks and PowerMacs. Well, I guess a lot of users may be scrambling to change their orders and those with bags of money buying another Black iPod just so it matches.
Food for thought
Well, just needed to add another comment regarding the colour.
A lot of users just buying an iPod fell into two categories.
One: Users buying black, cos it was different and looked so cool.
Two: Users buying classic white, due to it matching their Apple kit better.
Now imagine all those who bought White and now Apple announce Black PowerBooks and PowerMacs. Well, I guess a lot of users may be scrambling to change their orders and those with bags of money buying another Black iPod just so it matches.
Food for thought
emac gone?
Just notice that on the US site, when you go to the imac page (www.apple.com/imac) at the top where it says Choose a mac: there is no longer an emac button? Is this the end of the all in one cheapie?
PS Seems to still be there on the UK site.
Just notice that on the US site, when you go to the imac page (www.apple.com/imac) at the top where it says Choose a mac: there is no longer an emac button? Is this the end of the all in one cheapie?
PS Seems to still be there on the UK site.
LOLnagromme said:We're on MacRumors on Saturday night and you think we have girlfriends?
Back on topic...
I saw Steve's "iPods for the holidays sans Shuffle" slide the other day, and my first thought was that the Shuffle would look like a fugly cousin next to the new kids on the block. My hunch is that Apple won't update it at all; the price may drop, the stock will slowly disappear and that'll be the end of it. A lot's changed in the nine+ months since we first saw the Shuttle, and I think it served its purpose.
As for a Photoshop killer as many others have said, it would be stupid in the extreme for Apple to piss off Adobe. However, having followed Apple for over a decade, I've never known them to be as confident as they are right now some might say arrogant and that can be dangerous. My gut feeling is that Photo Pro will be primarily focused on asset management, but it will have filters that exploit Core Image (which Adobe have said they won't use).
From Adobe's perspective you have to remember that a significant part of their profit comes from Mac sales. They're unlikely to suddenly pull Indesign, Illustrator, Photoshop etc., ultimately they're answerable to their shareholders. Also, competition is good, and a large chunk of that disappeared with the acquisition of Macromedia. Microsoft recently announced a slew of graphics software and there are numerous photo manipulation tools available for Windows (so I'm told). How many serious contenders are there on the Mac? Gimp..... Graphic Converter.......
I've used Photoshop since V2.5 and after years of rapid development I feel it's stagnated a bit. Maybe there's nothing left to add which is why they've started adding spell checkers and the like. I personally would quite like Apple to fire a warning shot across the bows; not a fully blown Photoshop, just something that says to Adobe, "Hey, we can do this stuff and innovate at the same time now you do the same". We'll see.
