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PBs

I think the most realistic expectation for the PB's would be to the 7448. They should have been close to swappable, enough so that Apple wouldn't need to invest too much effort on the upgrade.

There is attractiveness in the efficient chip - I'd bet enough to at least give the PB's a passing grade. That and a high res screen would sell a few PB's for those too antsy not to wait for Yonah.

What I wonder about is if there is a form factor change in these updates, will that be the form factor we see with Intel Macs? I think it would make sense to get the new form factor out now and work the kinks out so the Intel Macs can hit the ground running.

And if they do change the form factor, just how sexy might that be? Could you imagine a gloss black pb?
 
aljawad said:
other that an updated iPod Shuffle which will probably be the size of a dime?
:D
You jest but don't know how true it is. This, exactly, was discussed around music industry tables during the 80's and 90's. "One day you'll carry a hundred songs in your pocket on a player the size of a dime." you would hear. At that time all we could come up with was the DAT and the mini-disc; admitedly a lack of wow and artist support compared to the iPod.

Interesting idea, a black powerbook. Wasn't this already done? A special edition or something? Then again, the plastic look is taken by the iBook and it would be a step down from titanium and aluminum
 
Detlev said:
You jest but don't know how true it is. This, exactly, was discussed around music industry tables during the 80's and 90's. "One day you'll carry a hundred songs in your pocket on a player the size of a dime." you would hear. At that time all we could come up with was the DAT and the mini-disc; admitedly a lack of wow and artist support compared to the iPod.

Interesting idea, a black powerbook. Wasn't this already done? A special edition or something? Then again, the plastic look is taken by the iBook and it would be a step down from titanium and aluminum

ColorWare can already Paint Black Alu Books. Couldn't be too difficult for Apple to do it.
 
AtHomeBoy_2000 said:
Why would Apple try to take on Photoshop?


because adobe has started releasing windows updates to photoshop ahead of apple one's windows is their priority .
Apple have a photoshop killer and we are about to see it good bye adobe ....

:D
 
ardos said:
because adobe has started releasing windows updates to photoshop ahead of apple one's windows is their priority .
Apple have a photoshop killer and we are about to see it good bye adobe ....

:D

That would be ironic then since the CEO of Adobe was at the WWDC Keynote saying Adobe would be the first company on-board to develop and release "Intel apps" for Apple for it's transition. Not saying it won't happen, but I think there is room for Apple to introduce a Pro version of iPhoto without it being a direct competitor to Photoshop. :cool:
 
ardos said:
because adobe has started releasing windows updates to photoshop ahead of apple one's windows is their priority .
Apple have a photoshop killer and we are about to see it good bye adobe ....

:D

And good bye to InDesign, InCopy and all the other Mac applications Adobe makes. I interned over the summer at a certain college newspaper of high-repute...let's just say the school starts with an H...and without the ability to cross-platform swap artciles from InCopy on Windows PC's used for editing and writing, etc., seamlessly to the Mac's using InDesign for lay-out...it'd be out of business.

Adobe would be a huge loss for the Mac community. Perhaps Apple could make a better photo software package in about five years of development... but there would be no cross-platform counterpart. Which would mean an awful lot of things would be switching over to Windows in the long-term.

And I can tell you given a choice between doing design on a Dell or a G5 with a 23-inch cinema display... there is no comparison. And without Adobe it would be happening on a Dell. :(
 
freiheit said:
overstock.com is listing the 1GB Apple iPod Shuffle for $119 USD. Overstock.com is known for helping companies to clear out inventory on discontinued products. Farfetched as it may be, could Apple have another iPod announcement coming on October 19?

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1678305

2 iPod announcements in 2 weeks, and 3 in the span of a short amount of time, (the nano)? I really doubt it, but hey, I didn't see the iMac update coming either... ;)

I think in this instance though, Apple has so much else that needs updating, they'll have their hands full with those for now - PowerMacs, PowerBooks, Displays... I see these updates coming first...
 
You know what my wish is...to see Macs in at least 50% of all computer owners homes. Think it will ever happen? Maybe the Intel switch can make it more possible....but the computer wars were over long ago. Just I Luv Mac.
 
ardos said:
because adobe has started releasing windows updates to photoshop ahead of apple one's windows is their priority .
Apple have a photoshop killer and we are about to see it good bye adobe ....:D

This would be extremely stupid. Adobe is Apple's number one 3rd party software developer. The only reason that Apple didn't go under in the 90's was the strength of Adobe's applications on the mac and their popularity with pro designers, artists, etc.

There is room for Apple to release a pro iPhoto type application. But if Apple were to make a Photoshop like application, and lose Adobe products on the Mac. Apple can kiss their computer part of the business goodbye and just start designing electronic appliances like the ipod.
 
Adobe

Adobe and video editing is pretty much all Macs have running for them, Steve isn't that stupid....but then again he is making an Intel switch.
 
iQuit said:
You know what my wish is...to see Macs in at least 50% of all computer owners homes. Think it will ever happen? Maybe the Intel switch can make it more possible....but the computer wars were over long ago. Just I Luv Mac.
Funny, I've been thinking lately that I'd like Apple's market share to grow to about 10% at most. Big enough that most companies will have Mac and Windows versions of all major software titles, but small enough that Macs aren't targeted by viruses, spyware and the other bad things that make Windows less pleasant to use. We get certain advantages from being such a small part of the market, and I like that. Of course, it would be great to have Mac OS in more offices--I just switched to a workplace that uses Macs, and it's been really nice.
 
digitalbiker said:
There is room for Apple to release a pro iPhoto type application. But if Apple were to make a Photoshop like application, and lose Adobe products on the Mac. Apple can kiss their computer part of the business goodbye and just start designing electronic appliances like the ipod.

Photoshop Elements 4.0 for the Mac hasn't been released even though the Windows version has been released already. The big improvements in Elements 4 are in the "Organizer", which is the iPhoto-like portion of the program.

So you're probably right in that a pro iPhoto type application will be released by Apple next week. It'll probably work tightly with Photoshop Elements 4 (and, presumably, PS CS 2).

Odd that it would be released before a pro photo conference, though. A pro iPhoto app isn't *that* interesting to photo pros . . . or is it? :confused:
 
freiheit said:
overstock.com is listing the 1GB Apple iPod Shuffle for $119 USD. Overstock.com is known for helping companies to clear out inventory on discontinued products. Farfetched as it may be, could Apple have another iPod announcement coming on October 19?

http://www.overstock.com/cgi-bin/d2.cgi?page=proframe&prod_id=1678305

I suppose it would make a lot of sense to update the Shuffle in the near future... it's approaching a year old, flash memory has gotten cheaper, and with an update the entire iPod line would be ready for the holidays.

BTW did anyone notice in last weeks Keynote that when Steve mentioned they had a great holidy line up of iPods...the nano and the video iPod...he conspiculously omitted the Shuffle? There was a slide as he was saying this of just the nano and the new iPod 30/60.

EDIT: Although...a new shuffle would probably be 1 and 2GB and that would necessitate the nano bumping up to 4 and 8GB which I don't imagine it doing any time soon.
 
Any black or very dark frame around a LCD screen will prevent any chance of getting a TCO03 approval. They have to be white or very brigth color in order to maximize contrast. We dont see TCO-approval stickers on Macs, but then again we dont see any stickers. I doubt Apple will release a black laptop due to TCO-issues...
 
922 said:
The product page was pulled later that day.
ThinkSecret blew this one, the survey with the imaginary Apple product (and imaginary versions of real Microsoft and Adobe products) is still up.

http://www.gmi-mr.com/se_images/203319-101.HTML (change the number after the hyphen and poke around for other permutations).

This kind of stuff is pretty routine with surveys, focus groups etc. In part it's a way to gauge brand name recognition.
 
rjc said:
Funny, I've been thinking lately that I'd like Apple's market share to grow to about 10% at most. Big enough that most companies will have Mac and Windows versions of all major software titles, but small enough that Macs aren't targeted by viruses, spyware and the other bad things that make Windows less pleasant to use. We get certain advantages from being such a small part of the market, and I like that. Of course, it would be great to have Mac OS in more offices--I just switched to a workplace that uses Macs, and it's been really nice.
One side of me would want to to grow to be atleast 50%, but the otherside of me says that could ruin my favorate part of Macs, no viruses!
Lets pretend, for a minute, that Apple and Microsoft were to switch places, and Apple had 95% market share, would Apple get as many virues as Winodws, or is the Mac OS really better and still wouldn't get any (or atleast not as many as windows). I guess we may never know...
 
ncoffey said:
I agree with what you've said here. The only technical detail I would mention is Rosettas translation capabilities do not, from what I understand (and I may be wrong), extend to Altivec. I'm not sure what happens for any software that requires a G4/G5 with Altivec to run. I can't stress enough that I could be completely out to lunch on this one, and I don't know of any technical reasons that Altivec couldn't be software emulated, albeit at a very slow pace.
Those apps won't run at all in Rosetta. (Lack of AltiVec is why Rosetta is only for apps that are G3-compatible.) But MOST apps ARE G3-compatible: they CAN use AltiVec but don't demand it. Others could be patched to make them not depend on AltiVec. It wouldn't be for performance, but it would at least make the app run on Rosetta. Also, some apps that use AltiVec do so by accessing OS functions, and those are not a problem. It's AltiVec-dependent code IN the app that matters, as I understand it.

I don't know why Rosetta doesn't emulate AltiVec--presumably it would be SO slow as to border on useless, or else it's just not something Transmeta is willing to pursue.


Loke said:
Any black or very dark frame around a LCD screen will prevent any chance of getting a TCO03 approval. They have to be white or very brigth color in order to maximize contrast. We dont see TCO-approval stickers on Macs, but then again we dont see any stickers. I doubt Apple will release a black laptop due to TCO-issues...
How bizarre, if true. Who cares if there's contrast between the screen... and the frame? And black WOULD have contrast against the whites, grays and colors of apps... except when you have your display turned off...
 
StkhlmSyndrm23 said:
I suppose it would make a lot of sense to update the Shuffle in the near future... it's approaching a year old, flash memory has gotten cheaper, and with an update the entire iPod line would be ready for the holidays.

BTW did anyone notice in last weeks Keynote that when Steve mentioned they had a great holidy line up of iPods...the nano and the video iPod...he conspiculously omitted the Shuffle? There was a slide as he was saying this of just the nano and the new iPod 30/60.

EDIT: Although...a new shuffle would probably be 1 and 2GB and that would necessitate the nano bumping up to 4 and 8GB which I don't imagine it doing any time soon.


Why couldn't they do a 512 shuffle @ $69.00 and 1 GB @ $99? And maybe even a 2 GB @ $129.00 There is still a good market for the shuffle, albeit a little difficult right now when for $70 more you can get a 2 GB with color screen. I myself would own a shuffle for $69 or $99 just for carrying on the job sites, in the pocket to do data transfers and for places I wouldn't care so much if I damaged it or lost it.

How about the rest of you guys? Would you add a shuffle to your personal line-up if it was cheaper???
 
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