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Apple Press Event October 19 Confirmed

Silverrr said:
u can just see Steve Jobs walks onto the stage and say, "well, you know how we said June 2006 for Intel chips? Well, guess what, they are here now..."
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922 said:
I would agree with you. But Developers wouldn't. Apple told them 2006.
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No, the LGJ said "by WWDC '06", not "at WWDC '06".

Apple is telling developers to program for the Dothan chips that are now available. The developers aren't being told to wait for Yonah around the end of this year, let alone any chips due the middle of 2006.. I take that as a signal that we'll see MacIntels pretty soon....

For the low-end consumer (MiniMac/iBook) Apple could release MacIntels as soon as the O/S is stable and the iLife suite is native. That's all a majority of the entry consumers will need, and Rosetta will be good enough for the odd program that's not a Fat Binary.

Having MacIntels on the shelves would be a great "kick in the pants" to get the developers to finish their fat binary ports - because there would be a market for the dual-platform programs.

In the "chicken-egg" problem of architectural transitions, you always need the hardware/OS to lead the 3rd party developers. Did Apple hold off the 68k -> PPC transition until all the developers were on board? Did Apple hold off on OSX until all the 3rd parties were ready? No, and no.

There's also the fact that a cheap MiniMacIntel would give small developers a much cheaper machine to test their fat binaries on....
 
Atlantis said:
I love to buy a new powermac dual-core mac but I'm very worried about software for it We will have fat Apps for them but have long will this last?
5 or 10 years from now> It has taken me very long time to save money to buy a powermac with a LCD monitor. In Australia a powermac 2.3 w 1gb , 400gb HD, ATI 850xt , Apple 20" LCD , Modem, = AUS $ 6,411.99. as you can see it is very expenive so I do not want to find myself without software. if software was around for 10 years then thats fine. The mac i have now is imac 233hz , 256mb with 10.3.9 bit slow ok. I can not aford a new mac in 18 months when the mactel macs came into market Now i need the power of a powermac not a g5 imac. What do you think about software for ppc mac???

please help me in this buying choice??

Alantis
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I hear ya and it's a reasonable question but a 10 year timeframe is not reasonable. Look back 10 years right now: what was the platform, company and software landscape then. Compare that to now.
 
Pink Nano

I know it's not what a lot of you want to hear, but Apple will release a pink Nano this week. I don't know anything about Powermacs and Powerbooks.

My guess is they want to release something that will interest the mainstream media, so they would include something like "Apple also showcased their new pro systems etc." in the article.
 
Last Tuesday event was for consumer based products. Any pink Nano would have been released then.

The 19th Oct event is for the pro-sumer. Apple will not announce any iPods or any other consumer related products, only additions to the Pro range.

There are two distinct events for two product ranges. Apple will not mix.


Guigue said:
I know it's not what a lot of you want to hear, but Apple will release a pink Nano this week. I don't know anything about Powermacs and Powerbooks.

My guess is they want to release something that will interest the mainstream media, so they would include something like "Apple also showcased their new pro systems etc." in the article.
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~Shard~ said:
Not going to happen. There will be no Intel chips until 2006.
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True! I still think they will wait for Merom. It only makes sense, the chip will be groundbreaking. But it is scheduled to launch with the Napa platform in early 2006. Why wouldn't Apple wait for that?
 
All this talk about new PMs or PBs on Wednesday are nonsense. Only one product will be showcased on Wed:

It's a new "Pro" version of the 'Mighty Mouse' called the 'Mighty Capybara'. It has many built-in features including:
- Wireless (Bluetooth)
- GPS aided laser tracking of the desk surface compensates for "level" irregularities/inaccuracies inherent in the foundations of all buildings and furniture
- iSight
- Firmware uses iSight to analyze your hand and advice about general palm/finger health, including special "Impending Callus Alarm"
- 2 GB audio player (really a built-in "Shuffle")
- Retractable knife, file, scissors, screwdriver (now, this really ROCKS!!)
- Built-in wine/beer bottle opener to get the party started
- Flash card reader w/enctyption to keep those "special" wife/gf pictures you took during the party safe
- Voice recorder so you can record and later play back the password you used to encrypt the wife/gf pics. while you were drunk
- Built-in breathalyzer enables the voice recorder automatically
- WiFi detector to help you find the nearest 'Starbucks' to help you wake up the next day
- Clock/alarm synchronized to the atomic clock to help get you to work on time
- NTN 'Buzztime' wireless compatibility so you can use it to play electronic trivia games at your local pub while you suck down a <beer of choice> and explore the endless possibilities in Apple's next "invitation only media event."

Truly a "lifestyle" device!! :)

Seriously though, if they did release new PMs (2 x dual core, as rumored) I might have a hard time resisting the upgrade. I have been talking myself into waiting "a little longer" ever since the Intel switch became public. You know . . . "my PM still gets the job done and it's only one more year ..."

If they maintain (or beat) present pricing, I would be VERY tempted. I mean, it's not like PPC native software is going to disappear overnight.
 
don't get the dual 2.3, unless....

Atlantis said:
I love to buy a new powermac dual-core mac but I'm very worried about software for it We will have fat Apps for them but have long will this last?
5 or 10 years from now>

What do you think about software for ppc mac???
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Wow, expecting a computer to be useful for 5 to 10 years is really a stretch. There will be so many changes by then that you'll feel left out, like I'm sure you feel now with your Bondi iMac. You can get the software for it, but there's so much that it simply can't do.

In addition to the "continuing support for fat binaries" question that you have, there's another area where things might happen to make you want to join the Intel camp. Three big questions about the MacIntels....
  • Will more Windows-only apps be ported to OSX86, but in x86 binary only? (Apps with lots of x86 optimizations, that until now haven't been made cross-platform)
  • Virtual PC on MacIntel should run very well. Windows apps that currently are not practical on Virtual PC on PPC might be fine on MacIntel.
  • Windows apps can run "native" (without VirtualPC) on Linux through a set of Windows API libraries called WINE. WINE for OSX86 would do the same....

If I were you, I'd consider using just part of your savings to get a MiniMac and monitor. The MiniMac would be far faster than your Bondi iMac, so unless you plan to set up a commercial video production shop there's probably no real reason to get a dual processor 2.3 in one giant leap. In a year or so, you'll have plenty of money to get a high-end MacIntel - and you'll still have the PPC MiniMac for legacy stuff that doesn't run well on Rosetta.

If you're coping with a 233MHz G3 today, I'd question investing all your savings in an end-of-life PPC Mac unless you're going to be doing something drastically different from what you're doing today. A MiniMac would be a huge leap forward in performance, and your "nest egg" would still be there for a high-end machine when you need it.
 
This device would NEVER work in Canada....

It would have to track the nearest... Tim Hortons.

:p




Mr_Ed said:
All this talk about new PMs or PBs on Wednesday are nonsense. Only one product will be showcased on Wed:

It's a new "Pro" version of the 'Mighty Mouse' called the 'Mighty Capybara'. It has many built-in features including:
- WiFi detector to help you find the nearest 'Starbucks' to help you wake up the next day

Truly a "lifestyle" device!! :)
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Stella said:
This device would NEVER work in Canada....

It would have to track the nearest... Tim Hortons.

:p
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Don't worry. It will take longer to get this device in Canada than it took to get the Canadian "iTunes Music Store." Plenty of time for multiple firmware updates. :D
 
Mr_Ed said:
Stella said:
This device would NEVER work in Canada....

It would have to track the nearest... Tim Hortons.

:p
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Don't worry. It will take longer to get this device in Canada than it took to get the Canadian "iTunes Music Store." Plenty of time for multiple firmware updates. :D
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Ah, it's funny cuz it's true... ;)
 
Stella said:
This device would NEVER work in Canada....
It would have to track the nearest... Tim Hortons.
:p
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What if it doesn't have to go very far?
I'm sure it would work fine if you lived in Hamilton!
 
nagromme said:
If a PowerBook had an iSight, they wouldn't make the lens be the first thing that hit. It would be set back enough not to be a problem.

(And possibly part of the latch.)
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This company (and a few others) have 600K or 1.3M pixel comeras in the latch.

http://eurocom.com/products/showroom/specselectnew.cfm?model_id=164

These are really impressive machines. I hope Apple Intels can come close in specs. Also i'd like to see the new pro line compare to this. Here's to wednesday.
 
AidenShaw said:
No, the LGJ said "by WWDC '06", not "at WWDC '06".

Apple is telling developers to program for the Dothan chips that are now available. The developers aren't being told to wait for Yonah around the end of this year, let alone any chips due the middle of 2006.. I take that as a signal that we'll see MacIntels pretty soon....

For the low-end consumer (MiniMac/iBook) Apple could release MacIntels as soon as the O/S is stable and the iLife suite is native. That's all a majority of the entry consumers will need, and Rosetta will be good enough for the odd program that's not a Fat Binary.

Having MacIntels on the shelves would be a great "kick in the pants" to get the developers to finish their fat binary ports - because there would be a market for the dual-platform programs.

In the "chicken-egg" problem of architectural transitions, you always need the hardware/OS to lead the 3rd party developers. Did Apple hold off the 68k -> PPC transition until all the developers were on board? Did Apple hold off on OSX until all the 3rd parties were ready? No, and no.

There's also the fact that a cheap MiniMacIntel would give small developers a much cheaper machine to test their fat binaries on....
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While development kits could be used for porting over the high level stuff. The faster the changeover is done, the better. By WWDC it would be best to have a mature, functioning environment than developer starting on ports when medium and high level equipment is released. An immature environment would kill them in the press.
 
Okay, here's my guess for the PowerMacs.

$2999
2x Dual Core PowerPC 970MP @ 2.5GHz
1MB L2 Cache - 1.25GHz Frontside Bus
1GB DDR2 SDRAM (expandable to 16GB)
250GB Serial ATA
16x SuperDrive dual-layer
Radeon X800 256MB - PCIe 16x

$2499
2x Dual Core PowerPC 970MP @ 2.3GHz
1MB L2 Cache - 1.15GHz Frontside Bus
512MB DDR2 SDRAM (expandable to 16GB)
250GB Serial ATA
16x SuperDrive dual-layer
Radeon X800 128MB - PCIe 16x

$1999
2x Single Core PowerPC 970fx @ 2.3GHz
512kB L2 Cache - 1.15GHz Frontside Bus
512MB DDR400 SDRAM (expandable to 8GB)
160GB Serial ATA
16x SuperDrive dual-layer
Radeon 9600 128MB - AGP 8x

EDIT: All with Mighty Mouse standard. :)
 
hardware is for sure, but how about software:


  • Apple Remote Deskop 3.0. has been a while since the last update to ARD and the current version of ARD do not have any tiger only features, so I think a new version RD will be out soon. the metal brush GUI is gone and replaced by a the New Tiger GUI, as in the System Preferences.
  • Pro Photo Management Software. Core Image is not just there to help developers to do photo editing, apple will release a professional photo editing software and a Media (audio, video, photo, etc) Management Tool that works with Xsan and all other pro-apple tools
  • how about a publish software, a illustrator killer or how about if apple acquires quark!! COOL :D
  • I do not think a update to iLife and iWork will happen on Oct 19, those are for the MWSF '06. during MWSF'06, iLife and iWork '06 will be introduced with a excel-killer app ;)
 
How much would a single dual core (970MP) chip cost Apple? If one of them costs the same as the normal G5 chip I suppose we could see two of these dual core chips in new Powermacs. However, if they are MUCH more expensive they will probably stick to one of them.
 
Stella said:
Last Tuesday event was for consumer based products. Any pink Nano would have been released then.

Apple will not announce any iPods or any other consumer related products, only additions to the Pro range.
There are two distinct events for two product ranges. Apple will not mix.
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Wow, soo much certitude from you, do you have an inside track?
I believe the pink madonapod is coming, but the date will coincide with her new albumn.
 
Apple isn't even waiting for Yonah this fall....

stefan15 said:
True! I still think they will wait for Merom. It only makes sense, the chip will be groundbreaking. But it is scheduled to launch with the Napa platform in early 2006. Why wouldn't Apple wait for that?
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Apple is telling the developers to code for the current Dothan chips - this would be a pretty big mistake if in fact they wait for Merom....

(See https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/1740048/)
 
Reanimation_LP said:
I've seen one of their custom jobs.

Holy f*** was it BEAUTIFUL. It was Carbon. The pictures didnt do it justice. Shiny black with alumnium. :eek: It was HOT!
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OMG, no. As much as I like the shiny blackness, Apple would never do that and then leave all of the ports, keys, and trackpad the old silver. If they did do black though (and completely seamless black) it would be sooo cool. Black keys w/ white backlit letters...mmmm. I don't think they will change from the aluminum on the pro machines though. They use that to seperate the lines of products, and they also need to use a higher quality material than plastic on the pro stuff. Perhaps on future iBooks?
 
Quartz Extreme said:
Okay, here's my guess for the PowerMacs.

$2999
2x Dual Core PowerPC 970MP @ 2.5GHz
1MB L2 Cache - 1.25GHz Frontside Bus
1GB DDR2 SDRAM (expandable to 16GB)
250GB Serial ATA
16x SuperDrive dual-layer
Radeon X800 256MB - PCIe 16x

$2499
2x Dual Core PowerPC 970MP @ 2.3GHz
1MB L2 Cache - 1.15GHz Frontside Bus
512MB DDR2 SDRAM (expandable to 16GB)
250GB Serial ATA
16x SuperDrive dual-layer
Radeon X800 128MB - PCIe 16x

$1999
2x Single Core PowerPC 970fx @ 2.3GHz
512kB L2 Cache - 1.15GHz Frontside Bus
512MB DDR400 SDRAM (expandable to 8GB)
160GB Serial ATA
16x SuperDrive dual-layer
Radeon 9600 128MB - AGP 8x
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It would be nice to have the X800XT as the standard video card for the high-end Power Mac and the X1800XT as an upgrade. I don't think ATI has made a X1800 for Mac yet though.
 
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