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Apple Press Event October 19 Confirmed

nagromme said:
I wouldn't want much higher res on my 15"--small pixels means harder to read text and more eyestrain during long use.

But it's also useful (obviously) so I can see it being nice to have the OPTION.
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You raise an interesting point nagromme. And this is completely true on a windoze machine... (try changing the resolution on a peecee at best buy sometime... AWFUL :eek: )
BUT OSX/Quartz already has features that can make the user interface resolution independant. :D Its called SVG (scalable vector graphics) and its what allows the awesome size change effects on the task bar and with icons. Notice how they are always of an extremely high graphic quality no matter how big they are?

Basicly mathematical equations are used to describe the shapes in the graphic and they are scaled based on these equations. The computer then draws the graphic in an optimal fashion for whatever size is needed on whatever resolution is available.
So if you are used to words that are 1/4 inch high on your screen that is 1280 x 1024 res, you can get words the same size on a screen that is twice the res... the words will just be super high-definition!

Anyways... the more resolution the better! Considering quartz uses SVG we could have desktops that are even more photo-realistic and/or HIGH-DEF with the same level of usability. A win/win situation ;)
 
mongoos150 said:
I've said it before and I'll say it again - built in cameras on pro machines? I think not. Built in cameras are a consumer thing but NOT a pro feature - people in the pro market have their own pro cameras (which Apple couldn't come close to touching). Same reason Apple won't take on PhotoShop.
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The ability to perfom video conference with people on the go?

PB:
- Fewer models to choose from - only 3, 13"/15"/17" widescreen.
- Backlit keyboard on all models - Higher panel resolution
- HD decoding chips enable playback of true HD material on G4 CPU
- X600 PCIe videocards on 15" and 17" models
- DL Superdrive standard on all models
- Built-in iSight
- Increase in CPU bus speed
- DDR2 memory
- Faster harddrive
- Better battery


PM:
- Yes, they will go dual-core (!)
- X800 PCIe videocards standard on all models
- 1024MB DDR2 RAM
- WLAN 802.11g/BT2.0 Standard


10.4.3:
- Released together with updated PB/PM. Weight in at over 100MB.
 
macorama said:
UK Store is down???
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MacSA said:
It IS down :eek: :eek:

Probably some maintenance thing.
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buddyspencer said:
German store is also down...! and not only for the last 1-2 min....
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I forgot what time it was exactly when I checked the Apple US Store and it was down as well. I believe it was around 4AM central, because I had just posted. Probably just maintenance or they're getting ready to update on Wednesday. Funny (or sad :p) how that can't pass unnoticed by us at MacRumors.
 
starfishprime said:
You raise an interesting point nagromme. And this is completely true on a windoze machine... (try changing the resolution on a peecee at best buy sometime... AWFUL :eek: )
BUT OSX/Quartz already has features that can make the user interface resolution independant. :D Its called SVG (scalable vector graphics) and its what allows the awesome size change effects on the task bar and with icons. Notice how they are always of an extremely high graphic quality no matter how big they are?

Basicly mathematical equations are used to describe the shapes in the graphic and they are scaled based on these equations. The computer then draws the graphic in an optimal fashion for whatever size is needed on whatever resolution is available.
So if you are used to words that are 1/4 inch high on your screen that is 1280 x 1024 res, you can get words the same size on a screen that is twice the res... the words will just be super high-definition!

Anyways... the more resolution the better! Considering quartz uses SVG we could have desktops that are even more photo-realistic and/or HIGH-DEF with the same level of usability. A win/win situation ;)
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yeah, I'd heard that, and it sounds awesome and exceedingly smart. A very needed thing if we are to keep increasing screen resolutions, and that's a rewarding thing to do, so we should.

But there are two things I just don't get here. First, if I change the screen resolution on my powerbook, guess what? Sizes still change. Why? is this a feature that's just "not turned on"?

Second, if that's the case, why does apple not ever increase the number of pixels per inch beyond a certain number, and instead prefers to increase screen size? As it stands, apple is using really low res screens, presumably to keep text from shrinking, and also offer some of the largest screens around.

And still, can they make it completely scalable? I mean, say I've got the letter l, and it's, say, two pixels by 10 pixels. So, we could scale it to 4 by twenty, no problem, except we'd have a goofy looking l unless we had really, really high res screens. But what if we haven't quadrupled the number of pixels per screen (see, that's doubling in both directions, and also a kind of nasty thing to do, because dead pixel count goes up, and its' just a lot of pixels), how do we do things? Because you cant scale to two thirds size. You could round in the vertical direction, because nobody will notice between 13 pixels and 14 pixels, but you can't light up one and a third pixels. One makes your letters skinny, two makes them fat, and one third does not exist.

So how are we supposed to use HD unless it's extremely, extremely HD, where we rarely have to bother with things on the width of one pixel.
 
iQuit said:
Is the current PowerMac actually 64 bit? If so then it is the ONLY personal computer that has a 64 bit processor with a 64 bit OS.
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Unfortunately Mac OS X isn't 64bit at all... It just supports that 32-bit applications can call other 64-bit applications to run 64-bit code. That's about it...

groovebuster
 
Loke said:
The ability to perfom video conference with people on the go?

PB:
- Fewer models to choose from - only 3, 13"/15"/17" widescreen.
- Backlit keyboard on all models - Higher panel resolution
- HD decoding chips enable playback of true HD material on G4 CPU
- X600 PCIe videocards on 15" and 17" models
- DL Superdrive standard on all models
- Built-in iSight
- Increase in CPU bus speed
- DDR2 memory
- Faster harddrive
- Better battery


PM:
- Yes, they will go dual-core (!)
- X800 PCIe videocards standard on all models
- 1024MB DDR2 RAM
- WLAN 802.11g/BT2.0 Standard


10.4.3:
- Released together with updated PB/PM. Weight in at over 100MB.
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The video conferencing is definitely a "pro" feature, look at the effort Apple has put into the software to make it all work.

I'm clueless about HD video decoding but is that something that could be performed by a GPU? Given Apple already makes extensive use of the GPU for Quartz etc they must surely know their way around them. Otherwise it isn't something Apple is going to retrofit to the G4 PBs, why spend the time on an end-of-life box.

The rest of your PB predictions I would generally agree with. The FSB increase is likely to be miniscule if any and the jury is still out as to whether the update will even include the new 7448 chip. I can't see the line-up being whittled down to only 3 boxes if that's your intent; there's definitely a requirement for a prosumer to pro range.
 
dontmatter said:
So how are we supposed to use HD unless it's extremely, extremely HD, where we rarely have to bother with things on the width of one pixel.
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Hmm, sounds like this is keeping you up at night. It's not actually that painful. The important thing with an lcd is to use the native resolution for the display, otherwise everything looks crap. Unfortunately until recently the dimensions of a lot of user interface elements have been tied to the screen resolution. Apple is addressing that by removing the dependency so that you can scale the interface regardless of the underlying screen resolution. I guess that may not help you sleep but then that's what Mac Forums is for.
 
Oh to be a fly on the wall at one of these meetings :cool: :D
 

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dontmatter said:
yeah, I'd heard that, and it sounds awesome and exceedingly smart. A very needed thing if we are to keep increasing screen resolutions, and that's a rewarding thing to do, so we should.

But there are two things I just don't get here. First, if I change the screen resolution on my powerbook, guess what? Sizes still change. Why? is this a feature that's just "not turned on"?

Second, if that's the case, why does apple not ever increase the number of pixels per inch beyond a certain number, and instead prefers to increase screen size? As it stands, apple is using really low res screens, presumably to keep text from shrinking, and also offer some of the largest screens around.

And still, can they make it completely scalable? I mean, say I've got the letter l, and it's, say, two pixels by 10 pixels. So, we could scale it to 4 by twenty, no problem, except we'd have a goofy looking l unless we had really, really high res screens. But what if we haven't quadrupled the number of pixels per screen (see, that's doubling in both directions, and also a kind of nasty thing to do, because dead pixel count goes up, and its' just a lot of pixels), how do we do things? Because you cant scale to two thirds size. You could round in the vertical direction, because nobody will notice between 13 pixels and 14 pixels, but you can't light up one and a third pixels. One makes your letters skinny, two makes them fat, and one third does not exist.

So how are we supposed to use HD unless it's extremely, extremely HD, where we rarely have to bother with things on the width of one pixel.
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The problem you are talking about is eliminated by anti-alaising, it sounds like you are using a windows computer?

Additionally full SVG support is supposed to be coming in the next version of OSX, at least thats what i read somewhere. So no, its not "turned on".
 
Loke said:
The ability to perfom video conference with people on the go?

PB:
- Fewer models to choose from - only 3, 13"/15"/17" widescreen.
- Backlit keyboard on all models - Higher panel resolution
- HD decoding chips enable playback of true HD material on G4 CPU
- X600 PCIe videocards on 15" and 17" models
- DL Superdrive standard on all models
- Built-in iSight.
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The display bezel would have to be thicker to support the built-in iSight.
 
Ummm. Not sure if anyone's pointed this link out:
http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/index.cfm?RSS&NewsID=12895

It gives some more detail on the invite
The invitation is in black, and features a camera lens.

It states: "Please join us for a special press conference on the eve of PhotoPlus Expo 2005 as we unveil Apple's latest pro innovations."
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Sounds like photo pro. I don't think the camera lens would mean iSights in powerbooks (although that may happen too...) :)

(Pity they don't have a shot of the invite though...)
 
stefan15 said:
They are sold in just about every OEM dealer now. Keep in mind Intel also makes their 64-bit chip--again which isn't actually 64 bit, it's EM64T, emulated 64 bit. AMD chips on desktop level are also emulated 64 bit.
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Err, the AMD chips are full 64-bit, what the hell are you on about? EM64T isn't emulated either, it is a full 64-bit capable processor, just not as well implemented as AMD's. EM stands for 'Extended Memory', not 'EMulated'.

It isn't as if Mac OS X Tiger in 64-bit mode is entirely 64-bit anyway. I was under the impression that most of it is still 32-bit, and 64-bit functionality is not available to anything that uses a GUI except via some nasty method.
 
Hattig said:
Err, the AMD chips are full 64-bit, what the hell are you on about? EM64T isn't emulated either, it is a full 64-bit capable processor, just not as well implemented as AMD's. EM stands for 'Extended Memory', not 'EMulated'.

It isn't as if Mac OS X Tiger in 64-bit mode is entirely 64-bit anyway. I was under the impression that most of it is still 32-bit, and 64-bit functionality is not available to anything that uses a GUI except via some nasty method.
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OSX is still totally 32-bit. On PPC this is better. If the AppKit was recompiled in 64-bit mode it would get slower! The method of getting 64-bit memory spaces is not that nasty. You simply write all the 64-bit code in a separate executable and start a sub-task. Your main (GUI) task can comunicate with this task over pipes, Cocoa messaging or whatever. Lots of apps have helpers anyway so it's not that much of a hardship. It's not a lot different to starting a separate thread which you would probably want to do anyway.

The EMT-64 stuff above is totally correct. It's an AMD extension to x86 allowing for 64-bit addressing. It also adds some registers to the CPU which x86 is very short of compared to PPC. This is why 64-bit code on the x86 platform is often faster than 32-bit.
 
Hopefully They will say the Intel Macs will be available for christams this year and everyone can be happy :D

But that wont happen...

But If any of you from Apple reads this, You have my Gaurentee on a fully loaded PowerBook if you do... so release them already
 
it may be a bit early for this question but does anyone know whether this event is gonna have live coverage on mrchat ? or anywhere else for that matter.....while i'm on this subject, what irc client does everyone use? (the most popular for mac?) apart from obviously MRchat :)
 
Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0

Don't know if anybody mentioned this already but there is no MAC version of the new Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0 . Does this point to some Photo Software from Apple? This would obviously define what niche they are aiming at versus a fullblown Photoshop replacer.
 
Loke said:
The ability to perfom video conference with people on the go?

PB:
- Fewer models to choose from - only 3, 13"/15"/17" widescreen.
- Backlit keyboard on all models - Higher panel resolution
- HD decoding chips enable playback of true HD material on G4 CPU
- X600 PCIe videocards on 15" and 17" models
- DL Superdrive standard on all models
- Built-in iSight
- Increase in CPU bus speed
- DDR2 memory
- Faster harddrive
- Better battery


PM:
- Yes, they will go dual-core (!)
- X800 PCIe videocards standard on all models
- 1024MB DDR2 RAM
- WLAN 802.11g/BT2.0 Standard


10.4.3:
- Released together with updated PB/PM. Weight in at over 100MB.
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Oh My that would be totally stellar - How could I resist...
wouldn't really caLL that your usual upgrade though

it seems these might just be the paramount of the ppc
 
firebox said:
it may be a bit early for this question but does anyone know whether this event is gonna have live coverage on mrchat ? or anywhere else for that matter.....while i'm on this subject, what irc client does everyone use? (the most popular for mac?) apart from obviously MRchat :)
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Too early to say whether there'll be live coverage like there normally is for the main keynotes, but even if there's not we will no doubt still be discussing updates from other sites if they are providing info, so it'll be sort of live :)

IRC clients have been discussed a few times before, try here
 
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