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Apple Press Event October 19 Confirmed

BenRoethig said:
1. Never

2. The Powerbook is already about as slim and light as you can get with a laptop computer. I take that back, you could skip the graphics card, put a VIA embedded chip in there, and use the hard drive from the iPod, but then it wouldn't be too useful.
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1. Never say never
2. Not sure the powerbook is "as thin and light as you can get with a laptop"

Sony X505 - .8" thick, 1.85 lbs
12" PB - 1.18" , 4.6 lbs
15" PB - 1.1", 5.6 lbs
17" PB - 1", 6.9 lbs

We are not comparing apples to apples (pardon the pun ) but I think there is some room for improvement on the PB side..
 
We need more posts....

Chundles said:
Nowhere near it unfortunately. We have to get to a thousand posts on one subject before it comes true. Only after a thousand posts does Steve log in and look at what we want - except the G5 PowerBook threads, even he's sick of them.
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We are very far away from the number of posts generated by the Dual G5 PM about a year ago... Close to 6000 posts if I remember...
 
Remember...

pjmurphy77 said:
1. Never say never
2. Not sure the powerbook is "as thin and light as you can get with a laptop"

Sony X505 - .8" thick, 1.85 lbs
12" PB - 1.18" , 4.6 lbs
15" PB - 1.1", 5.6 lbs
17" PB - 1", 6.9 lbs

We are not comparing apples to apples (pardon the pun ) but I think there is some room for improvement on the PB side..
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There was one thing you lfet out.. with the Sony's you need that hideous dock to do anything, such as surf, charge your battery, and all those other things. The sony w/o the dock is bare bones, and Apple could do that to if they wanted, they actually like to have real video cards in their machines. Just look at all the options that apple has in their PB and look at compeditors with the same stuff..and they are at least double the size! Go APPLE!
 
I'm ready to buy a new powerbook.. but not anything static performance wise. I want a bumped 2ghz Powerbook with a camera build in!

If the iMac can have it.. so can the Powerbook! :cool:
 
drewyboy said:
There was one thing you lfet out.. with the Sony's you need that hideous dock to do anything, such as surf, charge your battery, and all those other things. The sony w/o the dock is bare bones, and Apple could do that to if they wanted, they actually like to have real video cards in their machines. Just look at all the options that apple has in their PB and look at compeditors with the same stuff..and they are at least double the size! Go APPLE!
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uuhhh.. hence my note.. "not comparing apples to apples". So you are saying there is no room for improvement? Have you seen the shrinking iPod and iMac?
 
pjmurphy77 said:
uuhhh.. hence my note.. "not comparing apples to apples". So you are saying there is no room for improvement? Have you seen the shrinking iPod and iMac?
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Sorry :( missed the apples to apples part... But I will agree with you that they could slim it down a little bit more... but I would have to say not by much, becuase you have the physical size of HD or more so the video card and all the other innerds... so yes i could see in some improvement, but I have to say Apple has done an obsolute amazing job with sliming the size of the PB.

Edit: You can't really use the iMac as a comparison, for the fact it's bigger. Plus the iPod has completely different scale of parts. So i'd have to say the arguement with those products doesn't work to well.
 
Pro innovations?

The only thing missing in Apple's arsenal is a Photoshop like application... They can make it, they must have made it... Will they go head to head with Photoshop?

I would expect improvements on Motion (motion 3?) supported by new pro hardware... The 2.5 dual is old and not performing as fast as the high end PC's

Michel
 
just wanted to add that this event is most definitely the place where new powerbooks are presented. our university has a program twice a year where students can buy apple and ibm laptops at reduced prices. that program("neptun") has started today, but when you click on the link for the apple store, there's just this page:
neptun apple store
notice the "please check back in three to four days"...

[e] spelling
 
Im thinking the X1800 card from ATI will be an option

Do you think a new Dual Dual 2.5 will finally have respectable frame rates in todays games?
Butts
 
aussiemac86 said:
Nah not close, I can remember a thread about the Rev B PM G5's (dual 2.5GHz top-end) when we were all waiting for ours to ship that went well over 5000 posts (6197 in fact). I'm sure there have been longer as well.
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too bad only about 20 posts were on topic.
 
They can't take on Photoshop - they nearly lost Adobe after Final Cut Pro eliminated the need for Premiere, if that almost cost them everything then how on earth would they react to them cutting into arguable their most popular product (apart from maybe Acrobat and Illustrator)? Without PS, Apple would most likely have been dead in the water by now. Surely they can't spit in their face like that again.

Exactly how long has it been since updates to the PMs and PBs?
 
noht* said:
just wanted to add that this event is most definitely the place where new powerbooks are presented. our university has a program twice a year where students can buy apple and ibm laptops at reduced prices. that program("neptun") has started today, but when you click on the link for the apple store, there's just this page:
neptun apple store
notice the "please check back in three to four days"...
[e] spelling
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I noticed the parent page still lists the current powerbook configuration, along with the usual disclaimer about changes to the configuration/price without previous notice...
 
ca_graphics said:
I'm ready to buy a new powerbook.. but not anything static performance wise. I want a bumped 2ghz Powerbook with a camera build in!

If the iMac can have it.. so can the Powerbook! :cool:
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You may very well get your wish on Wednesday the 19th. The built in camera is most likely. Hope that you will be happy, have a credit card ready?
 
starfishprime said:
You raise an interesting point nagromme. And this is completely true on a windoze machine... (try changing the resolution on a peecee at best buy sometime... AWFUL :eek: )
BUT OSX/Quartz already has features that can make the user interface resolution independant. :D Its called SVG (scalable vector graphics) and its what allows the awesome size change effects on the task bar and with icons. Notice how they are always of an extremely high graphic quality no matter how big they are?
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That WILL (future tense) be fantastic. Right now, SOME elements of OS X are now scalable (Dock icons, file icons, text), but NOT the whole UI (menus, window gadgets/borders, toolbar icons, buttons, app workspaces, mouse pointer, etc.). Not yet!

That feature--called "resolution-independent UI" or "scalable UI"--IS in Tiger, but it's incomplete. It's hidden by default (the dev tools on the OS X DVD can enable it). It's there ONLY for developers to use to get ready for a future version of OS X (Leopard probably) that will enable the feature.

If you use the feature in Tiger, you can scale to any custom size--bigger (sharper detail to take advantage of more pixels) or smaller (more workspace at the expense of detail). Great flexibility and perfect for high-density displays. Text looks great--but until the feature is complete, many other on-screen elements do NOT look great.

So I'm sure Leopard will be great with high-density displays. But UNTIL then, I think they should only be an option, not standard.


dontmatter said:
But there are two things I just don't get here. First, if I change the screen resolution on my powerbook, guess what? Sizes still change. Why? is this a feature that's just "not turned on"?
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Exactly, it's NOT a feature that exists yet, except in partial form for developer testing.

dontmatter said:
And still, can they make it completely scalable? ... You could round in the vertical direction, because nobody will notice between 13 pixels and 14 pixels, but you can't light up one and a third pixels. One makes your letters skinny, two makes them fat, and one third does not exist.
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You CAN light up one and a third pixels, and OS X has done that from the beginning. Whether scaling text or images, they can be anti-aliased. So one-third of a pixel is simply gray. (Although I did like OS 9's refusal to do that with text--it woul distort characters like you describe, but it WAS sharp.) Also, with sub-pixel anti-aliasing (turn on "Best for LCD" font smoothing in Appearance Preferences) you can get one-thirs of a pixel quite literally: text is sharper because it separates the three colored subpixels and addresses them individually (with some gray mixed in to avoid "color-fringing" effects). Note: if you experiment with turning best for LCD Font Smoothing on and off, you must log out and back in to see the difference. Look at the "V" in "View"--and you can take a Cmd-Shift-3 screenshot to compare.

BTW, in completing this feature, Apple will have to re-draw ALL UI elements at larger size (I'm guessing they'll stay bitmap, not vector, but big enough to stay smooth). I'm betting that when they re-draw everything, they'll take the opportunity to make everything consistent: ONE white app theme, ONE metal app theme, and no weird variations without a reason. Much needed.
 
lalcan said:
I noticed the parent page still lists the current powerbook configuration, along with the usual disclaimer about changes to the configuration/price without previous notice...
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that's right, but the last few times the apple store was open right from the start of the program, which - together with the "three to four days" - leads me to the conclusion that there will be an update on wednesday. why else would they delay the opening of the store..?
 
I won't be dumping Photoshop any time soon, even if Apple DOES come out with a "PS-killer," and even if I DO have to make do with Rosetta for a year (luckily I don't work on really high-res images much).

BUT I would LOVE to see Apple come out with such an app, just to spur Adobe into finally supporting Core Image :)

(And I know, a PS-killer's unlikely--if anything it will probably be a photo library management--a pro iPhoto, with some limited tweaking tools.)
 
Highly Ambitious

Here's some powerbook predictions:

13-inch WXGA 1280x768 resolution
1.5GHz Freescale 7448
512MB DDR2 SDRAM
80GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA (128MB DDR3)
Full size keyboard
10/100/1000BASE-T Ethernet
Superdrive Dual Layer Optional
FireWire 400/800
Analog audio in/out
Mini-DVI out
iSight Builtin

15-inch WUXGA 1440x900 resolution
1.5GHz Freescale 7448
512MB DDR2 SDRAM
80GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA (128MB DDR3)
Full size keyboard
10/100/1000BASE-T Ethernet
Superdrive Dual Layer (optional)
FireWire 400/800
Analog audio in/out
Mini-DVI out
iSight Builtin


15-inch WUXGA 1440x900 resolution
1.7GHz Freescale MPC8641D (dual core)
512MB DDR2 SDRAM
100GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA (128MB DDR3 or 256)
Full size keyboard
10/100/1000BASE-T Ethernet
Superdrive Dual Layer
FireWire 400/800
Analog audio in/out
Mini-DVI out
iSight Builtin


17-inch WUXGA 1920×1200 resolution
1.7GHz Freescale MPC8641D (dual core)
512MB DDR2 SDRAM
100GB Hard Drive
NVIDIA (128MB DDR3 or 256)
Full size keyboard
10/100/1000BASE-T Ethernet
Superdrive Dual Layer
FireWire 400/800
Analog audio in/out
Mini-DVI out
iSight Builtin


Here's to dreaming. I would easily drop $3k for the high end 15"

I also agree on previous PowerMac predictions and a Photoshop Elements replacement for ease of use and full of features.
 
On the UK store PowerMacs were showing at 24hrs earlier today, now they are showing 5 days.

I also found one store with a Not Available page for their PowerBooks and Cinema Displays, posted earlier in this thread.
 
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