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Apple Press Event October 19 Confirmed

starfishprime said:
You raise an interesting point nagromme. And this is completely true on a windoze machine... (try changing the resolution on a peecee at best buy sometime... AWFUL :eek: )
BUT OSX/Quartz already has features that can make the user interface resolution independant. :D Its called SVG (scalable vector graphics) and its what allows the awesome size change effects on the task bar and with icons. Notice how they are always of an extremely high graphic quality no matter how big they are?

Basicly mathematical equations are used to describe the shapes in the graphic and they are scaled based on these equations. The computer then draws the graphic in an optimal fashion for whatever size is needed on whatever resolution is available.
So if you are used to words that are 1/4 inch high on your screen that is 1280 x 1024 res, you can get words the same size on a screen that is twice the res... the words will just be super high-definition!

Anyways... the more resolution the better! Considering quartz uses SVG we could have desktops that are even more photo-realistic and/or HIGH-DEF with the same level of usability. A win/win situation ;)
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Oh, I didn't know that! Thank you!!
 
Well, can you believe that I still use a PowerBook G3? Now that I am going to start my PhD in physics I REALLY need as much portable POWER as I can get!!!

So, Steve, give us new PowerBooks, PLEASE!! :)
 
starfishprime said:
You raise an interesting point nagromme. And this is completely true on a windoze machine... (try changing the resolution on a peecee at best buy sometime... AWFUL :eek: )
BUT OSX/Quartz already has features that can make the user interface resolution independant. :D Its called SVG (scalable vector graphics) and its what allows the awesome size change effects on the task bar and with icons. Notice how they are always of an extremely high graphic quality no matter how big they are?
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You are confusing a lot of things here:

1) Quartz is vector based and has the ability to be resolution independant. At the moment a higher resolution screen will make things look smaller. If you use Quartz Debug in 10.4 you can alter the UI sizing independantly of the screen resolution. It's pretty buggy at the moment and is slated for 10.5.

2) This is nothing to do with SVG. SVG is a vector graphics format.

3) Icons in OSX are not SVG. They are not even vector based. They are simply bitmpas of a high enough resolution. It used to be 128x128, Tiger upped that to 256x256.

starfishprime said:
Basicly mathematical equations are used to describe the shapes in the graphic and they are scaled based on these equations. The computer then draws the graphic in an optimal fashion for whatever size is needed on whatever resolution is available.
So if you are used to words that are 1/4 inch high on your screen that is 1280 x 1024 res, you can get words the same size on a screen that is twice the res... the words will just be super high-definition!

Anyways... the more resolution the better! Considering quartz uses SVG we could have desktops that are even more photo-realistic and/or HIGH-DEF with the same level of usability. A win/win situation ;)
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This will work in 10.5, but at the moment double the resolution (without altering the size of the screen you will have the size. Quartz does not use SVG. Last time I checked NSImage does not even support SVG.
 
Fabio_gsilva said:
Oh, I didn't know that! Thank you!!
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All Mac OS X 10.4.x and earlier elements are simply bitmaps. Icons are 128x128 (or 256x256 in Tiger) images that are scaled to the target size.

10.5 is rumoured to bring SVG or something like SVG to the user interface to allow for true resolution independence. SVG is not an Apple technology by the way.

Some Linux desktop environments already use SVG for some of the interface elements, such as icons, etc. Some of the other desktop environments use bitmap icons created from SVG drawings in a similar way to how Mac OS X icons are presumably created and used.

Speculation: Mac OS X 10.4.3 may come with a 1.33x scale bitmap set for the interface to go with the current interface bitmaps. This will be for systems utilising a high DPI display such as the rumoured 17" Powerbook (rumoured 133dpi vs current 100dpi). It will not be mandatory I'm sure - it is just a step towards full interface resolution independence in 10.5.
 
Is it ok to ask a wholly non-technical question?

I'm just curious about the amount of time between the announcement on the 19th and the arrival of new machines in the stores.
What's been the historical trend?
 
Renegate said:
Don't know if anybody mentioned this already but there is no MAC version of the new Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0 . Does this point to some Photo Software from Apple? This would obviously define what niche they are aiming at versus a fullblown Photoshop replacer.
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There will be a Mac version of Photoshop Elements 4 though. Adobe confirmed it just recently saying that whilst concurrent releases of Pro apps (Creative Suite) were necessary, consumer releases did not have to be released to both platforms at the same time. But rest assured Adobe is making Photoshop Elements 4 for Mac.

That said, I like iPhoto and enjoy the control I have over my many photos, I'm no professional but I do enjoy taking pictures and using iPhoto to display them to my friends and family (looking forward to Christmas so I can do this from my new iPod - fingers crossed) but I would like a program from Apple that gives me the same sort of interface as iPhoto but with greater performance and better management/cataloguing abilities. There are apps out there at the moment that do this but I'm waiting to see what apple can come up with.
 
brb11 said:
Is it ok to ask a wholly non-technical question?

I'm just curious about the amount of time between the announcement on the 19th and the arrival of new machines in the stores.
What's been the historical trend?
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It really depends on the early demand for the product and how much stock Apple has ready to go. Small things tend to come out quickly whilst there can be considerable waits for higher-end goods (ask the PowerMac owners who waited 2 months for their systems, or most of the world who had to wait months for the iPod mini to even be available for order). That being said, Apple have been much better lately, the Mighty Mouse was in my AppleCentre here in Australia the same week it was announced, the nanos were in all stores in all sizes and colours the week after they were announced, I suspect the new iPod will show it's face later this week or next week.

You'll just have to wait and see I suppose.
 
brb11 said:
Is it ok to ask a wholly non-technical question?

I'm just curious about the amount of time between the announcement on the 19th and the arrival of new machines in the stores.
What's been the historical trend?
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Normally the Apple Store normally updates within about 10 to 20 minutes (1 hour at the most) from when the announcement goes live. :)
 
QuantumMac said:
Well, can you believe that I still use a PowerBook G3? Now that I am going to start my PhD in physics I REALLY need as much portable POWER as I can get!!!

So, Steve, give us new PowerBooks, PLEASE!! :)
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Well, I may say that my good ol' iBook G3 500 is running along pretty well, too..! Only Apple gives you this kind of long-lasting computing experience, even in old machines...amazing..! :)
 
No Intel until late 2006.

Very interesting insight...

"Adobe CEO Bruce Chizen recently met with CNET News.com to discuss his company's acquisition of Macromedia and changes he sees in the technology world. During the interview, he offered insights into Apple Computer's switch to Intel chips.

Q: I wanted to get your take on Apple's switch to Intel. How difficult is the process of migrating apps from platform to platform?
Chizen: Steve (Jobs) likes to trivialize the process and make it seem easy, but moving the apps over is not that easy...Getting over to MacTel is work. I think in the long run it's going to be great because what the users will get is better performance...and greater value. At Adobe, we tend to optimize for Intel today on the Windows side. The fact that we'll be able to optimize for Intel cross-platform will make it even better for us.

Q: What are the early returns from the people doing some of the work with the developer market? Not that easy, is it?
Chizen: It's not that easy because you have to compile the app, you have to test it. If you look at most testing cycles, for any complex cycle, for any complex product, that's three or four months until it's out. You just can't turn a switch and get a MacTel product--and Steve knows that.

Q: So, when do you think that Adobe will be ready to take Photoshop?
Chizen: I haven't given a date yet, I'd be surprised if we did a MacTel only release. I think you'll find us doing what we did with OS X, which is to enhance the product and support the new environment at the same time. If you look at our product cycles for products like Photoshop and Creative Suite, they tend to be in the 18- to 24-month cycle, which means that you're talking about either Q4 of '06 or Q1 of '07."
 
DavoMrMac said:
Normally the Apple Store normally updates within about 10 to 20 minutes (1 hour at the most) from when the announcement goes live. :)
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ok....well I'm asking about the physical Apple store here in my city.

is that what you mean?


thanks
 
there's a lot of 64-bit in the x86 world, chips and OS

iQuit said:
Is the current PowerMac actually 64 bit? If so then it is the ONLY personal computer that has a 64 bit processor with a 64 bit OS.
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Even the current Intel Celeron processors are 64-bit (http://www.intel.com/products/processor/celeron_d/index.htm) - except for the Dothan, all current Intel chips are 64-bit. Most (or all?) of the AMD line is 64-bit as well, even laptop chips. (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/ProductInformation/0,,30_118_9331,00.html)

Windows XP Pro x64 Edition has been released for quite some time (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/64bit/default.mspx). It's a full 64-bit O/S with 32-bit compatibility (unlike OSX which is still mainly 32-bit with the ability to run 64-bit programs in a limited mode). The big Linux distributions (RedHat/Suse) also support full 64-bit.

When you order a Dell workstation, you need to select Windows or Linux, 32-bit or 64-bit.... http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/compare.aspx/workstations?c=us&cs=555&l=en&s=biz
 
Quite the funk said:
When do you think apple releases a tablet version of the ibook or the powerbook? Wednesday????

What are the chances the new powerbooks will be lighter and thinner?
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1. Never

2. The Powerbook is already about as slim and light as you can get with a laptop computer. I take that back, you could skip the graphics card, put a VIA embedded chip in there, and use the hard drive from the iPod, but then it wouldn't be too useful.
 
brb11 said:
ok....well I'm asking about the physical Apple store here in my city.

is that what you mean?


thanks
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No, he means the online store, products arriving in brick-and-mortar stores take a while longer. Normally they don't arrive until the product is shipping to all the people who ordered online.

Most of us buy our stuff at apple.com/(your country suffix) because actual stores are pretty thin on the ground outside (and sometimes inside) the US.
 
Renegate said:
Don't know if anybody mentioned this already but there is no MAC version of the new Adobe Photoshop Elements 4.0 . Does this point to some Photo Software from Apple? This would obviously define what niche they are aiming at versus a fullblown Photoshop replacer.
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I didn't post it but I was sure thinking it.
 
Hi all, first post.

Everyone seems to be commenting on the amount of stock that places have left but looking at the Apple Japan store things seem very instock still:

Powermac dispatch is within 3-5 days
Powerbook dispatch is within 24 hours for all models
Cinema displays are all in the same boat as the Powerbooks。

At Yodobashi Camera they have the displays in stock but from what I can gather the Powermacs and Powerbooks are on order. Bic Camera only has 2.3GHz Powermacs and 12" Powerbooks by the looks of things.

Make of it what you will.
 
The Wayback machine

Whyren said:
Another clue perhaps? Didn't the PowerBook page on Apple.com go to /powerbookg4/ before? Now it just goes to /powerbook/ and the /powerbookg4/ results in a "not found" page.
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Still reading through the mountain of replies over the weekend so maybe this has already been answered.

According to the wayback machine there has been pages at www.apple.com/powerbook since 1999.

No history at all for www.apple.com/powerbookg4.
 
Butts M Biggilo said:
We are up to 700 posts... It could be a world record!
Butts :)
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Nowhere near it unfortunately. We have to get to a thousand posts on one subject before it comes true. Only after a thousand posts does Steve log in and look at what we want - except the G5 PowerBook threads, even he's sick of them.
 
Butts M Biggilo said:
We are up to 700 posts... It could be a world record!
Butts :)
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Nah not close, I can remember a thread about the Rev B PM G5's (dual 2.5GHz top-end) when we were all waiting for ours to ship that went well over 5000 posts (6197 in fact). I'm sure there have been longer as well.


A long way to go yet guys
 
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