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Because you have an Apple Watch Ultra.
My watch has died on me at 3:10 before, before doing any workouts. Just pure sitting on wrist occasionally checking the time and thats it...
What is your battery health? I’ve got a s9 with 97% and easily make it 24hrs doing sleep tracking, music playing though AirPod Pros2, texting, AOD on all day in the sun, exercise and water tracking, tons of reminders and timers, and the occasional maps or web search thanks to an app from the App Store. I charge it to 100% for about 30 minutes from when I wake up and take my shower till I walk out the door. I don’t charge again till the next morning and usually have about 30% left at that point.
 
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Each market is quite different, despite a fair amount of overlap. Just as there’s lots of overlap between the Corvette and the minivan.

Really, the only valid comparison would be to an Android watch or a Huawei watch that have their own ecosystems.

I owned a Forerunner for a few months and loved it. I wish I could have stayed with it, but I ultimately moved on because it sucked at the one thing I needed it to do most (sleep tracking).

The battery life on the more fully featured Garmins also are not as good as advertised. They only last 10-20 days if you don't use a lot of features.
 
Sadly—no, frustratingly—this attitude seems to permeate all product lines and is deeply ingrained in Apple’s internal culture. For instance:
  1. MacBook Pro displays have slow response times, often accompanied by a ghosting effect.
  2. iPhones have an inferior anti-reflection coating.
  3. iPhone camera is terrible now.
  4. iOS is becoming increasingly unstable.
  5. Siri sucks.
  6. The “magic” that once captivated Apple customers has vanished.
  7. On the business side, Apple opts for lower wages compared to other Big Tech companies, relying solely on the “prestige” of the brand.
Apple believes it’s the best at everything, so it sees no competition or alternative products. Obviously, this isn't true, and sometimes I'm glad the EU and the US are trying to burst Apple's bubble with regulation. I still like the products though and want Apple to succeed. Apple is losing sight of the ball.
 
Garmin watches are great and have their market, but the Apple Watch has a much more broad spectrum of user. The device is simultaneously marketed as a first phone for your kids, a fitness device, a wrist-worn computer, a running companion, a safety device for the elderly and everything in between.

Comparing the two is like saying Apple pretends it has zero competition to the iPad when you own a gaming PC.
 
Would not be an issue if they made the battery good to begin with.
Its a series 8 with 83% battery health.
So buy a different device, dude. No need to come here making some huge stink about it.

Also, don't you think they would "make the battery good" if they could? I'm sure if the technology existed to make an ultra compact device that does all the stuff an Apple Watch does with a 4 day battery life they would do it. It's not like they're sitting on some advanced battery tech that delivers 2x the storage. The battery can only do what it can do -- and if they want to add more time between charges they either cut back on power draw (have fewer features running) or they make the battery bigger (a bulkier wearable that nobody wants).
 
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I keep waffling and try other watches (wearing a Withings today) but I now keep my Apple Watch on standby. For what I use it for, the convenience of Apple ends up being more important than aesthetics, analog elements, or even focus. The Withings is an almost ideal watch for me except that setting timers is a pain and I seem to have become addicted to checking weather on the watch rather than haul my phone out of my pocket. Thirty day battery life is nice, though! But the luminescent hands leave me in the dark of an evening, defeating the ancient point of a wrist clock…
 
Although it’s a workaround, have you tried Low Power Mode? At least when you’re not actively using it for athletics? I don’t use LPM often (my S10 seems remain around 70% by end of day with light use), but I went on a trip and think I got a couple days with it.

What I don’t like about LPM is that it halts the 24/7 tracking, like HR which I track throughout the day to monitor a health condition. But if specific athletic moments are your main use, you might as well conserve battery until you need it. View it as a tool that needs sharpened and maintained to perform correctly.

Plus make sure it’s fully charged before any event. Putting the Watch on a charger or battery pack mid-day is definitely clunky, but you can probably find 30 minutes before an event, during travel or something, etc. There are some battery packs with a built-in Watch charger.

I simply feel there are solutions to your challenge.

My previous S7 was so bad on battery it barely got through my low-activity day. But I wasn’t about to defect to Garmin over it. The solution was either to re-charge it or, ultimately, get a new battery/Watch, and then let the 80% charge limit feature try to keep the battery healthy for longer.


Edit: I just saw your comment about having an S8 with 83% battery health … practically the same percentage as my S7 was. Yeah, you need a new battery or Watch. No wonder you’re complaining. That amount of degradation cannot get through the day let alone sport events.

Sorry if I have to be the blunt one, but your complaint is not dissimilar to taking a dull axe to a tree log chopping contest and wondering why you can’t even get through half the log while your Garmin friends cut through it easily.

Apple vs Garmin is literally not the problem. Your geriatric battery is the problem. Replace it. If you’re going to use the Watch as a professional tool, then respect it like a professional tool and maintain it, not complain about it for wearing out like it’s obviously going to have done since 2022.

Does all your other worn-out sportswear receive the same level of critique and complaint, or just your watch?


Edit 2: Also, just contemplating out loud when it comes to competition, Apple is known more for competing with themselves than anyone else. And this is the way I want it to be.

The rushed and failed Apple Intelligence hype and vaporware is what happens when Apple competes with others. Cook & Co were foolish to 1) miss this bandwagon and 2) rush to jump onto it without a functional product. Apple would’ve been wiser to simply ignore AI while everyone passed them by, and only then release their take on it when ready.

Compared to when they let Jony run wild with form over function, which people complained about with their loss of ports, which then led to the highly acclaimed Apple Silicon MacBook Pro redesign. Apple competed with themselves and lost; so they learned, tried again, and won.

They’ve never cared much about what others are doing, or not doing. That’s why they were the first major player to ditch the CD drive (or something like that), and the first to ditch many separate ports for USB C.

It’s not that they’re pretending Garmin doesn’t exist. It’s that they really don’t care. People who care about Garmin will just go to Garmin.

People who want to stay in the Apple ecosystem will hopefully just get a battery replacement instead of making it a bigger deal than it is…
 
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As an on/off Apple Watch user.

I decided recently to change my S10 for a forerunner965.

I will say though Apple Watch has no competition for a smartwatch. It is heads and shoulders above anything on the market.

Now of course comparing an Apple Watch to a running watch for running, it’s silly to expect it will be better than a dedicated running watch.

Similar if you compared an ultra to a dedicated dive watch.

However what the Apple Watch does is be decent at everything. If you don’t need or want features offered by a specialist device there is really no reason to use anything other than the Apple Watch.
 
Now I know what some of you will be saying, why not just get a Garmin or Apple Watch Ultra? I want the integration with Apple's ecosystem since the Apple Watch is more of a day-to-day watch, and the Apple Watch Ultra is just way too expensive.
I'd ditch the S8 and find an AWU 2 refurb (check eBay), or pair a COROS Pace 3/Pro to your existing AW.

The COROS app makes it easy to consolidates workouts you do with your AW and the COROS.
 
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@WilliApple

You are never gonna get a balanced discussion of this comparison on this forum
This is definitely a balanced discussion.
Sadly—no, frustratingly—this attitude seems to permeate all product lines and is deeply ingrained in Apple’s internal culture. For instance:
  1. MacBook Pro displays have slow response times, often accompanied by a ghosting effect.
  2. iPhones have an inferior anti-reflection coating.
I disagree.
  1. iPhone camera is terrible now.
I disagree.
  1. iOS is becoming increasingly unstable.
I disagree.
  1. Siri sucks.
Depends on what you use it for.
  1. The “magic” that once captivated Apple customers has vanished.
No it hasn’t.
  1. On the business side, Apple opts for lower wages compared to other Big Tech companies, relying solely on the “prestige” of the brand.
Citation for pay grades across the tech sector.
Apple believes it’s the best at everything, so it sees no competition or alternative products. Obviously, this isn't true, and sometimes I'm glad the EU and the US are trying to burst Apple's bubble with regulation.
So you are happy that governments will be responsible for a worse product than you already claim?
I still like the products though and want Apple to succeed. Apple is losing sight of the ball.
I think they know exactly what strategic directions they need to go in.
 
I sleep with my watch every night. Wake up at 5 a.m., workout, put watch on charger, shower, put watch back on, go to work, go for a walk with the dog, put watch back on charger and shower, put watch back on, go to bed before 10. Never have an issue with battery. Always enough to get me to my next shower. Also, cellular. You're battery complaint isn't as bad as you make it sound. Your lack of cellular makes garmin a non starter. Not to mention all the other pluses you put for owning an apple watch.
You may not run into battery problems with that routine, but skin problems will follow all that showering 😂
 
Yes, what you do is charge it at night when you’re sleeping. If you want sleep tracking then you can charge it while you’re in the shower. Generally, it’s recommended to shower at least once a day.

Don’t get me wrong. I would love to have an Apple Watch with the battery life of a digital quartz watch. Replace the battery every couple years and never have to worry about charging. We’re not quite there yet. If you want the features that the Apple Watch has then it requires a certain amount of power. If they make it use less power, they have to sacrifice features.
I actually charge my watch every night, even if the battery is 40%, because I know it won’t last me a full next day.
And I also take a shower every day🙂
I don’t use sleep tracking, because I can’t stand having something around my arm when I’m sleeping, but that’s just me.

I know that AW have some of the best health features on any smartwatch now, so maybe you are right.

Personally I would like to have a Garmin just for training and AW for every other occasion.
 
The rest/recovery recommendation on garmin, or even polar is garbage. As some one who used to train 5-6 days every day, it’s bogus. If you really want to measure recovery, you need some real equipment which often includes putting breathing masks and take measurements. Go with how your body feels not some gadget tells you. Try training for iron man with recovery recommendation of Garmin. lol.
I don’t know about this, i only tell what others have told me about recovery on their Garmin watches.

You are absolutely right about the real equipment to take measurements.
But on the other hand you will need those for AW.
AW is not 100% correct, even if they are good and close enough.

I train 3-4 times a week and im 49 years old and i must have one day of rest after a workout😁
 
Proof that Garmin is better because they last a lot longer… I am not keeping a watch for 2 years only. Thats absolutely pathetic
It doesn’t “proof” anything other than actual battery life, which is known and due to very different use and capability scenarios.
But hey, if Garmin works better for you, by all means, you have a choice.
 
Proof that Garmin is better because they last a lot longer… I am not keeping a watch for 2 years only. Thats absolutely pathetic

Garmin Watches just don't do the same things an Apple Watch and it's focus is geared toward a different target of consumers. Garmin is for those who wants more hard, accurate and reliable data. Apple Watch does that but does it with many other things that drain its battery a lot quicker so it's not as reliable in that sense.

You are also able to pay the cost of a battery replacement and have your current watch replaced by Apple. I just did it on my Series 7 after 3 years of ownership and paid the battery cost only.
 
I actually charge my watch every night, even if the battery is 40%, because I know it won’t last me a full next day.
I think it’s similar with the iPhone. I have a 14 Pro Max and if I don’t charge it at night it will die in the afternoon of the next day.

And I also take a shower every day🙂
This is always recommended unless you want extra personal space 😂

I don’t use sleep tracking, because I can’t stand having something around my arm when I’m sleeping, but that’s just me.
I used to do it but it took getting used to.

I know that AW have some of the best health features on any smartwatch now, so maybe you are right.

Personally I would like to have a Garmin just for training and AW for every other occasion.
I’m currently taking a break from my Apple Watch. I’ve never really liked wearing a watch all the time. I’m currently wearing a traditional watch but even that is off and on.
 
This is definitely a balanced discussion.

I disagree.

I disagree.

I disagree.

Depends on what you use it for.

No it hasn’t.

Citation for pay grades across the tech sector.

So you are happy that governments will be responsible for a worse product than you already claim?

I think they know exactly what strategic directions they need to go in.

The fact that the person you're responding to said that MacBook Pro Display has slow response time (which WHOLE internet is saying so and it's clearly visible in everyday usage) and you said I DISAGREE says a lot about your response.
No other arguments, just "I disagree" because you're pressed someone is saying anything wrong about Apple and it's products lol

Oh and your response to the "Siri sucks" lmao Apple is literally shaking because well... siri sucks but I guess not for you and that's totally fine!
 
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