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Apple pretends that there is no competition

If you're trying to do an apples-for-apples comparison, have you turned off features that you don't need? Every feature uses power to some degree.

The Apple watch does far more than the Garmin, right? That consumes power.

For example, did you turn off Wifi and Bluetooth while on your run?

Apple is honest about the battery life, and is not promising multi-day life. It is up to the user to configure the device's current configuration to best match the task being done.

If you took a hike in to the mountains, you'd likely put your phone into Airplane mode to conserve battery life, right? The same logic applies to the watch during a task that requires it to be capturing data in real time. Conserve the *known* limited battery for what is being done. It's a couple of taps.

Better battery tech is coming. Apple has already published some research around that.
 
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G shock's battery last far longer than Garmin, so they have an even superior battery tech?

If Garmin does everything AW do, I am pretty sure they will have similar battery life.
 
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redcarian said:
No. Only the Ultra has a flat screen. Other SKUs have a screen that curves into the case.

And the issue? No idea. But different people like different things.
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I prefer a flat screen. Easier to read and right into the corners; and easier to clean
 
WilliApple said:
Apple seems to be pretending that there is zero competition with the Apple Watch.

Yes, it does have Apple Ecosystem features like Unlock Mac + iPhone with Apple Watch, but tbh, I can live without those. Other than that, there's FaceTime Audio / phone calls and THAT IT IS!
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I do not think Apple pretends there is no competition, I am sure they are more than aware of the market place.

For me I had a Garmin I used for running, it was ok but I didn't love it.
Then when Apple released Apple Fitness+ I decided to get an Apple Watch.

For me the eco-system is exactly why I like the AW, and why despite knowing the Garmin is also good I wont be changing to it.
The AW works really well for me when running, walking and working out and then other features fit my needs. And being relatively seamless with my other products counts for a lot for me.

But I do not pretend it is perfect, and if someone prefers the Garmin options then great I wont knock them.
I'll be staying with my AWU for now.
 
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I was well aware of Garmin before I bought my S10, but it just wasn't compelling enough to switch. Having started out with FitBit then AW S3 and up, I can honestly say one of the most useful features that influences my decision to stay with AW is ApplePay. It's something I know I would miss if I switched to Garmin. Would I be happy otherwise with Garmin? Probably but ApplePay seals the deal for me.
 
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sparkie7 said:
ok. Too bulky?

How was the weight?
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my recent unfortunate experience with a 6.2 magnitude earthquake locally here in istanbul last week. in the moment of panic did not have the time to get my iPhone but was wearing AWU2 . did not return home for 3 days due to aftershocks. last year i switched to a S10 yep lighter but i really missed the ultra2 in terms of battery and the feel weight has never been an issue for myself. 2 months later i went back to the ultra2 and gave S10 to my wife which upgraded her S7 which had a rapidly depleting battery . after last weeks earthquake having the ultra2 on a cellular plan meant i was contactable at all times for the three days where as my wife’s S10 died next morning though her phone had no issues due to having a power bank . so switching back to ultra2 with 3 day battery life paid dividends and theoretically eradicated any concerns for my friends and relatives for my wellbeing . worst case scenario if i had been injured, trapped under rubble separated from wife etc would have been located so the 3 day battery life is a good benefit as much has it may not be significant too many until you actually need it.ps if its a fashion statement then forget about an ultra very uncomfortable in long sleeved shirts or elastic tight jackets at wrist. hopefully above highlights the benefits of ultra2 in scenarios like i experienced
 
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ProbablyDylan said:
Weight was fine. It was thickness for me - stood out way too far from the wrist. Was especially bad for sleep tracking!
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I suspect this is highly contingent on the size of your wrist and your preferred sleep posture. I have no difficulty wearing mine overnight, and indeed find the sleep tracking to be both reasonably accurate and reasonably useful.

If you have a slim wrist then the Ultra is likely to not be for you; it’s going to look daft, be uncomfortable a lot of the time, and none of the straps will fit quite right. My personal rule of thumb is if the body of the watch including the lugs doesn’t sit entirely on my wrist - i.e. no overhang - then the watch is too big for me.
 
Night Spring said:
And what in particular about Apple's behavior makes you think they are pretending there's no competition? They don't run ads? Something they said in their marketing materials? They don't innovate? Something else?
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—-^ Yes, this exactly. The day Apple starts running tons of insecure ads comparing themselves to Garmin, like Samsung already does about iPhones, then maybe you’ll have some ground to stand on (OP). Until then… nope.
 
Rychiar said:
I don’t have the slightest clue what an l5 gps is lol
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L5 is just a signal from the GPS satellites, it permits better location accuracy than L1. It's less susceptible to errors, and has more bandwidth.
 
redcarian said:
If you have a slim wrist then the Ultra is likely to not be for you; it’s going to look daft, be uncomfortable a lot of the time, and none of the straps will fit quite right. My personal rule of thumb is if the body of the watch including the lugs doesn’t sit entirely on my wrist - i.e. no overhang - then the watch is too big for me.
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It's funny because I have pretty chunky wrist! It really is a preference thing.

Plus, the Ultra is kinda ugly imo, but that's not relevant to comfort
 
WilliApple said:
They don’t innovate. There’s garmin over here with a few weeks of battery and L5 GPS comes standard with every Garmin. Plus the processor stays the same in a few generations at a time in the Apple Watch. All Apple does is rounds it a little more and improves CHARGING… not the actual battery itself…
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Considering apple invented the products first it’s a bit easier for others to copy. Apple Watches are great. I don’t use mine for anything phone related, but I love mine for workouts.
 
redcarian said:
If you have a slim wrist then the Ultra is likely to not be for you;
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I have very slim wrists -- I wear the size 1 solo loops, and in the newer sizing system, I'd probably get the size 0. The interesting thing is that I find I can wear the Ultra, whereas the larger size regular Apple watch is completely unwearable. The Ultra sits more flat against my wrist, whereas the larger regular watch kind of floats.

I did end up going with the smaller regular Apple watch, because the extra weight and size of the Ultra was less comfortable than the regular watch. But I did wear the Ultra for about a week, all day and also to bed for sleep monitoring. Whereas the larger regular Apple watch, the moment I put it on, it's like nope, that's not staying on.
 
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