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You are not understanding or what? Do you never have lunch and have your phone on the table

I do have lunch and have my phone on the table. I also have a hand with fingers to pick up the phone for less then a second to unlock it, and then place it back down.
 
SUREEEEEE just be laying sideways and try to unlock your phone. Faceid is HORRIBLE for lounging around. Especially in bed. I don't know how many times a day I have to put in my passcode because it never picks up my face laying on something or not having the phone perfectly straight. Try unlocking the phone on a table not directly over it also.
Show what really happens apple can you do that?
Yeah. This is what I complain about Face ID. Just 50% of the chance to recognise my face while rolling on the bed is not a good experience for me to unlock my device.
Sadly, just like Apple, a lot of people still encase themselves with tinfoil hat and nutshell, refusing to accept the reality and wholeheartedly believe world is spinning around them.
 
I do have lunch and have my phone on the table. I also have a hand with fingers to pick up the phone for less then a second to unlock it, and then place it back down.
While you're eating you have 3 hands to eat with two hands and mess with your phone when its flat on a table. Gotchaaa
 
Yeah. This is what I complain about Face ID. Just 50% of the chance to recognise my face while rolling on the bed is not a good experience for me to unlock my device.
Sadly, just like Apple, a lot of people still encase themselves with tinfoil hat and nutshell, refusing to accept the reality and wholeheartedly believe world is spinning around them.
I complain when I feel like I should and I do really like faceid but most the time its just frustrating to use in these situations. Its great if you're having one on one time with your phone but most my uses are using it while doing something else.
 
Math matters more than your feelings. 50K to 1 compared to 1 Million to 1.

In the case of 50k to 1, it is not an issue. I dont have hundreds of strangers trying to unlock my phone, and people in my family that dont have my fingerprint certainly cant.

So not a matter of feelings, its a matter of a tangible difference it makes- which I assert security wise there is none
 
I love FaceID on iPhone and iPad, completely addicted. It would be nice to have it on Mac too but with Apple Watch unlocking and TouchID there is less need there.
 
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This ad is tantamount to adding insult to injury. I now type my passcode in 20 times a day.

FaceID is so dumb it will recognise me in sunglasses but not with real glasses. Or with real glasses but not without.

And while we're on the subject of design ergonomics, Mr Ive, you do realise that a quarter of the population is myopic, rising to half the population by 2030, so tens/hundreds of millions of people around the world naturally hold the phone close to their face at a distance far shorter than FaceID can accommodate?


Speaking of "myopic," have you thought this "design problem" through? FaceID unlocks your phone as you bring it up or look at it. You don't slide it up your face to get it up to your eyes, and it's not dependent on your visual acuity--myopia, hyperopia (farsightedness), heck, you can be blind, and FaceID works. LOL. Thanks for the morning chuckle.
 
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Yeah, I don't want a notch and I don't want FaceID. I honestly think that the notch was a big design compromise, required at the last minute, because they couldn't get either under-screen TouchID to work or under-screen cameras to work yet. Honestly, I'd rather have a narrow bezel at the top instead of a notch and/or a narrow bezel at the bottom and a smaller version of TouchID if they can't get either of the under-screen technologies to work.

I'm sure I'm not the only one, and perhaps we're in the minority, but I would rather replace my 2 year old 8 Plus with a new or refurbished 8 Plus than buy anything with a notch or with only FaceID. It is not easier! It is not more secure! That's just marketing! Last year was the first year I haven't upgraded my iPhone with the next year's version since the 3G came out, specifically for these reasons.
 
I love Touch ID! is fast and reliable. I always thought Face ID as the quick relieve from apple to the pressure of releasing a full display screen phone in their race with Samsung. I would've like it better if they'd actually got a working on (under) screen touch ID. And I don't care how many times they say it, Face ID can't be more secure than Touch ID.
 
Or this “math” is part of marketing campaign, which makes sense.


That's the beauty of math, it doesn't change depending on your usage -- 1 in a million will always be less of a chance than 1 in 50K.
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In the case of 50k to 1, it is not an issue. I dont have hundreds of strangers trying to unlock my phone, and people in my family that dont have my fingerprint certainly cant.

So not a matter of feelings, its a matter of a tangible difference it makes- which I assert security wise there is none


You're right that TouchID is secure; that's why financial institutions supported it's usage for Apple Pay. The point about FaceID is that it's even more secure, which was important for many reasons because the Android attempts at using facial recognition failed in the security aspect, and Apple has been able to assure people and companies that you don't have to sacrifice security to have convenience. That's winning!
 
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It works for me without issue, I much prefer Face ID over Touch ID. I'm working at home and it's unlocked sitting on my desk 5 out of 5 times. I went to the bedroom, laid on my side, and smooshed my face down in a pillow and it still unlocked without issue.
 
While you're eating you have 3 hands to eat with two hands and mess with your phone when its flat on a table. Gotchaaa

Do you realize that touchID also needs a hand to use? If you have a hand to unlock with a fingerprint, you have a hand to tilt up the phone. Once it's unlocked, I can place it down and eat while reading/watching/etc. If anything, faceID is better because it will prevent the phone from dimming/autolocking while it sees that your eyes are on the device.
 
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I like both Face ID and Touch ID. Both are good solutions and work pretty well. I don't care about extra security, the current one is enough.

What I don't like is having notches. If somewhere along the road Android manufacturers are doing under the screen touch in notchless full screen phones and Apple is still locked in the current state of affairs I do hope Apple really thinks this through.
 
It's incredible (in the most literal sense of that word) how divisive the Touch ID versus Face ID issue is.

The forces of good and evil in a massive struggle with one another. It should be fodder for the next Star Wars trilogy.

I wish Samuel Beckett were around in 2019. "Now we're getting somewhere."
 
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That's the beauty of math, it doesn't change depending on your usage -- 1 in a million will always be less of a chance than 1 in 50K.
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Your twin can unlock your FaceId phone but i dont think he/she can unlock with finger print. I believe finger print is unique, correct me if im wrong about that. And also how is it 1 in 50k if finger print is unique. If the posibilty for iphone is 1 in 50k for fingerprint then i guess they have an unreliable scanner or software.
 
That's the beauty of math, it doesn't change depending on your usage -- 1 in a million will always be less of a chance than 1 in 50K.
Yeah, obviously 1 in a million is much smaller than 1 in 50K. But, Where are independent researches that backs this claim up? Or is this just Apple themselves bragging about this?
It works for me without issue, I much prefer Face ID over Touch ID. I'm working at home and it's unlocked sitting on my desk 5 out of 5 times. I went to the bedroom, laid on my side, and smooshed my face down in a pillow and it still unlocked without issue.
Good for you. :)
 
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Do you realize that touchID also needs a hand to use? If you have a hand to unlock with a fingerprint, you have a hand to tilt up the phone. Once it's unlocked, I can place it down and eat while reading/watching/etc. If anything, faceID is better because it will prevent the phone from dimming/autolocking while it sees that your eyes are on the device.
have you used both phones before? Because the way you talk it doesn't seem like you have.
ok ok this is going to be hard to grasp but a phone FLAT on a table surface while you're eating yes you do not need to PICK up the phone with Touch ID. You put your finger on the flat phone and magically unlocks you don't have to pick it up and angle it towards your face like you do with faceid. Its just flawed by design. If you can't see this then I can't help you.
 
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Face ID won’t work at all with my Persol sunglasses. Until they can fix that, it’s hugely flawed.
 
Great, thanks Apple. Like we really need more fuel to the “TouchID vs FaceID” fire.

Incoming people complaining about how TouchID is superior to FaceID
In addition to lots and lots and lots of free advertising (because folks will describe what FaceID is when trashing it) Plus, the inevitable “FACE ID CHALLENGE” where people post videos on YouTube of unlocking their phones in all sorts of hilarity ensuing, non-finger-using scenarios!!
 
I complain when I feel like I should and I do really like faceid but most the time its just frustrating to use in these situations. Its great if you're having one on one time with your phone but most my uses are using it while doing something else.
Ok, sorry. My bad. I apologise.
Have a nice day. :)
 
Too bad Face ID doesn't work when I'm wearing my sunglasses (ie. at least 4 months out of the year), so whenever I'm outside during the daytime and I want to open my phone, I have to pull them off my face every time, open my phone, and then put them back on. I didn't have to go through that BS with Touch ID. Apparently Face ID supposedly works with some sunglasses, but it it sure doesn't with any of mine..
I don’t have any issues with sunglasses and I also wear sunglasses 12 months out of the year. I have turned off the Require Attention for Face ID feature so it’s doesn’t need me to stare at the phone. Face ID on iOS 13 is even more lenient and incredibly fast. If they removed the swipe up after it unlocks, it would be on par for speed with Touch ID 2.0.
 
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