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I think (very subjective, and don't have the data to back this up) that the iPhone 4S seems zippier than the iPad 2. Despite using the same processor (seemingly). Or is it honey moon period with a new device?

iPhone 4S has a slightly smaller resolution than iPad2... at least on 3D/vector graphics rendering, it will seem faster than iPad2.
 
The iPad definitely needs a screen resolution update. It would be even better if it was more crisp.

But that update for the resolution hardly 'definitely' needs to be right now. There's no mass market 1080p or better video that needs to be supported and the text etc is just fine on the iPad.

what it needs before a possible battery killing 300+dpi screen is better brightness controls, the ability to use outdoors in sunlight and a better coating to reduce finger prints. oh and some more RAM to help improve video rendering in games etc wouldn't hurt (plus it would help overall)
 
Retina display and a bit more speed would make the device perfect.

Well, that and a new wireless chip so that we can finally lose all the "Server cannot be found" errors that force you to turn off wireless and then re-enable it multiple times per day. Oh yeah, and enough memory so that Safari doesn't constantly reload a page every time you switch tabs, wiping out anything you'd entered on that page (including lengthy forum posts) in the process.
 
Too early to begin production for iPad 3.

Depends on when they are going to release it. Remember, the past two years have had sales in the millions in the first 2-3 weeks. the iPad 2 had seriously stock delays because they didn't make enough before launch. Perhaps this time they are trying to reduce that kind of delay.

And unlike previous Digitimes rumors this one actually makes sense. This Friday is considered the start of holiday shopping in the US and many folks will shop early to avoid sell outs etc. So Apple needs to be ready for crowds this weekend in their US stores. The UK etc won't be far behind on the shopping so they need enough to cover those areas as well. So ramping up production last quarter to stock pile units makes sense. Once holiday shopping is under way they don't need to be making millions a week cause they are made. And it is typical of Apple products that folks assume the next model is coming out any day after the holidays and many won't buy or will even return what they did get to get store credit they can use for that next one so no need for heavy production on the current line up.

The only thing Digitimes got wrong was the labeling of the quarters. but that's typical of folks that use the standard calendar and forget about the notion of a fiscal year which for Apple starts in October making holidays Q1 not Q4. For those that remember this skewed calendar it makes it seem off cause they are thinking that the ramp up was in the early summer, not the late summer and early fall as it likely was

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I would also add that the front-facing camera needs some improvement.

both cameras. In fact that is another thing that should come way before any thoughts of a Retina Display.
 
But I wouldn't pull back on iPad 2. I'm sure there is going to be a good market for them, especially if you lower the price.
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Apple has not ever and will likely never have two lines running at the same time.

What they MIGHT do is follow in the steps of the iPhone and keep the 16 GB wifi only iPad 2 with a $100-150 price drop for the 'my kids need it for school' and similar markets to complement a 32, 64 and perhaps 128 GB iPad 3 with a better camera, brighter display, more RAM, bluetooth 4 support etc.
 
Yep, definitely!:rolleyes:

... did you go and see your eye doctor? Maybe it's not the ipad resolution?

I would have thought it was patently obvious that the better one's eyes were, the more able they would be to notice the obvious aliasing in text on an iPad when compared to an iPhone 4/4s.

Why people think that noticing resolution issues equates to bad eyesight is utterly beyond me.
 
iPhone 4S has a slightly smaller resolution than iPad2... at least on 3D/vector graphics rendering, it will seem faster than iPad2.

Yeah, but the speed difference is removing any speed advantage it may have had.

In fact, the iPhone 4S is quite a bit slower than the iPad 2, even at 3D rendering.
 
How much faster does the A6 (assuming the iPad 3 has one) need to be to handle the higher resolution without any performance degradation? It seems to me it'd take quite a feat of engineering to do so without any appreciable degradation in battery life, or increase in heat generation.

When they replaced the (non Retina) iPhone 3G to the (Retina) iPhone 4, they changed the form factor - and I'm guessing had to make the battery larger too.
 
Apple has not ever and will likely never have two lines running at the same time.

Not true. They still sell the iPhone 3Gs as well as the iPhone 4. In addition, consider how awesome it will be when the refurbished iPad 2 models drop even further in price. You can now get a refurbished 16GB iPad 2 WiFi model for $449. That price will easily drop to $399 once the iPad 3 is launched - at which point other tablet manufacturers will have almost no chance of braking the iPad monopoly.
 
Not true. They still sell the iPhone 3Gs as well as the iPhone 4. In addition, consider how awesome it will be when the refurbished iPad 2 models drop even further in price. You can now get a refurbished 16GB iPad 2 WiFi model for $449. That price will easily drop to $399 once the iPad 3 is launched - at which point other tablet manufacturers will have almost no chance of braking the iPad monopoly.

If Apple can sell 15 million iPads in a quarter, and manufacturers can build 5 million Retina displays a quarter, then I would expect to have two lines. With the price for the Retina display set just right so that everyone willing to pay can get one. In other words, high enough so that only 5 million will want it at that price.

Apple might of course lets say combine 64 GB with Retina display, so that it is more expensive anyway.
 
April minus 11 months: March
March minus 11 months: February

So the next iPad should come in February, almost 3 months from now.
 
No Retina coming till ipad 4, now that would be fun news. I am not holding for ipad 3 with retina till after summer of 2012:D
 
How much faster does the A6 (assuming the iPad 3 has one) need to be to handle the higher resolution without any performance degradation? It seems to me it'd take quite a feat of engineering to do so without any appreciable degradation in battery life, or increase in heat generation.

When they replaced the (non Retina) iPhone 3G to the (Retina) iPhone 4, they changed the form factor - and I'm guessing had to make the battery larger too.

Most likely that the 28nm process improves efficiency over the current 40nm. I'm guessing still Cortex A9 quad core with next gen Power VR.

Two rumors:

One is that TSMC has had to do another tapeout in early 2012 for the A6 at 28nm and 3D interconnects followed by the A7, but yield and capacity will still be issues.

The other is that Samsung will produce the A6 at 28nm without 3D.

I'm buying into the Samsung production rumor. Apple needs volume that TSMC can't yet provide. Still, if TSMC can demonstrate a better process, Apple may deem them worthy of some cash to add more exclusive capacity towards the A7 which will probably be a Cortex A15 at 22nm.

Which brings up the recently announced and even lower power ARM A7. Could Apple decide that the iPod Nano could use a bit of iOS and could the ARM A7 make that happen?
 
Yep, definitely!:rolleyes:

... did you go and see your eye doctor? Maybe it's not the ipad resolution?

11.12 million people more with eye strain after the initial millions of ipad 1 users.

On a side note, I wish MR would stop showing the Galaxy in this article, looks just like an ipad.

You should probably see an eye doctor to review what you wrote :rolleyes:

On a serious note, I'm excited for the iPad 3. Probably the first one I'll buy for myself if it includes the retina display. It'd be incredible for notes in classes.
 
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I think AAPLaday hit the nail on the head. It's all pure speculation. Doesn't an early 2012 release mean it will probably be without the A6?

No.
 
You are absolutely correct. I switched from Netbook to iPad because it...
uses 100% of the screen to edit/use an application.
doesn't have unnecessary task bars.
doesn't have a fan distracting from what you have to listen to etc.
doesn't need a virus scanner.
has at least twice the battery life.
is lighter.
does everything I need faster.

Yes, there are backdrops but they are not prohibitive for me. :cool:

Backdrops, lol. I wonder what the drawbacks are though?
 
The lack of a retina display in the current iPad is the main reason why I am not getting one—as my main usage scenario would be academic reading (and some writing).
 
Wasn't there a rumor that Apple was hoping to have an insane 2000x1500-ish resolution display for the iPad 3, but due to manufacturing difficulties ended up settling for a lower resolution with originally planned display planned for the iPad 4?

Still the lower, "fall-back" resolution doesn't necessarily mean it won't be a retina display, but given its also rumored that Apple wanted the iPad 3 to debut this year but couldn't because of the display manufacturing, I may just wait for the iPad 4 if the display rumors do appear to be true.
 
Wasn't there a rumor that Apple was hoping to have an insane 2000x1500-ish resolution display for the iPad 3, but due to manufacturing difficulties ended up settling for a lower resolution with originally planned display planned for the iPad 4?

Still the lower, "fall-back" resolution doesn't necessarily mean it won't be a retina display, but given its also rumored that Apple wanted the iPad 3 to debut this year but couldn't because of the display manufacturing, I may just wait for the iPad 4 if the display rumors do appear to be true.

They need to exactly double the current resolution to 2048x1536

Anything else will royally screw over current Apps unless the are rewritten for the new screen, which would be a lot to ask now.
 
I'm ordering the hour it releases. hopefully they don't have 3 week shipping dates like it was for the ipad 2 :(
 
The fact Apple can pre-produce to max out factory capacity then time the switch to a new product ramp is a significant supply chain advantage over competitors.

One reason they can do that is the longer product lives iOS devices have. the 3GS is years old and is the 2nd best selling smart phone, mainly because it can adequately run iOS5 as well as run on current networks at near full speeds.

The iPhone 4S will also have legs over time.

The current news is iPad 3 production just starting to ramp as iPad 2 units are stockpiled. But given Christmas and ever widening global reach at retail, even that is likely going to be quickly depleated, perhaps fast enough to cause a pre-release backlog for ipad3.

Does anyone know if they still actually produce 3GS's or if this is the mother of all refurb activities?

:D

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I shudder to think the amount of power that is required to drive a high retina display of that size. In this day and age of powerful gaming computers and consoles, even they are subjugated to 1080p resolution for the most part.

How is a tablet CPU and GPU going to drive such a rich display?
 
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