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Apple Pulls iOS 12 Beta 7 Update Due to Performance Issues
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I understand your frustration with the beta but your previous post that elicited all these snarky replies suggests that you have unreasonable expectations for the reliability of beta software.
Especially for a device you’re using specifically to test beta software.
They’ve spent months focusing on improving performance for this update... and late into their beta program (which will have already undergone lots of internal testing, before reaching developers), there’s a massive problem with performance that they didn’t spot before? Not good.
As betas progress the number of issues is supposed to go DOWN. That’s the point. To reach beta 7 and introduce a major bug in an update which is supposed to focus solely on bugs and performance isn’t great for public perception.
As betas progress the number of issues is supposed to go DOWN. That’s the point. To reach beta 7 and introduce a major bug in an update which is supposed to focus solely on bugs and performance isn’t great for public perception.
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Speaking as a developer, I don’t know why you’d be so upset about this issue if it were on a device solely used for testing or why you’d refer to a test device as “my X,” and iOS devices take next to no time to restore, but whatever you say...
Look at my post history and the responses, and you'll find all kinds of people on here who call me an Apple hater.
But on this, you're off base. It doesn't matter if they're a garage startup or a $1T company. A beta is a beta. Why would they pay users if users are willing to do this dirty work for free? It's a company, not a non-profit. To do otherwise would be foolish—not to mention in violation of Apple's fiduciary responsibility to its shareholders.
It's a smart program. Don't blame Apple for taking advantage of sheeple's stupidity.
That's weird. I wonder why the performance would get better with time. Oh, by the way, you are famous now!
Oh god. Just like the time the New York Times quoted me on Reddit saying that signing a petition on the internet is the least you can do without doing nothing at all.
Been running B7 since it dropped and I did not have a single issue whatsoever.
Yeah but I can't think of many times they've had to actually pull a beta this late in the process. That a bug that big could make it through a month from launch is not a great sign. By now most of the big bugs should be worked out or at least well documented. They didn't even know it was in there!
That a bug that big would have made it into production, would have been bad. That it was caught in a beta, where these types of bugs are supposed to be caught, is great.
I'm not arguing that it's not a good thing that it was caught! What I'm arguing is that it's pretty late in the process to be finding bugs that big which is a troubling sign that there are other big bugs in there which may not be caught in the time remaining before launch. Do you understand? You expect lots of big bugs early in the process, not late. Therefore it's a troubling sign, nothing more, nothing less.
I understand.
I’m not sure you do. We’re all experts on apple’s software development process because we all understand the software development lifecycle and methodologies.
These types of bugs could actually happen right up until the gm release. So I don’t view this as a troubling sign.
Of course this is about opinions and we each have ours.
Same here. iPhone X (Qualcomm) 64Gig. OTA, about 30 mins after b7 was released. Odd. Working great this morning as well, even after a reboot.
When I may call it as I like, I’d opt for:
Misusing customer eagerness and overhype to compensate the lack of structural internal testing.
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Or one could call it the greatest thing since sliced bread. Whatever it’s called it’s not going to change the outcome.
Apple decided to release it back after reading the macrumor users response. Seems like nobody had the performance issue.
This is not how software engineering works. Fixing bugs (and implementing new features) will sometimes introduce new bugs which will not necessarily be less major than the bug/feature need that preceded the work. In other words, sometimes implementing a new feature or bug fix introduces even worse bugs. It happens! And it’s fixable, of course, but it takes time.
This is why you sometimes see an update or a feature get yanked from a beta to ship in a later release. If it’s not verifiably ready—through unit tests, UI tests, and/or human experience—to ship, it shouldn’t ship.
Hi all, I read through majority of the posts unfortunately after I installed the update. I’m not sure if it’s just me but around the time of an update my device acts extra buggy. Yes I know it’s a beta and bugs are expected however shortly before I get the notification I notice the current build acts up more. Could just be a coincidence so I went into settings and refreshed to see if there was an update.
Anyone else notice this or am I nuts and think I’m the iPhone whisperer?
Sure enough beta 7 was ready to be installed. I looked it up and nothing was mentioned of major issues. I let the update run left my phone on the charger and discovered it was taking longer than usual. Apple logo was on screen for an extended period of time rebooted a few times etc.
When it started up I didn’t get the typical “your device has been updated “ or “what’s new in iOS 12” alerts. After I was finally able to log into my device using my passcode which we all know happens after a restart it was very slow as previously mentioned. Opening up apps, basic functions, closing apps through the app switcher was next to impossible.
I thought I may have been kicked off Wi-Fi and the download did not complete especially because in settings there is still a notification for an update. After doing a reset on my phone and letting it run the badge notification was still there.
I thought due to the bugs the update did not complete but by this point articles started servicing about Apple pulling the update. I did a search to check my software and it in fact was running beta 7. I understand it’s a beta and these things are expected so no need for any reminders in that area. I’m not going to bash Apple for pushing the update too soon if this was anticipated it wouldn’t of been pushed.
I chose to install the beta profile and software I have noticed minor improvements with the lagging and functionality of the phone but it is still not working anywhere near as smoothly as it was in beta 6.
With all that being said I was wondering if anyone previously mentioned or had any thoughts about what the next steps maybe. I looked into downgrading to Beta 6 if the issues were that unbearable however all I saw was reverting back to iOS 11 and if I want reinstalling the beta which would prompt me for 6.
As of now it’s tolerable but I was wondering if anyone else went back to beta 6? Did anyone mention what Apple may do for those of us running 7 or waiting to update from 6? Will there be a new release for 7 (7.?) fixing these issues? Will beta 8 come sooner than expected?
Any thoughts on what’s to come or advice with how to handle beta 7 would be appreciated! I’m running this on an iPhone X.
Anyone else notice this or am I nuts and think I’m the iPhone whisperer?
Sure enough beta 7 was ready to be installed. I looked it up and nothing was mentioned of major issues. I let the update run left my phone on the charger and discovered it was taking longer than usual. Apple logo was on screen for an extended period of time rebooted a few times etc.
When it started up I didn’t get the typical “your device has been updated “ or “what’s new in iOS 12” alerts. After I was finally able to log into my device using my passcode which we all know happens after a restart it was very slow as previously mentioned. Opening up apps, basic functions, closing apps through the app switcher was next to impossible.
I thought I may have been kicked off Wi-Fi and the download did not complete especially because in settings there is still a notification for an update. After doing a reset on my phone and letting it run the badge notification was still there.
I thought due to the bugs the update did not complete but by this point articles started servicing about Apple pulling the update. I did a search to check my software and it in fact was running beta 7. I understand it’s a beta and these things are expected so no need for any reminders in that area. I’m not going to bash Apple for pushing the update too soon if this was anticipated it wouldn’t of been pushed.
I chose to install the beta profile and software I have noticed minor improvements with the lagging and functionality of the phone but it is still not working anywhere near as smoothly as it was in beta 6.
With all that being said I was wondering if anyone previously mentioned or had any thoughts about what the next steps maybe. I looked into downgrading to Beta 6 if the issues were that unbearable however all I saw was reverting back to iOS 11 and if I want reinstalling the beta which would prompt me for 6.
As of now it’s tolerable but I was wondering if anyone else went back to beta 6? Did anyone mention what Apple may do for those of us running 7 or waiting to update from 6? Will there be a new release for 7 (7.?) fixing these issues? Will beta 8 come sooner than expected?
Any thoughts on what’s to come or advice with how to handle beta 7 would be appreciated! I’m running this on an iPhone X.
Mine was slugging and when I went to the Settings app all I got was a white screen for a minute then it finally showed but I couldn't select anything for another few seconds (maybe 20). Relaunching it was still slow. As of this morning everything seems snappy again. I just have the phantom Software Update available flag.
Apple's processor technology is so far ahead of the competition though, right, so surely that should negate any software performance issues ;-)