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And these show stoppers are exactly why they have separate developer and public betas, allowing them to catch critical issues before things get to the wider public testing pool.

Looks like part of the issue may have been lsdiconservice crashing constantly.
 
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Is “7” the same as public beta 6? Because literally about 20 minutes ago I just got notified (through a pop-up) that there is a public beta 5 ready for me to DL and install.

Public beta 5 was released last Monday, 8 Aug, and was identical to DB6. On Monday 13 Apple released DB7, pulling it out a few hours later. So the latest PB released so far remains PB5, build number 16A5345f.
 
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Ok, I’m a developer and I’m pretty sure many people in this forum is also a developer. It doesn’t matter if you are Apple or any other company, if you have a trillion dollars or not. These betas are always coming fast, within 3 or 4 weeks developers must complete the code, fix bugs, work on performance, merge code, work with multiple branches, I guess the build is automatic and then deploy to multiple devices, run automatic tests, regression tests, manual tests, report bugs and then repeat. We can agree that Apple is not the best at quality assurance, and yes, the dev team may not be geniuses, but Apple wants to release entire new OS every year, forget about reusable code from previous versions, even if that saves you half of the time, dev and qa have 365 days to release a new version (most undergraduate tesis take longer than that), why? Because of sales. is not that QA team has no idea how to test, or developers don’t know how to code, they just don’t have the time to do their best job. releasing a build that is immediately pulled, tells you how rushed things are, they probably even skipped smoke tests to favor budget and speed and sacrifice quality and features.

For the ones complaining about people not knowing what a beta is, remember that the OS will be released in what, 2 or 3 months? And at this moment Apple cut at least one feature, maybe because it takes more time than expected or maybe because they need the resources to complete and fix other parts of the OSs. While I agree that a beta can have bugs, it is puzzling what caused such a bug at this stage, they don’t pay us to tell them how to run their business, but as users, many of us have to deal with the lack of quality in software and hardware, however the majority is happy with having something new every year (except for Pro users) regardless if it works or no, otherwise they wouldn't have the money they have.
 
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How much do you want to bet that those saying it "goes away" after 5 minutes are simply tapping on Apps that are already running? So seems to load "instantly". A restart or force close would probably bring the issue "back".
It's really not the case. After a while any app opens as quickly as with previous betas, even the ones that are not in memory and even after a restart.
 
Amazing how many people don't know what a beta is.

There should still be sufficient testing to ensure that major issues like this don't appear very soon after release. Pulling the release so soon does not deserve the congratulations that some people have been giving to Apple. It looks very bad that they let out something like this.
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What did they do that is damn impressive? They made an update unavailable.

Yes, and more to the point, to stop a pretty bad issue going out. Face saving, no less.
 
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And IOS 12 is supposed to be faster on older phones? I sense an epic fail in the making. :(
It seems they're doing this by speeding up old phones (my 6S has never been as fast!) and slowing down newer ones :) I'm ok with that. I want to sit in a cafe with my 16GB 6S and whizz through apps while someone with an X is waiting for them to load. I reserve the right to completely change my mind once I upgrade my phone.

So this may sound like a stupid question. But I still have beta 7 installed on my phone. When they reintroduce the beta again. Will it prompt me to download beta 7 again?
I would expect so. I managed to OTA the beta as soon as it was released and it's running very well on my phone. On the basis they're not just hiding it for a day before releasing exactly the same build for a laugh, then yes it will no doubt trigger a re-download for all of us who already have it. It'll be iOS12 beta 7.1 or something.
 
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Literally a beta not meant for daily use. Betas are for ironing out these bugs so public launch never sees this. Quit with the sensationalism and “back in my day” stuff. Don’t install a BETA if you don’t want to put up with some bugs.
I would argue that betas is great for daily use, how else will you find the bugs if you do not use your phone as you would normally. We are looking for behavior diverting from the norm or not being as expected, here more time gives a broader range and adds situations which might not come to light in a short use.

I will however support that no one who wants stability, performance and ease of use should ever join a beta just to be on the latest and greatest.
 
Those performance issues have been with me since the first beta. I was not sure whether it was the beta or my iPhone 8. I am relieved to see others have seen the same effect.
 
Glad I’m still on Pb5. IOS 12 had made my iPhone X a lot faster and “snappier” but the recent builds Pb4 and 5 also brought some bugs: sometimes my phone freezes for some moments and won’t react to anything; some apps freeze and have to get restarted and some apps fail while launching and can’t be opened anymore. I’ll assume that will get worked out until the final build this autumn.

Apart from that, while not much has changed, iOS 12 is what 11 should have been. Small but good improvements and faster overall.
 
The problem is not that there is a performance issue when its in beta...

the problem is the issues continue in official releases. Now I am no programmer, but at least up until the mid-2000s software including videogames used to be released and no one complained except in rare occasions. Today we see day 1 patch updates.

Developers seem not to care including Apple.
 
I think it is important to remind ourselves that this is a beta. And the whole idea of a beta is to run into problems like this early so that it does not get into the official release.

There weren't nearly as many people using smartphones in the early to mid 2000s as there are now.

When you make a software release for a user base that is in the millions with ever growing complexity, there's inherently more risk and problems. They pulled the update and are revising, this is a good thing.
 
I think it is important to remind ourselves that this is a beta. And the whole idea of a beta is to run into problems like this early so that it does not get into the official release.

There weren't nearly as many people using smartphones in the early to mid 2000s as there are now.

When you make a software release for a user base that is in the millions with ever growing complexity, there's inherently more risk and problems. They pulled the update and are revising, this is a good thing.

It doesn't matter how many people end up using something, it all starts with a proper testing regime. This should include automation and even a third party company running their own test suite. Something showing up so soon after release does not inspire confidence in a company that can afford to literally anything that it wants to.
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Isn't it? Their expert opinion was that the software release should be pulled.

You didn't have to be an experienced software engineer to know that it wasn't fit for purpose.
 
I updated to beta 7 yesterday, thankfully the bug where enabling assistive touch makes the keyboard unusable is finally fixed. I haven't had any performance issues yet though.
 
Beta testing means testing betas. Install on your daily driver at your own risk.

This is beta device, thanks for the tip.
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It’s almost like you installed an iOS beta or something.

Yeah, on a beta device an now I must waste the time to restore it.
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It's called a BETA - By their very nature, BETA software has bugs. You're only supposed to use it for testing on devices you don't rely on.

This is beta device, thanks for the tip. Next snarky response?
 
I updated to beta 7 yesterday, thankfully the bug where enabling assistive touch makes the keyboard unusable is finally fixed. I haven't had any performance issues yet though.

I haven't noticed any performance issues, either - everything is still very "snappy."
 
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