It’s not just the bubbles, as dozen of people have pointed out. It’s the want for cross-platform iMessage.
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This was totally expected no doubt. no way apple would let a company make money off their product.
Aka blue bubbles.
If you want cross platform messages we have been had that for nearly 2 decades now with various messaging apps that exists.
I rather y’all just admit you want blue bubbles. Because you keep denying blue bubbles want yet you want iMessage aka blue bubbles lmao.
You’re getting RCS and you’re still wanting blue bubbles.
So as I said many many many times. android users want blue bubbles because android users are the ones who care about color. Not iPhone users.
I mean green literally is androids color 😂🤣
I haven’t actively used WhatsApp in awhile. Can you sms through it.
These days in America, for the 15-35 demographic it seems Snapchat is more the go to these days.
No. If I send a text I don’t notice whether it is sent as SMS or iMessage. If an Android user receives an SMS, they now have my phone number, which enables them to send a Whatsapp message back. If they have an iPhone, they will typically just reply with iMessage. I do have a meaningful amount of people insisting on FB Messenger, which annoys the crap out of me.
I don’t communicate much with that demographic, but my perception is you are right.
I think the idea of one unified messaging platform that everyone uses is a pipe dream. That ship has sailed. We might as well just get used to fragmented messaging.
You think anyone buys Apple to get iMessage? LOL
Nobody cares about iMessage. It's not impressive. I as a Apple user want to be safe and secure, and Apple is keeping me away from thar goal by disallowing me to use the standard first party SMS service to use standardized RCP. It's a matter of security and not iMessage.
I think some people don’t buy Android to keep it. Not exclusively, but as a piece of the lock-in puzzle. The logic is simple, if it wasn’t so, Apple wouldn’t make it.
People on here get so wound up, If you use Android that's a choice, so is iOS I have both and like the Pixel 8 and the iPhone 14 Pro 1TB. Apples's iMessage should be universal, not held in the claw like clutch of iOS users only. It makes chatting with friends who don't use iOS a total pain.
I don't use WhatsApp or any of the other apps, I text simple as that and my phone be it Android or iOS based should be able to just send any colour bubble as if the colour even even matters. The fact that phones can't send images etc unless you pay dumb prices for picture messaging to Android phones and vice versa without downloading yet more apps feels almost juvenile.
Android and iOS phones should be open to messaging each other without this ridiculous tussle between Google and Apple, iMessage is just a messaging app, it's not a family heirloom. Communication should be open to whatever phone you like, this thread has so much negativity about comunicating with other people because they use a different phone OS, that just seems totally rediculous to me.
I don't use WhatsApp or any of the other apps, I text simple as that and my phone be it Android or iOS based should be able to just send any colour bubble as if the colour even even matters. The fact that phones can't send images etc unless you pay dumb prices for picture messaging to Android phones and vice versa without downloading yet more apps feels almost juvenile.
Android and iOS phones should be open to messaging each other without this ridiculous tussle between Google and Apple, iMessage is just a messaging app, it's not a family heirloom. Communication should be open to whatever phone you like, this thread has so much negativity about comunicating with other people because they use a different phone OS, that just seems totally rediculous to me.
Don’t understand why this is an issue in the US. If Apple wants to exclude half the population, then why not all move to another platform that everyone can access: Telegram, Signal, WhatsApp, Messenger, … the list is endless. Seems the entire world moved on, except the US.
Look, Apple made the strategic error over a decade ago not to open up iMessage and FaceTime (even after Steve announced they would). They could have owned the biggest global messaging platform, but they don’t. And now they never will. Sad but true.
Look, Apple made the strategic error over a decade ago not to open up iMessage and FaceTime (even after Steve announced they would). They could have owned the biggest global messaging platform, but they don’t. And now they never will. Sad but true.
Who in their right mind didn’t see this coming?
If there’s no legislation preventing Apple from making iMessage exclusive to its products then hacking your way to get it to work on non-Apple devices is theft of intellectual property.
If there’s no legislation preventing Apple from making iMessage exclusive to its products then hacking your way to get it to work on non-Apple devices is theft of intellectual property.
It was always going to happen. The best you can ask for is RCS. However, if Apple want to keep iMessage as an ecosystem specific feature you can’t force them to put it in other platforms. I am all in on the Apple ecosystem but I personally couldn’t care less about iMessage. However if I was that bothered about having it, like Tim says buy an iPhone.
I agree.
Not true. We've got full (root) access to the MacOS. That means it is possible to inject our own trusted cert or patch iMessage/iCloud related files to not rely on Apple's certificate. With that, you are able to perform SSL strip and sniff the communication in MitM attack.
So unless Apple is putting some unique long key into every iMessage compatible device and keeps database of such keys and those keys are long enough, so it is not possible to guess them (i.e. Apple devices serial number is not long enough, you can brute force this). So unless Apple is doing this, there's not any ultimate solution for Apple to detect whether you are coming from device spoofing itself as Apple device or whether you are real Apple device. All other attempts, except unique key burned in to each Apple device, means Apple will just make it harder for reverse engineering, but not impossible. It would be cat and mouse game.
That still doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The whole point was simply so that Android users could participate in things like group chats and that everything in the chat would flow normally like iMessage. It really isn't that big of a deal.
I'm still failing to see what the negatives are. I mean I'm an iPhone user but I don't begrudge someone who wants to use Android. What are the negatives you are seeing here again?
Nah that's not it. You could skip the phone number and tie it directly to your Apple ID and they still blocked the service.
Those puerile iOS vs Android wars are so funny, like those PC vs Mac of yesterday
And better when I am on both sides (S22 and i14) and like both OS.
And better when I am on both sides (S22 and i14) and like both OS.
Maybe repeat instead what plenty of other people are saying which is just wanting cross platform utility
Lmao what? There a bajillion cross platform apps that are free Apple would look ridiculous charging for this
Why so desperate to give Apple everything jeez
Not true. Maybe Android users in US? Definitely not in the EU. Majority of ppl are using Whatsapp or Telegram there.
So they really do not care about message colors in the iPhone's messaging app. And definitely not Android users (because guess what, they don't see those iPhone message app colors).
Why Apple’s iMessage Is Winning: Teens Dread the Green Text Bubble
The iPhone maker cultivated iMessage as a must-have blue-bubble texting tool for teens. Android users trigger a just-a-little-less-cool green bubble: “Ew, that’s gross.”
www.wsj.com
Yeah, it's the US iPhone users who care about green bubbles. The article above is just one of many.
Eddy Cue literally said that iMessage costs them virtually nothing to run as it piggybacks off of their other infrastructure, like APN.
It‘s part of the Apple v Epic trial leaked mails and was one of the reasons Cue wanted iMessage on Android: because it‘s essentially a drop in the ocean for them in terms of upkeep.
Never happened because the vast majority of Apple execs play into the whole ecosystem lock-in stigma iMessage provides, so they dismissed his proposal.