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Apple Puts a Stop to Beeper Mini's iMessage for Android Feature
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Apple Pay for and provide the infrastructure. This is paid for through the sale of their own hardware. If Apple wanted to open up iMessage to Android users then that is a decision for them to make. I think they should make iMessage cross platform but charge for it on Android. Maybe $9.99 per month which includes 5GB of message storage.
How is it not “defeating it’s security”? It is clearly an unauthorised use of a network system. There’s no requirement on how secure a security system needs to be before you can call it “hacking” to use it in an unauthorised way. You are abusing the bandwith of a server designed for a different use.
If someone leaves their car unlocked with the keys in the ignition, it still doesn’t give you the right to take it (which I have witnessed people claim, IRL)
100% agree. A phone number is absolutely not an Apple ID.
If I ever become a tech startup CEO, I’ll make a point of not underestimating or provoking Apple.
This whole debacle reminds me of that Pebble Watch CEO downplaying the threat posed by the Apple Watch. Maybe these two should become friends?
This whole debacle reminds me of that Pebble Watch CEO downplaying the threat posed by the Apple Watch. Maybe these two should become friends?
They are not free. If they are free, how did Whatsapp reach one billion USD revenue? Signal is a non-profit, that runs on donations, that doesn’t mean it doesn’t carry a cost. Whatsapp you pay for through mining of your data. Telegram has premium options that costs money.
Could Apple afford that cost? Of course. Apple could buy a Christmas present for every citizen on the globe. But Apple is not a non-profit. Access to iMessage on Android could be a very valid paid service that Apple could potentially offer, so of course they can’t allow third parties to gain unauthorised access.
Agreed, but, Whatsapp is not free. You pay with your data, and Whatsapp has a revenue of a billion dollars.
Yeah, it’s almost like they are trying to earn money.
Uh… It’s literally the same guy. I guess some people never learn.
Simple: They estimate that their revenue loss elsewhere (i.e. less people buying iPhones that provide both direct and indirect revenue) would be higher.
Apple already makes money on Android users, with Apple Music. Clearly they have a different calculation there. And that calculation is/should be Apple’s right to make.
So, because you are in India, you know how the EU works? I use probably 80% iMessage. I don’t know a single person using Telegram.
I do agree that the “blue bubble” fascination is a US thing though.
Find new friends 😁
This is very interesting, and I think you should report back on whether he will be succesful: You can’t do it from your side, you need to ask your friend to de-register from iMessage:
Deregister and Turn Off iMessage - Apple Support
Learn how to deregister iMessage. Be sure you can keep getting text messages by providing the phone number you want to deregister from iMessage.
Whether this will work when he never officially registered in the first place is highly interesting.
My company makes globally distributed premium hardware products. The amount of iOS vs Android users among our customers is about 8 to 1. Even though there are many more Android users in the world. On average, Android users simply don’t buy premium products, which is why iOS is a much more desirable platform to access, than Android.
It’s ironically androids ability to side load and pirate apps that is why there is less paid app adoption.
I wonder what it would like if iOS allows side loading
Just because some messenger apps have ads, doesn’t mean Apple would need to do that on Android. Why do you think that’s inevitable?
Google literally has dozens of free apps and services which are fully supported and updated regularly on iOS, most without ads. Sometimes, those apps get features before their Android counterparts. They literally brought free turn-by-turn GPS navigation to older iPhones when Apple wouldn’t.
People request features all the time. The difference is that iMessage has become somewhat of a social network in the sense that it contains years of interactions. You shouldn’t have to throw that all away because you chose to buy a different brand phone. You shouldn’t have to bother your friends by making them use different apps/protocols if you switch to Android.
Where can the goalposts move from there? SMS was overdue for an upgrade, and RCS fulfills that need. iMessage on Android would have its own set of benefits. It would be the final nail in coffin in this dumb saga over bubbles.
They do have a point. iMessage is not commonly used in Europe.
I spent a many of summers there and it’s why I had to get used to using telegram and whatsapp.
The blue bubble phenomena is an android based narrative. As an American iMessage user, most do not care
That no one cares about except android users lmao.
If you asked me to stereotype this, I have now had four people bragging, two of them trying to belittle my choice, because they have a foldable. Which I of cause find hilariously clueless. It’s been years since I heard anyone brag that they have an iPhone, because (here) that’s what everyone has.
Sir please take a look at the name of this website. This isn’t a one-sided thing. You’ve been replying to Apple users that disagree with you on this throughout the day.
1: This just highlights the trend that Android users don’t want to pay for stuff.
2: I am not willing to believe that the majority of Android users is side loading or pirating. Those are power user concepts. The majority of Android users just want a cheap phone. This is not a stereotype, but a fact - I am not saying “all”, but the majority. The majority of users among both platforms don’t have the skill or interest to side load apps.
When people talk about “everyone”, it’s usually really “a small group of people that are similar to myself”. Not in fact the majority. (I just did it myselfs a couple of posts ago…)
Show me an Apple user in this thread that cares about blue bubble.
This is because Whatsapp etc is used as a replacement for SMS, not as a replacement for iMessage. SMS is much more used in US than in Europe. Almost all Whatsapp threads I have were started by an Android user, because they stopped using SMS. If I send a text to an Android user, most of them will reply back using Whatsapp (I think Telegram is an Eastern Europe thing?)