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WOW! AGAIN? TROUBLE IN INDIA?

These People are not thankful to be working and have jobs?

You can walk away from a job or just quit.

You don't have to protest or destroy other peoples stuff.

If only Ashley and Cher were there to organize those rabble rousers..
 
What do these workers “deserve”? What is the value of their labor relative to the local job market? What would these people do and what would they earn without these foreign investments and how much better would their life be?
Why don’t you ask the questions in reverse, and see if that solves both problems?

Also, I don’t think China needs foreign investments. They are lending to the world it seems, the US included. What they need is advanced technology know how.

Not sure about India, but those Foxconn workers in China will still be employed elsewhere if Economic slavery never happened. It would only have accelerated industrial upgrade.
 
I'm sort of surprised the entire assembly process isn't automated by now. I wonder if the technology exists to fully assemble phones and laptops 100% by automation?
The technology probably exists given that Liam exists, but it’s probably not very cost efficient. Each new generation and new configuration will need a new automation process that will cost way too much just to be changed a year later. Look at how much trouble Tesla had with automating the Model 3 manufacturing, and that was for components much larger than the iPhone’s.
 
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Those Uyghur workers are usually seen selling foods on the streets throughout China, or dwelling in their illegal cellar mosques, but thanks to extensive government programs to eradicate radicalism and poverty, Uyghurs are increasingly seen in textile production and other sorts of manufacturing, mainly in Xinjiang. Not in cotton, though, as that industry is nearly fully automated, but maybe soon in rare earth production? Come again, you want to boycott rare earths??

Anyway, the reason Apple has manufacturing in China has little to do with low wages, and the more to do with the Chinese ability to set up and automate production lines, the logistics and infrastructure, ample supply of skilled workers, that is all the stuff that is lacking in both India and the US.

So you couldn't bring the jobs back to America, because you don't have the facilities, you don't have the skilled workforce, you don't have the supply chain of electronics components that are available in Shenzhen, you don't even have the assembly work force needed to assemble those phones.

India less so.

Pretty sure assembly could be done in US as we had a foxxconn factory for the 5C here in Brazil and it worked without any issues.

You really forgot to mention how the capitalist American loves que comunist China for obvious reasons. Full state control over speech, major infrastructure channels and technology people can use.

Funny tho' they won't allow a little island to the east of its florida state to live like that.
 
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Let them pay base model iPhone at $5000. People don’t even upgrade iPhone every year anymore, so such price hike won’t matter as much.
No need, Apple simply should take a smaller cut of the pie. 38% should be dropped to 25% and it will be good for Human Rights…
 
It's possible for iPhone to be made in the US.

Look at Louis Vuitton.

If all iPhones can be sold at the price of Louis Vuitton with the quality and design of Coach, then it's possible.
It’s not a question of whether it’s possible, but of know-how of mid-end manufacturing and and infrastructure. The 2013 Mac Pro was assembled in the US, but Apple had so much trouble with supply chain despite it being such a low volume product that they never did the same with other products. Now even some non-US Mac Pro production has been moved back to China. Louis Vuitton bags need thousands less components than what is inside an iPhone. You will need massive investments in supply chains to make it work, and even then Apple will have trouble getting enough skilled assembly line workers that can make enough for the global market, especially during the production ramp up every fall.
 
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WOW! AGAIN? TROUBLE IN INDIA?

These People are not thankful to be working and have jobs?

You can walk away from a job or just quit.

You don't have to protest
You do have to protest. Without workers protesting, corporate overlords will continue to exploit the worker. Hail, if it weren't for our grandfathers and great-grandfathers protesting, child labor would still be a thing in 'Merica. The sooner the working class realize they are the majority--united, that they wield the power--the sooner they undue the exploitation.

Look at what happened in Iceland in 1975. Women demanded equal rights and were ignored. So the women walked out on their jobs, walked out on their home duties. Us manly men folk were overwhelmed by the workload and caved. Icelandic women earned their equal rights and five years later elected their first female leader.

You do have to protest.

I don’t care. It’s easy 2 find job these days
Don't I know it. I've got 3 jobs.? Finding an well paying and easy job, now that's ain't easy unless you've got some rich relatives or know some corrupt politicians. Don't believe the "hard work pays off" BS Corporate America spouts, eg. ever heard of a rich donkey??
 
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Apple trying the whole ‘surprised pikachu’ face whenever one of their factories has human rights violations is really not convincing anyone anymore.
 
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Pretty sure assembly could be done in US as we had a foxxconn factory for the 5C here in Brazil and it worked without any issues.

You really forgot to mention how the capitalist American loves que comunist China for obvious reasons. Full state control over speech, major infrastructure channels and technology people can use.

Funny tho' they won't allow a little island to the east of its florida state to live like that.
Brazil imposes very high import tarrifs on foreign made goods, which is similar to what India does. Without those tarrifs it wouldn’t even come close to being cost effective for the iPhone to be assembled in Brazil. And even today Apple has kept Brazilian assembly limited to lower volume products and never exported it widely outside of Brazil.
 
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I'm sort of surprised the entire assembly process isn't automated by now. I wonder if the technology exists to fully assemble phones and laptops 100% by automation?
Robot hands are still not good enough yet. Besides, fully automated assembly can’t work everywhere and we’d lose an easy source to mitigate unemployment issue.
So maybe the workers should be suing the consumers? :oops:
Maybe? Prolly because customers are the other half of this toxic reality we live in and directly contributes to what we have today.
 
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Cost of shifting production from an authoritarian regime to the World’s largest democracy…
Nothing wrong with workers fighting for improving their rights and living conditions. I am French so maybe it’s cultural bias? Lots of angry Americans here talking about the destruction of private property of the world’s largest corporation like it’s an absolute sin. Go Indian workers and hopefully this will lead to Foxconn improving conditions for their employees globally, including in China where they don’t have freedom to protest.
This is not even remotely accurate. Protesting labor conditions in a factory geographically located in China is raising a dispute with Foxconn leadership— a private company from Taiwan. If we are still counting, this is classic exploitation of workers rights in favor of large corporate power. China's government at most would "over-regulate" Foxconn, not defend them. They are not even a domestic company.
 
eg. ever heard of a rich donkey??

I was told donkey kong made a fortune out of the game’s royalties. Same with the donkey who worked on sharek so, yea. Unfortunately Eeyore from Winnie the Pooh lost everything after a divorce and problems with substances.
 
No need, Apple simply should take a smaller cut of the pie. 38% should be dropped to 25% and it will be good for Human Rights…

Lol. You saw many movies. If a company do that, competition will produce for less and use these resources for more advertising, bigger factories or even cheaper products. The goal of a company is to produce for the lowest price possible and sale to the maximum price people are willing to pay. Do u know how much money is 13% of apple’s revenue? They won’t just ‘drop 13%’ Shareholders will kill tim and his wife.
 
For all of Apple's record setting profits, you'd think they could at least try to go the extra mile instead of cutting corners.

They've become the worst of both the pirates and the navy and make Microsoft from the 1980s and 1990s look almost benevolent by comparison.
The fact that Apple audited and put the factory on probation imo showed good faith from Apple’s side. The one in question is Foxconn. Even in China, we have seen news about Foxconn managers doing shenanigans.
 
Lol. You saw many movies. If a company do that, competition will produce for less and use these resources for more advertising, bigger factories or even cheaper products. The goal of a company is to produce for the lowest price possible and sale to the maximum price people are willing to pay. Do u know how much money is 13% of apple’s revenue? They won’t just ‘drop 13%’ Shareholders will kill tim and his wife.
Tim Cook has a wife?
 
A good lesson to learn. People have rights, respect those rights and you will get a more productive and happier workforce, disrespect those rights and…… you have China.
You can’t measure your success by $$$$ alone, people matter, or more clearly, poor people matter.
 
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Apple products need to be made in the USA.

Exploiting foreign workers should not be in their playbook even if they use intermediary companies like gloves.
unfortunately we literally do not have the kind of work force necessary to do this.
also... you think these people have it bad now? imagine if they didn't have apple. that would be 0 income.
 
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A good lesson to learn. People have rights, respect those rights and you will get a more productive and happier workforce, disrespect those rights and…… you have China.
You can’t measure your success by $$$$ alone, people matter, or more clearly, poor people matter.

It depends. It couldn’t care me less about these overseas employees ‘happiness’ as long they produce for a low price a good product that we can buy cheaper in the US. I respect your pov but there are many.
 
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This is one area where automation would be a plus. They are clearly lousy jobs, so automate it, build them here to cut the emissions it takes to ship them here, which would take away the money from Communist China.
 
I've spent time in Chennai. It's an interesting place. I've visited factories (including watch maker Titan) and have seen how employees there can be treated. There is no excuse for this and Apple is smart to get ahead of this before it becomes an even bigger problem.
 
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I would be interested to know where the issues are coming from. Clearly someone at Foxconn is to blame - I would be surprised if Foxconn relied purely on local managers to run the Indian plants but you never know. I wonder if this is a case of Indian corporate / caste culture not yet being aligned with Apple's expectations (or Foxconn's).

Don't really see what Apple is doing wrong: they need hundreds of millions of devices assembling and offered out a tender to do the work that came with conditions for worker rights and safety etc. Foxconn accepted the price and the terms and have been caught breaching the terms. Obviously, Foxconn will pay financially from the loss of months of manufacturing, but I would hope Apple includes large penelty fines for rights breaches to severely discourage them. Of course, Foxconn could tell Apple to fond another manufacturer, but I cant see the shareholders/owners of Foxconn being too happy with that.
 
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