Moving to Display Port isn't a bad idea I guess, but I'm not clear on if their connector can be easily adapted to regular Display Port. That one monitor should at the LEAST use a regular Display Port connection with an adapter for their mini connection (and of course really it should also include DVI, etc.)
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Apple Quietly Updates Entry-Level White MacBook
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Moving to Display Port isn't a bad idea I guess, but I'm not clear on if their connector can be easily adapted to regular Display Port. That one monitor should at the LEAST use a regular Display Port connection with an adapter for their mini connection (and of course really it should also include DVI, etc.)
HDMI requires royalty fees whereas DisplayPort (a VESA-standard) does not. There are other advantages as well.
hahahahahahah... um, in that case the vast majority of Mac Rumours members need to log off now
I forgot. The internet seems to prevent proper discourse and only allows for hyperbole.
That made my day right there. I think I might sig that last part if you don't mind.
I'd send it back and get the updated version. The improved GPU set is definitely worth it if you ever plan to run any kind of game on it at all, even old ones and Snow Leopard may eventually have some software that can take advantage of it with OpenCL as well.
I don't know how anyone can say Firewire is dead when FW400 consistently beats USB 2.0 for external hard drive transfers, let alone FW800 and it's not that hard to find models that have Firewire support even at places like Best Buy (I bought a WD Passport Studio 500GB 7200RPM FW400/800/USB2.0 drive at Best Buy and use it with my MBP's FW800 port and it's way faster than the internal Sata drive and you can boot from it instead of it even). And yes, the best audio breakout boxes are for Firewire only. Maybe the average consumer doesn't need Firewire, but who wants to be average? It's more of a shame Apple has adopted/implemented FW3200. Yes, USB 3.0 sounds great on paper, but it'll be another 6 months to a year before its readily available to the consumer and it remains to be seen how it'll work out in practice (USB 2.0 on paper is faster than FW400, but in practice it's slower and eats up CPU cycles).
In any case, if you have a need or use for it, it's not dead to you. It's also the only way my older PowerMac server can boot off an external drive.
We've got know-it-alls at where I work that remind me of him. They don't have many friends and don't know a fifth as much as they think they do, but they'll argue your ear off until you just don't bother talking to them anymore.
Thank god came accross this website!
I ordered a white macbook like 2 weeks ago, i was unsure which to get for ages, ended up getting the white one as i couldnt afford the aluminion one, that i could have done with the graphics card from.
So, i just got off the phone to apple, they are replacing my 2.1ghz white macbook with the newer one, no charges, no nothing!
I'm sure the extra gig of ram and newer graphics card will easily make up for the 0.1ghz loss from the processor.
The only downside is, i'll be without my macbook for 2 weeks or so, and i'll have to use windows! I can live with that though!
I ordered a white macbook like 2 weeks ago, i was unsure which to get for ages, ended up getting the white one as i couldnt afford the aluminion one, that i could have done with the graphics card from.
So, i just got off the phone to apple, they are replacing my 2.1ghz white macbook with the newer one, no charges, no nothing!
I'm sure the extra gig of ram and newer graphics card will easily make up for the 0.1ghz loss from the processor.
The only downside is, i'll be without my macbook for 2 weeks or so, and i'll have to use windows! I can live with that though!
Yes, this has happend to others. Their orders were placed right when the new ones are released, so Apple just fills the orders with the new ones.
Congrats!
As discussed in the FW thread, the design of the unibody MacBook has less space for ports than the polycarbonate MacBook due in part to the battery cover latch and K-slot design. Something had to be sacrificed, and clearly Apple chose to sacrifice FireWire. The "blank aluminum" caused by the relocation of the K-slot was filled in with the battery meter.
Well I bought the 'missus one early December for her Xmas. .. my how I laughed less than a month after they bring it out .. they did their usual trick of upgrading .. but this really took the biscuit even by their standards... anyway now I have a less-for-the-money notebook - my question to the panel is:
Bought early December .. no chance of ringing and asking to upgrade for the latest?. Ok .. just an idea. Other than the thing blowing up in the guarantee period - I suppose Im stuck with v.1 of the White Macbook.... Cheers again, Steve!
Bought early December .. no chance of ringing and asking to upgrade for the latest?. Ok .. just an idea. Other than the thing blowing up in the guarantee period - I suppose Im stuck with v.1 of the White Macbook.... Cheers again, Steve!
Never buy a Mac before MacWorld.Well I bought the 'missus one early December for her Xmas. .. my how I laughed less than a month after they bring it out .. they did their usual trick of upgrading .. but this really took the biscuit even by their standards... anyway now I have a less-for-the-money notebook - my question to the panel is:
Bought early December .. no chance of ringing and asking to upgrade for the latest?. Ok .. just an idea. Other than the thing blowing up in the guarantee period - I suppose Im stuck with v.1 of the White Macbook.... Cheers again, Steve!
Snow Leopard should run fine. You just won't get the benefit of running OpenCL with the Nvidia GPU.
As also discussed in the FW thread, that explanation is a red herring. There is absolutely no reason a FW port couldn't have been included if that had been part of the design criteria from the start. The reason FW was left off of the new Macbook is to force more buyers onto the higher-margin MBP.
That sounds like a design error to me. Wouldn't you make sure that the design accommodated the necessary ports?
Form wins over function again.
Not bad. Hmm... it is kinda making holding out on the mac Mini even harder. I mean if I can get this then hmmm... Urgh!!! Geewhy can't they do what everyone expects??!?!?!?!?!?
you should be holding off on a mac mini anyway its due for an update as well. i think a macbook is better then a macmini anyway but thats just my opinion.
Being defective and having deliberate design flaws are two different things.
My claims are backed by REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE not synthetic benchmarks. And I'm not certainly not going to make and post a video for a couple of people on a forum who don't know what they're talking about and are just trying to justify their belief that the weaker unit is the better unit.
Also, those links you provided just now are what? Three chipset revisions old now? Completely irrelevant. You yourself said you can't find anything new. Things have changed a lot in the last year and a half, almost 2 years since DDR3 was introduced. We've had several chipset revisions and, in the case of the GeForce 9400M, chipsets designed around DDR3.
No, there isn't glare. As I said, I've used my glossy displays in every type of environment and I have yet to experience any type of "glare".
Well, why did you buy a camcorder that was Firewire based? Don't try to tell me that "miniDV requires Firewire" like some posters have, when its not even part of the spec. There are more USB based cameras than Firewire.
You don't need Firewire for external HDDs either.
Why would they use Firewire when USB 2 is available? Better yet, why use Firewire at all when eSATA is faster than all currently available Firewire and USB standards?
eSATA has been around for awhile now. No reason Apple couldn't have included a hybrid eSATA/USB 2 port like nearly every PC manufacturer does.
Go look at Amazon's top 100 seller list for video cameras. All but about a dozen are USB based. Firewire is dead for video.
OS X has problems handling external displays properly anyway. But as far as I've read, the only people having problems with HDMI and the new MacBooks would be Samsung TV owners. I've had no problem with my plastic MacBook or my unibody MacBook connected to my LCD TV via HDMI and the appropriate adapters.
If audio professionals are relying on Apple notebooks and OS X to make music, then they fail at their jobs.
And as far as video goes, again, go to Amazon. Higher quality than DV cams are USB based.
Why do I need Target Disk Mode again? So I can connect two Macs together? No thanks. No reason I can't boot off of a USB drive or optical disc.
Not true outside of OS X.
And as I said earlier in my post, if someone is relying on OS X on an Apple notebook then they fail at their job as a musician. The best way to go for audio is a PC desktop running Windows.
Only on OS X is USB 2.0 slower, and only on OS X does it eat up a noticeable amount of CPU cycles.
Thats funny, because everything I say comes from real world experience building and maintaining PCs for more than a decade now. I won't even touch that immature child like friends remark
I generally despise people like that. It's just weird that he seems to have hate for Apple, yet is still affected by the RDF in regards to certain aspects of Apple's computer design. Makes no sense to me.
After reading his above post, I don't know if I want to try to go around and around again. Maybe later. It made me laugh though.
I do have one thing to say to mosx: Your small sphere of reality is not indicative of the entire world.
I have a PC and a Mac, with an external hard drive which has both USB2 (Oxford chipset) and FW400. On both platforms, USB 2 is slower than Firewire for large data transfers. In my professional industry experience I have found this to be the case as well.
Not completely. Most of the people that come into where I work to buy a MacBook (or external hard drive or most anything) don't care or don't know about FireWork. I work at a university bookstore. I deal with Apple's target demographic for the MacBook at work. FireWire isn't necessary, not for these people. The number of people that don't care or don't know about FireWire > the number of people that do. Form and function go hand in hand.
Just yesterday, actually, this occurred:
Customer- "Hi, what's the difference between the MacBook Pro and the MacBook?"
Me- "Well, the MacBook lacks FireWire."
*customer looks completely baffled*
Me- "Do you have audio equipment, external hard drives that use FireWire, or camcorders?"
Customer- "No, I assume that's what FireWire's for? I'll just take a MacBook, then."
It's not a one-time occurrence. Some people even come in saying they don't need FireWire straight-up.
Take a holiday - you've got work on the brain...
If that's the only difference you can point out between a Macbook Pro and a Macbook, I'd recommend you seek further product training. Sorry to sound mean.
Haha, if this is the angle that you use your computer on, then you've got other issues my friend...
Glare? or am i mistaken.
i just saw the picture and decided to put it up as well. i assure you i'm quite normal. or so i think