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If the Air isn't retina it had better bloody be higher resolution, either that or a lot cheaper, getting beyond a joke now.

I've been waiting a long time to upgrade my 2010 11" MBA. If the screen on the updated model isn't any better, I'll continue to wait longer. Maybe I'll have to wait until they get IGZO retina screens.

I'm willing to pay top dollar for that, otherwise no new MBA for me.
 
I know many Apple Laptop owners (most from work that are editors/graphics people like myself). The only thing we all want that is upgradable is the Video Card....everything else is fine as is. Storage you just put your projects when done externally on drives, usb sticks, blu-rays/dvds (yep with an external..who the F cares), etc. HD/Memory..most buy upfront so it's already max'd.

So really most 'upgrades' at least for us are about the VC...but I've never heard of anyone saying ...well Im not buying another MBP...they sure arent going to buy something else.

I've upgraded the hard drive on my pre-unibody MBP. Total pain in the behind getting all the screws out, replacing the hard drive and then putting the case back on. <shudders> Those things were a nightmare. White, pre-unibody MacBooks are a lot easier, but were way underpowered. Slow as heck.
 
I've upgraded the hard drive on my pre-unibody MBP. Total pain in the behind getting all the screws out, replacing the hard drive and then putting the case back on. <shudders> Those things were a nightmare. White, pre-unibody MacBooks are a lot easier, but were way underpowered. Slow as heck.

I did that twice on my old 2007 classic MacBook Pro and I know your pain. The unibody design is a lot easier to get into, although it still involves 10 screws just the get the bottom off, of course.

I'm planning on upgrading my Mac's storage (possibly an SSD/HDD combo with an optical drive bay) and I'll also be upgrading the RAM to 16GB.

I love that my Mac is upgradeable, but when I eventually come to replacing it, I guess I'll have to save up and make sure I get the very best specs available at the time and buy immediately after an update.
 
If I were buying a new laptop now and the only choices Apple had were the Air and the rMBP, I'd buy a Thinkpad! Sorry Apple, but lighter and thiner doesn't help me get my job done.

Couldn't have said it better myself, maybe :D
 
The last iteration of the non-retina macbook pro models will [edit: probably] be the last macbook that I ever buy. I hope I can ride it out until someone else makes a nice enough alternative.
 
What about improvements to the display of the rMBP? I'm really interested in upgrading to one once Haswell comes out but I've read so many issues online about discoloration, ghosting, and image retention. I know it's likely overblown to some extent, but I don't want to deal with the hassle of LG vs samsung screens or possibly having a bad display 6 months down the road.

Anyone heard anything about improvements to the current display (i.e., manufacturing process) or possibly using IGZO instead?
 
It would seem to me that trading an Ethernet port for an extra Thunderbolt port would make it more flexible, not less. But I see your overall point.

Nope because that means I need an adaptor to plug in a cable I use every day. Every other 'pro' laptop on the market has an ethernet port, for Apple to drop this isn't 'cutting-edge design', it's a step backwards - why remove something that is useful?
 
In regards to 15" rMBP:
All interior upgrades. Definitive CPU bump to Haswell, highly likely GPU bump to Nvidia 750m, likely introduction of 802.11ac capabilities and unlikely SSD bump.

As long as your Mac does what you want it to do, it doesn't matter!

That's true. Suppose I'll have to keep that In mind..
 
I think that Apple should drop the "Air" and "Pro" monikers, and combine the 2 lines. If the Air goes Retina, I don't see enough of a difference. Right now, the 13" rMBP doesn't have dedicated graphics. But hey, I'm only a mere human. What do I know?

And then relaunch the 'Pro' range with a matt screen option. The retina screen may be less reflective than the old glossy screen on the cMBP, but it's a LOT more reflective than the matt option. And while they are at it put the ethernet port and the kensington lock back. Yes I know you can buy an ethernet adaptor, but I don't want one, and I know the kensington lock can be easily cut/broken/picked, but my insurance company see's things differently.

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What about improvements to the display of the rMBP? I'm really interested in upgrading to one once Haswell comes out but I've read so many issues online about discoloration, ghosting, and image retention. I know it's likely overblown to some extent, but I don't want to deal with the hassle of LG vs samsung screens or possibly having a bad display 6 months down the road.

Anyone heard anything about improvements to the current display (i.e., manufacturing process) or possibly using IGZO instead?

And what about a matt option? It's supposed to be a 'Pro' laptop, that will be used in an office. Florescent lighting and glossy screens are a recipe for a massive headache.
 
cook said

we will be getting mac pro's this year. Complete new redesign. I hope this does NOT mean a tower with non-replaceable parts. I am waiting for a pro tower. waaaaiting.
 
I expect MacBooks to get mentioned only briefly in passing. They already did the whole "woo yay it's retina" thing last year. Expanding that to additional MacBook lines, or general spec bumps, is not all that worthy of a lot of time in the keynote.

They're going to dedicate a lot of time to iOS 7. That's really what the developers care about anyway. OS X 10.9 will also get some time. I'm hoping it's a fairly large chunk of time but I'm not going to bet on it.

I'm curious if they're going to announce any new product lines or services, like iRadio, or if that will get its own event. There's also the iWatch, supposedly, but I think that's more likely to be announced closer to autumn. There's also the perpetual rumors of an Apple TV set. I don't really expect to see that either.

The only way I could see iMacs being mentioned is if they're going retina, and that seems unlikely still. I could see Mac Pros getting a bit of time, or another website-only release. I'm hoping Mac Pros are worthy of a nice big keynote block, but we'll see I guess.
 
My guess is that the main event will be iOS 7, which is expected to undergo a pretty dramatic cosmetic change. This would directly link to cosmetic changes to Mac OS X 10.9, as the two share many cross-platform features.
The UI changes in iOS are inevitable. But I don't think the OSX coders will have enough time to iOS-ify that look. Perhaps OSX 10.10 will be the beginning of a new OSX makeover. So, yes... iOS 7 will be stealing the show.

That said, I expect nothing more from 10.9 other than Siri and Maps. If they don't "dumb" it down any more than that I'm OK with it.

we will be getting mac pro's this year. Complete new redesign. I hope this does NOT mean a tower with non-replaceable parts. I am waiting for a pro tower. waaaaiting.

It will be so thin it will fall over. :eek:
 
Personally I couldn't care much for a Retina Display on Macbook's at this time. I'd much rather have Macs configured with faster graphics instead or higher usable resolution without the high PPI..

I did get a chance to see the Retina Macbook Pro's, and while the quality of the display is great, It's just not practical :p, apart from better image quality your not getting anything you can use to your advantage.
 
You infer that from an article on a totally different product line?

yep....not hearing rumors about new mac pro orders from Apple.

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There are seven months left this year. If you waited this long for a MP, up to an additional seven months delay won't seem long at all :D.

True....

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Why would you think that? Maybe the Mac Pro won't get an update at WWDC, but what in the article makes you believe that it won't happen? The article is about MacBook Pros. :confused:

Just looking at the history of what has happened. Maybe I will be wrong.
 
Nope because that means I need an adaptor to plug in a cable I use every day. Every other 'pro' laptop on the market has an ethernet port, for Apple to drop this isn't 'cutting-edge design', it's a step backwards - why remove something that is useful?

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I would love Ethernet as well, although it simply can't coexist with slim laptops. (Photo Retina 13-inch top, Classic 15-inch bottom)
 
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My MBP 17" is from 2008 and counting. Still excellent for what I do, but I'll check out Haswell and the line up if it's really really great...

Mine is from 2007 and finally reached an OS upgrade it could not accept (10.8.3). With only 4GB and slow graphics Chrome actually freezes with too many windows open.

I'll be glad for a much faster Haswell-based pro, but not to keen on the SSD only option. Retina is nice (I am a photographer), but perhaps a matte screen would be better for Photoshop work.
 
Mine is from 2007 and finally reached an OS upgrade it could not accept (10.8.3). With only 4GB and slow graphics Chrome actually freezes with too many windows open.

I'll be glad for a much faster Haswell-based pro, but not to keen on the SSD only option. Retina is nice (I am a photographer), but perhaps a matte screen would be better for Photoshop work.

Did you try 6GB of memory? Big difference for me.

Officially not supported by Apple, but if you talk to OWC they'll help and let you know.
 
Common, I want updated graphics in the 13" rMBP

on my ages past non-retina MBP I have 2.8GHz quadcore i7 (I know its not current gen i7 but more than enough)
I have 16GB DDR3 RAM (I know its slightly faster in the newer, not by much)
I have 750GB HDD + 128GB SSD with read+write of circa 500MB/500MB, in a rMBR ill be sitting with 256 :(
And the sad, sick to my stomach Intel HD 3000 GPU

If they are not giving me a vast graphics update I don't want to dish out that huge amount of money for almost only a small bump GPU bump.... cause other than that its just the display and hypersleep thats interesting.... to much money for too little :(

Now the question is why the heck do I complain about my two year old laptop not being too far behind the current rMBP.... I think I need to rethink my priorities.
 
Apple will alienate a lot of their customers who like upgrading their computer throughout the life of the product, such as myself. Unless they want to lower the price of upgrading the SSD's of the retina models, they shouldn't discontinue the non-retina MBP.

While I, like you, am also such a customer and while I share your sentiment, we're not in the majority of Apple notebook customers, not even by a longshot. If Apple alienated us (like they have always done with the MacBook Air, iMacs and Mac minis, and like they're probably going to do with the Mac Pro), I'm sure it wouldn't hurt them much at all.

That wouldn't be such a great idea. While the rMBP has a fantastic screen resolution, that's all it offers. It removes important features for many users (matt screen option, physical ethernet, optical drive, the ability to upgrade storage and RAM) and is just less flexible in every day use. If I were buying a new laptop now and the only choices Apple had were the Air and the rMBP, I'd buy a Thinkpad! Sorry Apple, but lighter and thiner doesn't help me get my job done.

First off, Apple claims to have solved the problem of anti-glare vs. glossy problem with the retina MacBook Pro and the iMac. Also, they do make fairly decent screen covers for those that are not satisfied with it (which are clearly in the minority, hence Apple proceeding as they are right now). Second off, physical ethernet isn't a commonly used feature on laptops. I use the hell out of it on my non-retina MacBook Pro, but I know that I'm in the minority there. I love the hell out of having an optical drive, but those who actually use theirs are in the minority. Plus, Apple's drives are prone to failure and will inevitably crap out; at least with an external, the price of out-of-warranty replacement is halved. Provided one has the right tools and replacement drive type, upgrading the storage is just as doable as it was before. That said, I will grant that the screw driver isn't anywhere near as common and the drives are certainly proprietary. That said, very few people take advantage of upgrading their laptop. I appreciate the ability to do so on mine; that's why I don't own a retina. But again, we're in the MINORITY. Similarly, I completely agree about the complaint on RAM. Terrible; but it's the direction the entire laptop market is headed in the more Intel's ultrabook initiative becomes the norm and the more things like the retina MacBook Pro become the standard fare in terms of high-end non-gamer-laptop laptops. Again, like you, I don't like that this is the direction that they're going with the line; but a majority of customers, especially those that don't bat an eye at having to pre-max out the RAM to 16GB and the storage to 768GB at the time of purchase (and can afford to do so) (or, contrastingly, customers that either don't care or will never need that kind of power from their MacBook Pro), will not be bothered by this, hence Apple even suggesting that the retina MacBook Pro is "the next generation MacBook Pro" almost a full calendar year ago.
 
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