Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Apple Records Nearly Half of U.S. PC Desktop Retail Industry Revenue

Bonte said:
These are only retail numbers so system builders are not included, nevertheless very impressive. :apple:
Click to expand...

Once more Apple shows the way, instead of following stupid advice from pundits to sell barebones and low-cost crap as other inferior PC makers do. Now repeat after me:

MS IS DEAD. DELL IS DEAD.

Congratulations, Apple!
 
BRLawyer said:
Once more Apple shows the way, instead of following stupid advice from pundits to sell barebones and low-cost crap as other inferior PC makers do. Now repeat after me:

MS IS DEAD. DELL IS DEAD.

Congratulations, Apple!
Click to expand...

Apple would have to cater to ALL markets before either of those 2 end up 'dead'. As Apple caters to only a tiny share of the market with their product lineup, there is little to nil chance of that ever happening. And as Apple's product range grows to cater to all those different markets, they become exactly like Dell and Microsoft, so you don't win either way.
 
mrochester said:
Apple would have to cater to ALL markets before either of those 2 end up 'dead'. As Apple caters to only a tiny share of the market with their product lineup, there is little to nil chance of that ever happening. And as Apple's product range grows to cater to all those different markets, they become exactly like Dell and Microsoft, so you don't win either way.
Click to expand...

"Catering to markets" doesn't mean having the highest market share at low margins...Dell is in extremely bad shape compared to Apple's and could be bought up just with SJ's spare change in his pocket.
 
BRLawyer said:
"Catering to markets" doesn't mean having the highest market share at low margins...Dell is in extremely bad shape compared to Apple's and could be bought up just with SJ's spare change in his pocket.
Click to expand...

If MS and Dell are 'dead' it means EVERY Windows computer in the world would need to be replaced with an Apple computer. Do you really think Apple caters to every single user out there? I would be interested to see what you think are suitable Apple products to replace all of those Windows PCs.
 
mrochester said:
If MS and Dell are 'dead' it means EVERY Windows computer in the world would need to be replaced with an Apple computer. Do you really think Apple caters to every single user out there? I would be interested to see what you think are suitable Apple products to replace all of those Windows PCs.
Click to expand...

Dell is close to dead and I won't elaborate on that again...many other PC makers can replace it.

As for suitable Apple products to replace Windows crap, there is only one answer: Mac.
 
BRLawyer said:
Dell is close to dead and I won't elaborate on that again...many other PC makers can replace it.

As for suitable Apple products to replace Windows crap, there is only one answer: Mac.
Click to expand...

Which Mac? How much more do they cost? Are they even suitable for the job at hand? I really don't think you've thought this through terribly well...
 
BRLawyer said:
As for suitable Apple products to replace Windows crap, there is only one answer: Mac.
Click to expand...

Mac is exactly the same "crap" as PC (using your terminology) only more expensive. Not everyone in this World is willing to pay more for the same stuff only because Steve told them so. The hypes come and go and it is inevitable that once the Steve hype is gone (long live Steve though) Apple will once again fall into oblivion ... or not but they will become your regular tech company trying to deliver cheaper efficient solutions.
 
TennisandMusic said:
NPD only tracks retail sales, this is nowhere even CLOSE to total sales. Good "revenue" numbers for Apple, but considering who has a well known dedicated store (Apple) and who doesn't (everyone else for the most part), not really surprising. Their market share is still quite low.
Click to expand...

Vulpinemac said:
As a matter of fact, yes they do. Just as HP sells a fair portion of their hardware through retail outlets in Staples, Best Buy, even Walmart* and other outlets, Dell is there, too. At least where I live, they are.

But the most interesting thing is, despite the much lower prices of the other PC brands, only Apple seems to be making any kind of real profit. Why? Oh, I know, they have 'oh so much markup,' but if that were really so true, why are people paying it? Have they decided that Apple really is the better choice? These numbers mean that Apple is now selling 25% of all desktop computers in the US. Are people finally tired of the poor quality of the cheaper PCs?

Only time will tell.
Click to expand...

gunraidan said:
Wouldn't Apple be at a disadvantage counting retail sales too?

I mean the only major retail chains that sell Macs are Apple Stores and Best Buy.
Click to expand...

Seems like a lot of people did not read much of the article. First sentence of 2nd paragraph: "NPD measures in-store and online sales to compile the numbers."
 
I'm sure there are many others who feel as I do--I just took a chance when I needed a new computer and decided to try an unknown quantity at the time--a Mac. I'm very happy with the hardware and software so for me, the switch was a great idea--and I'm sure those numbers reflect a lot of other happy new Mac users.
 
bobr1952 said:
I'm sure there are many others who feel as I do--I just took a chance when I needed a new computer and decided to try an unknown quantity at the time--a Mac. I'm very happy with the hardware and software so for me, the switch was a great idea--and I'm sure those numbers reflect a lot of other happy new Mac users.
Click to expand...

Me to - 7 years ago and never looked back.

Macs provide the utility I need for a price that I believe is reflected in the value I receive. Beyond that, their revenue, profit margin or cash in the bank is irrelevant to me. Except for one little thing: it makes me more comfortable buying more knowing they are doing well to keep the platform sustainable.
 
Did anyone ever confirm that Mac does indeed own 25% desktop market share, because that statistic is crucial to this report.

Profit margins ftw, but the math here doesn't pan out.
 
I wonder what these numbers would be like if Apple offered a mini-tower....

RazHyena said:
YES PLEASE. :) I'll take an affordable i7 apple tower.
Click to expand...

I wonder what a mini-tower offering would do to these numbers. There are at least three possibilities...

  • Apple's revenue would be much higher, because many more Apples would be sold
  • No change - a few more Apples with somewhat fewer of the higher priced Imac line
  • Lower, because Apple no longer sells a monitor with the majority of its desktops.

On the third point, I wonder if when other companies sold a desktop plus a monitor, if the monitor price was included in the total...
 
lilo777 said:
It seems like most Apple fans think in sync :cool: Why would that be? A few posts back cmaier said:



Is it scary or what ;)
Click to expand...

Because it's true. Vast majority of peow have never used a mac. Even fewer have used a modern mac.

Further, most people reserve an opinion until they've actually tried something.
 
AidenShaw said:
On the third point, I wonder if when other companies sold a desktop plus a monitor, if the monitor price was included in the total...
Click to expand...

Almost certainly not. This would slightly skew the numbers against makers who don't sell many monitors.

On your overall point, it seems the market would be poised for someone to make an OS that runs on generic hardware, but provides the fabled user experience of OS X. Maybe chrome someday?
 
lilo777 said:
Mac is exactly the same "crap" as PC (using your terminology) only more expensive. Not everyone in this World is willing to pay more for the same stuff only because Steve told them so.
...
Click to expand...

Your trolling script seems to be based on Apple from the late 1900s--check Windows Update for a new version :p (If it doesn't crash and fry your brand-new Dell's OS, as my friend just experienced--and she can't even back up her week's worth of stuff because the optical drive died after a few days :eek: )

* Currently, the initial purchase price of many Macs is much less than a PC with the "same stuff." (Actually, certain current Macs cost the same as a Dell that has almost nothing! A well-loaded 27" iMac costs the same as a Dell display alone. The Dell display does have 160 additional pixels though :p )

* And on top of Apple's already-competitive pricing, you can find great deals (such as Amazon, educational discounts, and like-new refurbs which have full warranties) to pay even less.

* After that initial purchase, your support, troubleshooting and anti-virus costs (in both money AND time) are lower year after year.

* And Macs have a longer usable life, so you don't have to buy as many computers over time.

* And then when you do want a new computer, the Mac holds its resale value far better than a PC, helping to fund your next Mac.

In the end, being a Mac user tends to cost a whole LOT less. And you still get the benefits of Mac OS X! Plus it runs your old Windows stuff too if you wish. It's win-win.

When the time comes to buy a new PC, why spend hundreds MORE to get a Dell? Just get the MacBook :)

P.S. Windows is not dead. Look how long Amiga OS clung to life... it's still not quite dead! And Amiga had nothing like the intertia of Microsoft's former dominance. Windows is here to stay. Its future is very dim, but very long.
 
nagromme said:
Your trolling script seems to be based on Apple from the late 1900s--check Windows Update for a new version :p (If it doesn't crash and fry your brand-new Dell's OS, as my friend just experienced--and she can't even back up her week's worth of stuff because the optical drive died after a few days :eek: )

* Currently, the initial purchase price of many Macs is much less than a PC with the "same stuff." (Actually, certain current Macs cost the same as a Dell that has almost nothing! A well-loaded 27" iMac costs the same as a Dell display alone. The Dell display does have 160 additional pixels though :p )

* And on top of Apple's already-competitive pricing, you can find great deals (such as Amazon, educational discounts, and like-new refurbs which have full warranties) to pay even less.

* After that initial purchase, your support, troubleshooting and anti-virus costs (in both money AND time) are lower year after year.

* And Macs have a longer usable life, so you don't have to buy as many computers over time.

* And then when you do want a new computer, the Mac holds its resale value far better than a PC, helping to fund your next Mac.

In the end, being a Mac user tends to cost a whole LOT less. And you still get the benefits of Mac OS X! Plus it runs your old Windows stuff too if you wish. It's win-win.

When the time comes to buy a new PC, why spend hundreds MORE to get a Dell? Just get the MacBook :)

P.S. Windows is not dead. Look how long Amiga OS clung to life... it's still not quite dead! And Amiga had nothing like the intertia of Microsoft's former dominance. Windows is here to stay. Its future is very dim, but very long.
Click to expand...

These are part of the secondary reasons why I feel I receive a value from Macs worth the price I pay. The primary reason for me is my user experience.
 
as we read this mornings SEATTLE TIMES that MS is laying off more-this is welcome news-as MS is betting the farm on some mythical W7 "upgrade cycle
in the sky" over the next year that will pull them out of the mud
Most people realize they are just fine with XP and VISTA-and are not going to be fooled so easily again
But with the economy bad and -wake up-getting worse-people and businesses
will NOT want to fork out for -well, essentially Windows XP v.3


There WILL BE NO W7 upgrade cycle of any note-except for the few rabid-gotta have the latest types-Windows as an OS has be come antiquated and irellevant

They are counting thier chickens before they hatch
APPLE seems to have a sea anchor and is doing ok
 
nagromme said:
* Currently, the initial purchase price of many Macs is much less than a PC with the "same stuff." (Actually, certain current Macs cost the same as a Dell that has almost nothing! A well-loaded 27" iMac costs the same as a Dell display alone. The Dell display does have 160 additional pixels though :p )
Click to expand...
Apple's most competitive products are the 13" notebooks. Going up or down is a loss in what you get.

nagromme said:
* And on top of Apple's already-competitive pricing, you can find great deals (such as Amazon, educational discounts, and like-new refurbs which have full warranties) to pay even less.
Click to expand...
You have to hunt or wait for these deals to compete with other manufacturers unless a 13" notebook is what you want.

nagromme said:
* After that initial purchase, your support, troubleshooting and anti-virus costs (in both money AND time) are lower year after year.
Click to expand...
It's debatable given the solutions available and the user's knowledge.

nagromme said:
* And Macs have a longer usable life, so you don't have to buy as many computers over time.
Click to expand...
I've bought the equivalent to two PCs since I've owned my MacBook. Not that there was anything wrong with my Windows software or hardware but I did want something faster. My old Athlon XP system is still puttering around after 5 years and I've had to recycle 5 working Pentium 4 Northwood towers. Besides a heavy coat of dust inside these 6 year old towers and one older Willamette machine they all worked just fine. I even salvaged a few PCI FireWire 400 cards and a Sound Blaster PCI with 5.25" front panel.

nagromme said:
* And then when you do want a new computer, the Mac holds its resale value far better than a PC, helping to fund your next Mac.
Click to expand...
Sadly based on the perceived value and entirely up to Apple's whim not market prices for said hardware.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back