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Apple References Unreleased 2020 16-Inch MacBook Pro in Boot Camp Update

GeoStructural said:
It could be, but they are using Gen 9 Intel chips, if they were to update I presume bringing the latest chips would be the most sound
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simonmet said:
Almost certainly not. Apple uses its year designations sparingly. They haven’t indicated a new graphics option warrants a new year moniker for the 16” anywhere else or ever before for other Macs as far as I’m aware!
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Sure, but there are no hard rules to when Apple considers a model to be new.

They've certainly done a minor spec-bumps within an Intel chip generation and called it a new model, as a few examples:
  • Mid 2018 and Mid 2019 MBPs both used 8th Gen Intel chips.
  • Mid 2013 and Early 2014 MBAs both used 4th Gen Intel chips.
  • Early 2015 and Mid 2017 MBAs both used 5th Gen Intel chips.
So just because they're still using the same gen Intel chips as the prior model does not mean this is not a new model.
 
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I think it's most likely, as the article suggests, that this is simply a mistake. With Arm machines going to be announced in 2 or 3 weeks, unlikely that they squeeze a new 16" intel machine out in the narrow time that's left in the year.
 
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hoorayforhollywood said:
This could be the last Intel release but more likely a mistake?
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...about equally likely, I'd say.

"2020" could be a straight mistake or a reference to the new GPU option launched this year (if anybody has got one of those, does 'About' say '2019' or '2020'?)

OTOH they said at WWDC that there were more Intel Macs in the pipeline - and there's a good argument for the first ASi Macs being the lower-end laptops while the "Pro" models wait for the rumoured 2nd gen chips with better GPUs.

Neither outcome would shake the foundations of reality.
 
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One month ago I purchased a 16" MBP from Costco at a decent price.

When it was delivered I set it up and everything was good. For about three hours. After that the backlight failed and there was nothing I could do to turn it back on. Shining a bright flashlight on the screen revealed the computer was running fine with the usual desktop in place, being able to open apps etc. So frustrating. Next day I wiped the disk and returned it to Costco for a refund, without issue.

I'd still like a 16" MBP. I might give it another whirl if an updated model comes out.
 
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Seeing as the 16" MBP is effectively still using a pumped up Skylake chip, this is welcome news.
I wonder what chip they could be using? Tiger Lake is limited to 4 cores, Alder Lake is still some way from being released. Maybe a very early Tiger Lake H chip?

Maybe then 802.11ax will be included, as Apple could've included it easily with the 13" MBP but obviously didn't want the more expensive 16" looking worse in that respect.

Still, I'm very excited to see what a MBP with Apple's A-series chip is capable of.
 
oneMadRssn said:
Sure, but there are no hard rules to when Apple considers a model to be new.

They've certainly done a minor spec-bumps within an Intel chip generation and called it a new model, as a few examples:
  • Mid 2018 and Mid 2019 MBPs both used 8th Gen Intel chips.
  • Mid 2013 and Early 2014 MBAs both used 4th Gen Intel chips.
  • Early 2015 and Mid 2017 MBAs both used 5th Gen Intel chips.
So just because they're still using the same gen Intel chips as the prior model does not mean this is not a new model.
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Yeah but what else was updated in those models? Not just a graphics card option? Also, were they literally the same CPUs being used?

I strongly suspect a new (and final) Intel version to be pushed out with little to no fanfare in the coming weeks.
 
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ader42 said:
Somehow I think this refers to the update we already had in 2020.

”Apple did release a new high-end graphics option for the 16-inch MacBook Pro in June”.
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That wasn't a model update... just a graphics option. Rumours have pointed to an updated Intel 16 inch before it switches to arm next year / full redesign
 
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ader42 said:
Somehow I think this refers to the update we already had in 2020.

”Apple did release a new high-end graphics option for the 16-inch MacBook Pro in June”.
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It's exactly what it is.

No one expects Apple to release new Intel Macs before the end of this year.
simonmet said:
Almost certainly not. Apple uses its year designations sparingly. They haven’t indicated a new graphics option warrants a new year moniker for the 16” anywhere else, or for any other Mac either as far as I’m aware!
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If it doesn't reference that, then it means an updated 16" MacBook Pro with Intel is coming in the next 2 months amidst the highly anticipated first ARM Macs. Which is seems highly unlikely.
 
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The "10th gen" mobile chips for the MBP 16's CPU wattage range are still sadly 14nm++++++++ chips and not tiger lake. Which doesn't have an available variant yet with more than 4 cores. I'd rather have 8 cores at 14nm, then 4 cores at 10nm for the MBP 16's size.

The AMD 5XXX mobile chips are still considered state of the art at 7nm for their wattage consumption....
 
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Deinocheirus said:
It's exactly what it is.

No one expects Apple to release new Intel Macs before the end of this year.


If it doesn't reference that, then it means an updated 16" MacBook Pro with Intel is coming in the next 2 months amidst the highly anticipated first ARM Macs. Which is seems highly unlikely.
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Incorrect. There have been rumours for a while for an updated 16 inch between oct-nov (similar time when it was updated last year) but just with an intel 10th gen upgrade, gpu bump, maybe a camera update etc minor stuff.
It will come at the same time as the arm mac/s (1 or 2 lower end macbooks)
 
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Spec-bump coming before the November event maybe?

Would make sense given how long the 16" has been out for now and the fact the ARM rumours seem to suggest its likely the 13" laptops will be out first.
 
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Deinocheirus said:
If it doesn't reference that, then it means an updated 16" MacBook Pro with Intel is coming in the next 2 months amidst the highly anticipated first ARM Macs. Which is seems highly unlikely.
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Assuming the first ARM Macs are the MBA and/or MacBook, I don’t think Apple will consider the 16” MBP to be a competing product at all, even if the new Macs perform very well (which they should).

The market for the 16” is heavily pros who require professional software suites that are typically slower to migrate to a new architecture, as well as legacy software; and yes... Windows.
 
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Kylo83 said:
It just means 2020 updates graphics 5600m not a new MacBook lol come on guys
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"Apple did release a new high-end graphics option for the 16-inch MacBook Pro in June, but it still refers to all configurations of the notebook as 2019 models on its website." Apple has a standardized way of referring to products, for support purposes. Either the person who wrote the patch notes forgot how that naming system works or they accidentally revealed a new model we don't know of.
 
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theluggage said:
...about equally likely, I'd say.

"2020" could be a straight mistake or a reference to the new GPU option launched this year (if anybody has got one of those, does 'About' say '2019' or '2020'?)

OTOH they said at WWDC that there were more Intel Macs in the pipeline - and there's a good argument for the first ASi Macs being the lower-end laptops while the "Pro" models wait for the rumoured 2nd gen chips with better GPUs.

Neither outcome would shake the foundations of reality.
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I just bought the 16” MBP with the 5600M the about section designates the Mac as a 2019! I was pretty surprised at this
 
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It would be unwise to not release Intel MacBook Pros this year and at least next year too. There is a lot of people, professionals and not, who use 3rd party applications that won't be ready for release in time for the ARM models.
 
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