I just bought the pro with the 5600M oct 21st and it’s listed under the about section as a 2019 model! It’s news to me as I thought the same thing!
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Apple References Unreleased 2020 16-Inch MacBook Pro in Boot Camp Update
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I assume the next 16" MBP will be the last Intel version. I'm literally waiting to buy some of these for work. ARM is interesting, but v1 is something I want to avoid. I also don't want to buy the existing 16" because it's too much money for not the latest version.
Maybe, but I think the point was that between 2017 and 2020 there has been little to no improvement.
I guess if A chip is really that powerful under active cooling as speculated, it would run bootcamp no matter what
My guess is that this refers to the 5600M 16" models released in the middle of this year. We'll see though.
Given that Intel has gone completely brain dead, I can't imagine *any* Intel Mac update, at this point, being worth it. I'm hoping Apple will surprise with an ARM 16" MBP next month (in addition to the Intel bump).
If it's intel and still on Catalina I'm buying it. Not interested in being a guinea pig for a new architecture AND major OS revision. There's going to be software compatibility headaches and growing pains for months, if not years.
Good point. We need to find someone with such a Mac to take a look at “About this Mac” to see if it says 2020.
I’m kinda in the same camp, but leery of a v1.0 ARM Mac. Yes, it’s putting together Macs they already do with A-series chips they already have lots of experience with, but there’s always a bit of a shakedown cruise with any v1.0 product. Also debating all the benefits of the A-series on one side with BootCamp on the other.
But will it have a cooling system that works?
Windows 10 is fully capable of running on ARM, so I see no reason why there couldn't be a Boot Camp for ARM based Macs. Not to mention that there's several Linux distros that can run on ARM, as well - no shortage of OSs to want to dual boot an Apple Silicon Mac with.
Not Apple ARM. Windows will need to have a version that works with it. Windows is releasing new ARM PCs, but there are still quite a few app compatibilities right now.
Right. The 2019 16-inch MBP came out in November and the WWDC announcement in June. I bet the configs were locked for the 2020 16-inch well before.
I don’t think it will be killed. Microsoft has ARM-based Windows PCs. They just need to make sure it works with Apple’s version of the chip, kind of like AMD and Intel.
I think that people are over optimistic about ARM MacBook Pro and replacing the whole Mac line it is going to be years before they could try to replace a Xeon processor in a Mac Pro. And once they do Bootcamp will end and people will get a Xbox X or PS5 for gaming and PC will be virtual which will be slower than bootcamp for business apps under virtual. The ARM is not some magic processor, it is going to help Apple force development into a IOS world where there are more apps and developers under iOS.
There was a previous release for specific drivers for the 5600m update, with AMD referring to that as the 2020 model. See: https://www.amd.com/en/support/kb/release-notes/apple-boot-camp
Am I the only person that remembers that they said in the keynote that some Intel Macs were still in the pipeline for this year? https://www.cnet.com/news/apple-still-plans-to-support-intel-based-macs-for-years-to-come/