They need to ditch the 16:9 display for 16:10 or 3:2 like Microsoft is using.
I wish Microsoft would make a 15" or larger Surface laptop with thunderbolt.
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They need to ditch the 16:9 display for 16:10 or 3:2 like Microsoft is using.
I wish Microsoft would make a 15" or larger Surface laptop with thunderbolt.
It especially makes sense when only a small number of the 18M were impacted, as in, not a design flaw.
You are telling me I'm drinking Kool-Aid and I'm telling you Apple's actions show there is no major problem, particularly on the no major redesign for new Macbooks. Sorry...it's just not as bad as this forum believes.
They only apologized to those impacted. They didn't say "we're sorry for making a defective keyboard."
Again, your anger has destroyed your ability to think rationally. The facts simply show there was no need to go crazy and they didn't. Unless you have failure rates, you don't know anything I don't. I just see the whole situation differently than you and I think Apple's actions prove I'm right. Think what you want though.
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Who cares? You think it's impossible to justify, but you haven't priced similar items? Go price some RED accessories.
And it doesn't matter. The price for the monitor is insanely good. If they charged $6K and threw in the stand, it'd be an awesome value too.
Most pros don't need the stand, so they are charging dearly if you want it, but you probably don't. It was more important to get the price of the monitor this good.
Apple knows exactly how to price products for the respective markets.
Name a company better at sales and profit execution.
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I've had my late 2014 MBPr 15" 16GB 1TB SSD for 4.5 years now. Has been a nice little beast for Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, Xcode+other IDEs, Machine Learning/DS platforms, Adobe CC. etc. Absolute work-horse. Got a new display replaced under warranty and new battery/top-case and there's hardly any difference been this MBP and the new MBPs minus max RAM, GPU, TouchBar (don't want) and small cosmetic updates (don't care).
There is absolutely no reason for me to update until a redesign or major upgrade comes along. I'm hoping a new MBP comes before 2020 because it would be nice to have say 64GB RAM + screaming GPU.
There is absolutely no reason for me to update until a redesign or major upgrade comes along. I'm hoping a new MBP comes before 2020 because it would be nice to have say 64GB RAM + screaming GPU.
Apple must, absolutely must, replace their laptop keyboard. The cost to their reputation has been too high as a result of this horrible design, as well as thermal and other issues (stupid large trackpad, Touch Bar nonsense, no user upgradability). And based on Louis Rossman's videos, I hope they take a hard look at their board design too. I'd really like to replace my spontaneously shutdown prone 2012 MBP, but I won't until they get it right.
Louis Rossman's a crazy person though. Like he has some good video's on fixing things, but yeah... if it isn't a thinkpad, he thinks it's problematic in some way.
Just got my 2019 mbp 15” 2 days ago .Should I return and wait October for 16”?
This is really interesting. I can see tenth or ninth gen intel refreshes for macbook pro 13” and macbook air, along with a very cool, very pro-priced 16-inch form factor introduction, along with the macbook maybe even getting an ARM cpu
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I would not want to jump on a new design immediately. I would jump on something immediately only if it's just a processor refresh and that is unlikely for the 15" at this point.
The moderator asked me to move this over here (I had started a new thread without realizing that there was a discussion thread for the original rumor post)...
Macs have three model numbers - a number in the format of A plus four digits (which changes the least), plus a number that begins with an M and ends with LL/A and an EMC number. I did a little looking at A number patterns on EveryMac.com today after the new numbers were revealed...
A new "A number", like the 7 (!!!) just uncovered, is generally a significant model change (in the case of a Mac - cellular chips complicate the picture tremendously for things that contain them). That's not always the case - the 2019 iMac processor bump oddly doesn't share an A number with the 2017 of the same screen size. There was also an A number change in the Touch Bar MBPs between the 2017 and 2018 models - but that one corresponds to the addition of the T2.
The new numbers are A2141, A2147, A2158, A2159, A2179, A2182, and A2251. Right now, there are only two Macs with A numbers over A2000 - the new iMacs are A2115 (27") and A2116 (21.5"). There are also a bunch of iPhones and iPads plus the new iPod Touch with numbers over A2000.
How sure are we that "portable personal computer" is a description Apple would only use for a Mac? There actually aren't enough numbers here to be September's iPhones (regional variations of iPhones use up a huge number of A numbers - the 2018 models alone use 12 numbers (four regions and three models in each region). Some of them could be iPads, though (a single iPad uses up four A numbers - the WiFi model, plus three different cellular variations).
As of right now, here are the model numbers of all current portable Macs:
A1466= non-Retina MBA (everything back to 2012 shares an A number, although they have different M and EMC numbers )
A1932= Retina MBA (no variations)
A1534= MacBook (all of the current models - any MacBook with a different A number is one of the old polycarbonate ones from 2010 or earlier)
A1708= 13" non touch bar MBP (back to 2016 - doesn't share an A number with 2015 and prior models)
A1989= 13" Touch Bar MBP (2018 and 2019 models)
A1990= 15" Touch Bar MBP (2018 and 2019 models)
The 2016 and 2017 13" and 15" Touch Bar MBPs have a different A number from the 2018 and 2019 models (A1706 is 13", A1707 is 15"), so a new A number isn't always an obvious redesign - this is probably the T2.
The last two generations of MacBook Pros follow a pattern that the 15" is one number higher than the 13", but this wasn't reliably true prior to 2015. There is a pair in the new list that could be redesigned 13" and 15" (14" and 16"?) models.
Given the information I've found (thanks EveryMac...), I think there are three possibilities.
1.) Seven Macs - this seems unlikely! One of them is the redesigned 12" MacBook and two are MBP redesigns, but what are the rest of them? Even assuming that the redesigns of the 13" and 15" each come in two variations significant enough to have separate numbers (OLED and LCD? Neither CPU nor GPU variants have had different numbers - even the discrete and integrated graphics 15" models shared an A number), there are still two unexplained Macs. A larger MacBook might use up one of the two, but there have been NO rumors at all relating to the last model. It's not an MBA redesign, because the Retina model is only a few months old.
2.)An iPad using up four numbers, plus three Macs. This fits - they would probably be the 12" MacBook and two MBPs.
3.) A Mac using up four numbers, plus three more Macs. This would require something, presumably the 12" MacBook, to sprout a cellular modem (often requested - it would generate a WiFi only version plus 3 regional cell variants), plus the two MBPs, plus one more Mac. The two logical possibilities for the "extra" Mac are either a larger (14"? 15"?) MacBook (which wouldn't have a cellular variant - the extra Mac only has one number - or the 14" does, but the 12" doesn't) OR an ultra-high end variant on the 16" MBP. An OLED model could have its own A number...
Macs have three model numbers - a number in the format of A plus four digits (which changes the least), plus a number that begins with an M and ends with LL/A and an EMC number. I did a little looking at A number patterns on EveryMac.com today after the new numbers were revealed...
A new "A number", like the 7 (!!!) just uncovered, is generally a significant model change (in the case of a Mac - cellular chips complicate the picture tremendously for things that contain them). That's not always the case - the 2019 iMac processor bump oddly doesn't share an A number with the 2017 of the same screen size. There was also an A number change in the Touch Bar MBPs between the 2017 and 2018 models - but that one corresponds to the addition of the T2.
The new numbers are A2141, A2147, A2158, A2159, A2179, A2182, and A2251. Right now, there are only two Macs with A numbers over A2000 - the new iMacs are A2115 (27") and A2116 (21.5"). There are also a bunch of iPhones and iPads plus the new iPod Touch with numbers over A2000.
How sure are we that "portable personal computer" is a description Apple would only use for a Mac? There actually aren't enough numbers here to be September's iPhones (regional variations of iPhones use up a huge number of A numbers - the 2018 models alone use 12 numbers (four regions and three models in each region). Some of them could be iPads, though (a single iPad uses up four A numbers - the WiFi model, plus three different cellular variations).
As of right now, here are the model numbers of all current portable Macs:
A1466= non-Retina MBA (everything back to 2012 shares an A number, although they have different M and EMC numbers )
A1932= Retina MBA (no variations)
A1534= MacBook (all of the current models - any MacBook with a different A number is one of the old polycarbonate ones from 2010 or earlier)
A1708= 13" non touch bar MBP (back to 2016 - doesn't share an A number with 2015 and prior models)
A1989= 13" Touch Bar MBP (2018 and 2019 models)
A1990= 15" Touch Bar MBP (2018 and 2019 models)
The 2016 and 2017 13" and 15" Touch Bar MBPs have a different A number from the 2018 and 2019 models (A1706 is 13", A1707 is 15"), so a new A number isn't always an obvious redesign - this is probably the T2.
The last two generations of MacBook Pros follow a pattern that the 15" is one number higher than the 13", but this wasn't reliably true prior to 2015. There is a pair in the new list that could be redesigned 13" and 15" (14" and 16"?) models.
Given the information I've found (thanks EveryMac...), I think there are three possibilities.
1.) Seven Macs - this seems unlikely! One of them is the redesigned 12" MacBook and two are MBP redesigns, but what are the rest of them? Even assuming that the redesigns of the 13" and 15" each come in two variations significant enough to have separate numbers (OLED and LCD? Neither CPU nor GPU variants have had different numbers - even the discrete and integrated graphics 15" models shared an A number), there are still two unexplained Macs. A larger MacBook might use up one of the two, but there have been NO rumors at all relating to the last model. It's not an MBA redesign, because the Retina model is only a few months old.
2.)An iPad using up four numbers, plus three Macs. This fits - they would probably be the 12" MacBook and two MBPs.
3.) A Mac using up four numbers, plus three more Macs. This would require something, presumably the 12" MacBook, to sprout a cellular modem (often requested - it would generate a WiFi only version plus 3 regional cell variants), plus the two MBPs, plus one more Mac. The two logical possibilities for the "extra" Mac are either a larger (14"? 15"?) MacBook (which wouldn't have a cellular variant - the extra Mac only has one number - or the 14" does, but the 12" doesn't) OR an ultra-high end variant on the 16" MBP. An OLED model could have its own A number...
Maybe... 96W would match a "maximum legal battery" awfully well. You can get a battery up to 99 Wh on an airplane, and 96W would just about charge that battery in an hour.
Personally, I want to see a 16" MacBook Pro that has an accessory for an external MPX module AND an afterburner card via thunderbolt 3. An apple designed and branded external GPU enclosure designed for the new screen and 16" MacBook Pro would be awesome.
So I've been wondering, everyone keeps talking about a 16 inch Macbook pro but nobody seems to recall that the screen was predicted to be 16-16.5 inches - what if instead it is something closer to an XPS 13, it debuted as "the 13 inch laptop that fits in an 11 inch frame" sporting a 13.3 inch screen in the same frame size as an 11.6 inch Macbook air.
A "17 inch" (screen size) macbook [model A2251] in the frame of a 16(possibly 16.5) inch laptop targetting actual pros would allow them to introduce an infinity edge screen into the macbook lineup (not to mention releasing before the expected XPS refresh which if the leaked roadmap is correct includes the return of the XPS 17 [7700 "Stradale"])
Naysayers will say there won't be enough people buying a 17 inch macbook but youre also already saying no one will buy the 5000$ display or 999$ stand - lets be honest apple doesn't care about the naysayers. They're releasing products for pros and filling the gaps they've had in their product lineups for years, whether we like it or not.
Thank you for educating everyone on what a gambler's fallacy looks like.
"Apple releases new model of Mac Pro in December of 2017" was not a headline.
Time is an illusion
By 2016, reviewers started to agree that the Mac Pro was now lacking in functionality and power, it having not been updated since 2013, and it was past time for Apple to update it. Apple later revealed in 2017 that the thermal core design had limited the ability to upgrade the Mac Pro's GPUs and that a new design was under development, to be released sometime after 2017.
New products will likely be released when they're ready to be released.
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So I've been wondering, everyone keeps talking about a 16 inch Macbook pro but nobody seems to recall that the screen was predicted to be 16-16.5 inches - what if instead it is something closer to an XPS 13, it debuted as "the 13 inch laptop that fits in an 11 inch frame" sporting a 13.3 inch screen in the same frame size as an 11.6 inch Macbook air.
A "17 inch" (screen size) macbook [model A2251] in the frame of a 16(possibly 16.5) inch laptop targetting actual pros would allow them to introduce an infinity edge screen into the macbook lineup (not to mention releasing before the expected XPS refresh which if the leaked roadmap is correct includes the return of the XPS 17 [7700 "Stradale"])
Naysayers will say there won't be enough people buying a 17 inch macbook but youre also already saying no one will buy the 5000$ display or 999$ stand - lets be honest apple doesn't care about the naysayers. They're releasing products for pros and filling the gaps they've had in their product lineups for years, whether we like it or not.
Thank you for educating everyone on what a gambler's fallacy looks like.
"Apple releases new model of Mac Pro in December of 2017" was not a headline.
Time is an illusion
By 2016, reviewers started to agree that the Mac Pro was now lacking in functionality and power, it having not been updated since 2013, and it was past time for Apple to update it. Apple later revealed in 2017 that the thermal core design had limited the ability to upgrade the Mac Pro's GPUs and that a new design was under development, to be released sometime after 2017.
New products will likely be released when they're ready to be released.
MacBook Pro series has a pattern of releasing new models after original MacBook Pro. MacBook Pro is the only Mac computer releasing every year like iPhone.
- Apple release at least one minor or major update for MacBook Pro series every year. There might be two updates.
- Every 4 years, they release a whole new MacBook Pro. 2016(Touch bar MBP), 2012(Retina MBP), 2008(unibody MBP)
You will find this info from Google.
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I know two people who own these. One only watches movies on her's, so hardly uses the keyboard, and hasn't had any problems. The other uses his for his job, and has had to have the keyboard replaced 3 times. THREE ***** TIMES!!! So he now uses an external keyboard to save himself the trouble. And on top of that, he's had to get the screen replaced once as well. That ain't no echo chamber, mate. The only "echo" is the number of times he's had to bounce back to Apple for repairs. My main take on it, is you'd be a moron to buy one of these second hand once the warrantee has expired. Talking of which, his just has, so he is now selling it. Good luck to the sucker who buys it.
Apple is inconsistent with this: Usually it means form factor, i.e. a case change means a new A number. However, the 2017 iMacs substituted USB-C (TB3) in place of DisplayPort (TB2) but the A number didn't. And conversely, the 2018 MacBook Pros are externally indistinguishable from 2017's except for a new A number.
The international company that I work for having a failure of 14% for butterfly keyboard models says otherwise. There's a reason we have halted all Mac purchases and no longer support them on our networks. Head count of 7k+.
Mobile Xeons, ECC ram, a Vega 5. Yes. 5. It's the slowest workstation GPU ever put in a laptop.
New thinner touchscreen keyboard.
Stainless steel and glass chassis.
A bargain at just $9999.
U mad bro?
ITS NOT FOR YOU! STOP ACTING SO DAMN ENTITLED YOU LITTLE WHINER! THIS IS FOR THE REAL PROS!
I was thinking about that, but I'm pretty sure the high-spec'd i9/GPU 15" options can be pushed to a point where they'll drain even while connected to power. It might just be over provisioning to prevent such occurrences (and besides, USB tops out at 100W so you might as well make more available.)
You no longer support Macs on your network? Seems like throwing babies out with the bathwater.