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…it is certainly possible the company could be planning a privacy-focused marketing campaign along the lines of its "what happens on your iPhone, stays on your iPhone" billboard at CES 2019 in Las Vegas.

I like their original billboard better.

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If privacy is so important why did they disclose the domain? Shouldn't it be ********isimportant.com ?

Whose privacy is being violated?

It's fairly easy to avoid Google services if you choose, plenty of alternatives.

Start with avoiding google search. 1) Try www.duckduckgo.com 2) If you still just have to use Google search, use www.startpage.com which anonymizes google searches.

It's not easy to avoid Google services. It's easy to avoid using Google for your searches but Google will probably still have access to your data at some level.

This isn't just blocking Google, but there was an interesting article on Gizmodo about trying to not use services from the five largest tech companies (including Apple), all of which "track" users: https://gizmodo.com/i-cut-the-big-five-tech-giants-from-my-life-it-was-hel-1831304194
 
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So Apple should just remove Facebook, the 5th most popular app on the App Store? Are they also removing Messenger, the 4th most popular app? Oh and what about Instagram, the 2nd most popular app, after all they are owned by Facebook. You have to be able to weigh the pros and cons to a decision.
If they truly care about privacy and their marketing seems to be, then yes they should remove the App's that are security threats. They didn't care much to remove Tumblr from their App Store.
 
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Whose privacy is being violated?



It's not easy to avoid Google services. It's easy to avoid using Google for your searches but Google will probably still have access to your data at some level.

This isn't just blocking Google, but there was an interesting article on Gizmodo about trying to not use services from the five largest tech companies (including Apple), all of which "track" users: https://gizmodo.com/i-cut-the-big-five-tech-giants-from-my-life-it-was-hel-1831304194


Self explanatory:

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If they truly care about privacy and their marketing seems to be, then yes they should remove the App's that are security threats. They didn't care much to remove Tumblr from their App Store.
I am sure the people that use Facebook every single day on their phone would love to have it removed. Oh and Instagram too.

Again, you have to be able to weigh the pros and cons.

Pro: Makes a small number of people happy because "SECURITY!"

Con: The VAST majority of people get mad because the app(s) they have used for years have been removed.

Again, if you don't want Facebook on your phone... Then don't download it...


Should we also get rid of Amazon and all Google apps?
 
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They should try capitalize on it for sure. It definitely has value. It's one of the only things they have left for me personally at this current point in time. But it's just a (very unlikely) policy change away from not being.

The capitalization matters for sure. It reminds me of back around 2000 when someone started the web site ExpertsExchange.com.
Of course if you don't capitalize it or change the capitalization of the S and E it ended up being ExpertSexchange.com. They ended up changing the name and letting the domain name go.
 
Apple Net Privacy Revenue:

$9,000,000,000.00 revenue received selling iPhone customers to Google
$9.99 cost to register PrivacyIsImportant.com
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$8,999,999,990.01 net revenue

How about spending some of the share buy-back $100 billions to acquire DDG, and then turn it into a true, privacy oriented search option equal to the big G??? Ooops, wont make the fund managers happy and stock price may go down.
 
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Really? If privacy is important to Apple, why not implement a per-app Internet access permission, so that you can deny Internet access for apps you don't want to send your data away? And yes, this setting should be applicable to Apple apps, like Photos to begin with.

The reason they shout loudly about privacy but really don't provide adequate privacy protection is very easy: Big data. You let the users close their data door, and you fail in the big data business. And by trying to convince users that "their data won't be sent to any server no matter if it's in a device connected 24/7 to the Internet", they are pretending to be our defenders, while what they want is to get income from big data services.

Man, it's not even possible to disable face recognition in Photos, which makes my iPhone consume lots of power (and gets quite hot) every time you delete photos.
 
I am sure the people that use Facebook every single day on their phone would love to have it removed. Oh and Instagram too.

Again, you have to be able to weigh the pros and cons.

Pro: Makes a small number of people happy because "SECURITY!"

Con: The VAST majority of people get mad because the app(s) they have used for years have been removed.

Again, if you don't want Facebook on your phone... Then don't download it...


Should we also get rid of Amazon and all Google apps?
Of course they wouldn't and this is an argument I used before agains't Apple practices. But it still stands, if they care about privacy as their marketing 101 says, then remove the threats from your App Store, ah and don't sign another 11B$ contract to have Google as the default search engine in Safari for iOS. After-all it's all marketing to sell, and no Apple doesn't care about your privacy. They care about your money instead.
 
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Apple Net Privacy Revenue:

$9,000,000,000.00 revenue received selling iPhone customers to Google
$9.99 cost to register PrivacyIsImportant.com
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$8,999,999,990.01 net revenue

How about spending some of the share buy-back $100 billions to acquire DDG, and then turn it into a true, privacy oriented search option equal to the big G??? Ooops, wont make the fund managers happy and stock price may go down.

Well, since they are gonna orient more on the services in the future, I can see this being a possibility.
 
Really? If privacy is important to Apple, why not implement a per-app Internet access permission, so that you can deny Internet access for apps you don't want to send your data away? And yes, this setting should be applicable to Apple apps, like Photos to begin with.

The reason they shout loudly about privacy but really don't provide adequate privacy protection is very easy: Big data. You let the users close their data door, and you fail in the big data business. And by trying to convince users that "their data won't be sent to any server no matter if it's in a device connected 24/7 to the Internet", they are pretending to be our defenders, while what they want is to get income from big data services.

Man, it's not even possible to disable face recognition in Photos, which makes my iPhone consume lots of power (and gets quite hot) every time you delete photos.
Yep. It's all marketing. Did you notice on how Apple's been loosing sales lately? This is where they grab now "privacy" to fill the mind of the user. If the phones can't sell by their features and overpriced prices, then they must use "privacy" to make it sell. In the end of the day they couldn't care less, if they did they wouldn't sign contracts with supposed "privacy threatening companies" when the return is money. That's hypocrisy.
 
Oh yes, Apple, privacy is important, but just registering a domain name doesn't accomplish anything toward that end. How about requiring apps to notify the user when their screen is being captured and the capture is being sent off the device?
 
Yes, marketing campaigns mean that a company is failing.

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If privacy is so important, stop demanding payment and just tell them about bugs when you find them.
So you like working for free?
Bug bounty is and should be rewarded because you don't just stumble across things by accident. Can't really believe you expect people to work for free.
 
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So you like working for free?
Bug bounty is and should be rewarded because you don't just stumble across things by accident. Can't really believe you expect people to work for free.
He's right. Apple should save their money because they probably don't have enough already. :rolleyes:
 
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Facebook still in the App Store after the privacy and data breach scandals the last few months

nuff said.

It's not THAT important to Apple; privacy

Apple is just a master in marketing and P.R. (only with a double moral/standard)
I mean, I can delete Facebook whenever I want, but I'd still rather have the option, you know?
 
Great for Cheating, and sex trafficking, and theft, and child porn, selling deadly weapons, planning terrorist attacks, etc.... is it really worth the government not reading your emails and texts from Grandma and your memes sent to friends?
 
There is no privacy on iPhones. It is a lie. Tim is a magician with words. Remember when he said he doesn't stash cash on Caribbean islands? It's stashed in Ireland. Different island!!

Same thing with privacy. Remember when he bragged about differential privacy? (Where they track you but without your name attached.) That is anonymity, not privacy.
 
Great for Cheating, and sex trafficking, and theft, and child porn, selling deadly weapons, planning terrorist attacks, etc.... is it really worth the government not reading your emails and texts from Grandma and your memes sent to friends?
Simply put, yes.

If you can show me some evidence that us giving up basically all personal information to the government will eliminate the things you mentioned then sure we can have that discussion.
 
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