You work for free? Yeah didn't think so.
It's a matter of the greater good. If my apartment house is on fire I would be expected to call the fire department...and not expect payment.
You work for free? Yeah didn't think so.
More cynical comments here. What is the deal with MacRumors these days? Apple literally cannot do anything right.![]()
Tagline: Siri sucks because Privacy is Important.
Tons of bugs are discovered by accident. In fact, I'd suspect the majority--I'm not an expert, though, so I don't know for sure.So you like working for free?
Bug bounty is and should be rewarded because you don't just stumble across things by accident. Can't really believe you expect people to work for free.
From the article I quoted. Please use your brain.36? So wrong. Where is your source? Everytime you unlock your iPhone, apple knows.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/18/average-iphone-unlocked-80-times-per-day/
Apple tracks everything you do.
It's a great unique selling point, they are smart to capitalize on it. One of the reasons I have stayed on iOS and macOS is because of the high level of privacy, I trust Apple more than I trust Microsoft and Google when it comes to privacy as they have shown a continued commitment to providing us with good privacy controls and strong encryption.
Yes, marketing campaigns mean that a company is failing.
/s
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If privacy is so important, stop demanding payment and just tell them about bugs when you find them.
Then they should seek out actual contracts to do work.You know that security researcher also need to pay bills?
From the article I quoted. Please use your brain.
“Apple tracks everything you do.”
Uhm, no.
It's fairly easy to avoid Google services if you choose, plenty of alternatives.
Start with avoiding google search. 1) Try www.duckduckgo.com 2) If you still just have to use Google search, use www.startpage.com which anonymizes google searches.
No they do not. They know that some random anonymous person unlocks their phone. They do not track that down to an individual.36? So wrong. Where is your source? Everytime you unlock your iPhone, apple knows.
https://www.macrumors.com/2016/04/18/average-iphone-unlocked-80-times-per-day/
Apple tracks everything you do.
They don't. They use random anonymous data to come to an average. They do not know how many times I specifically unlock my phone.Then how does apple know how many times you unlock your iPhone
Me discovering bugs in software belonging to a company with whom I have no professional contract is not work for which I should expect to be paid.
I like their original billboard better.
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Then it's a good thing that Apple pays actual employees to look for them, isn't it?You don't just happen upon the kind of bug we have in mind here. Those that you describe - the ones that you happen upon in day-to-day operations - are annoyances and rarely, if ever, have security consequence. The kind of bugs that lead to real security threats are the kind you do have to work to find. And nobody should or does find those for free.
You make a good analogy, but there is more to explore in your own example:Tons of bugs are discovered by accident. In fact, I'd suspect the majority--I'm not an expert, though, so I don't know for sure.
I can't really believe that you expect a company to compensate someone who did something on their own time without a contract or any request from the company. If I came outside to discover that someone had fixed my cracked windshield without me asking him and was now pushing me to pay him for it, I'd tell him to bug off (pun intended). If he did it out of the kindness of his heart, I probably would try to compensate him. But pressuring me to pay him for work I didn't ask him to do to begin with? That's a hard no.
Then it's a good thing that Apple pays actual employees to look for them, isn't it?
To take your own analogy: say you claim to be the only person who can see that my windshield is cracked and also alone have the ability to fix it. You refuse to do so unless I pay you. Now who is more morally culpable: me for not fixing the problem that I didn't know existed, or you for holding the safety of all those people over my head because you just want to get paid?You make a good analogy, but there is more to explore in your own example:
What if your car was being used to transport (and reasonably guarantee the safety of) people? That crack in your windshield now poses more of a threat than just the cosmetic inconvenience. Now you have people at risk because of your cracked windshield. Not to mention that in your example, you are the one that produced your cracked windshield. You bear the responsibility in the first place. What, are you just not going to fix it?
More to the point, the vulnerabilities are rarely that obvious. It is more like a slow, hidden leak of harmful, odorless gas that you would have to poke and pry to find. That takes a dedication.
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You miss the point, because they miss the bugs.
More cynical comments here. What is the deal with MacRumors these days? Apple literally cannot do anything right.![]()
[doublepost=1551805035][/doublepost]Agreed. It’s about time Cook pulled his finger out and got people drooling over Apple products again!Facebook still in the App Store after the privacy and data breach scandals the last few months
nuff said.
It's not THAT important to Apple; privacy
Apple is just a master in marketing and P.R. (only with a double moral/standard)
DuckDuckGo works fine. I haven’t missed google since I switched.
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Hard to be precise in a friggen domain name.
That’s what the pages at the domain are for.
No they do not. They know that some random anonymous person unlocks their phone. They do not track that down to an individual.
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They don't. They use random anonymous data to come to an average. They do not know how many times I specifically unlock my phone.
So aside all the nonsense here. How do you explain double standards from Apple? iOS has bounty, MacOS doesn't?Tons of bugs are discovered by accident. In fact, I'd suspect the majority--I'm not an expert, though, so I don't know for sure.
I can't really believe that you expect a company to compensate someone who did something on their own time without a contract or any request from the company. If I came outside to discover that someone had fixed my cracked windshield without me asking him and was now pushing me to pay him for it, I'd tell him to bug off (pun intended). If he did it out of the kindness of his heart, I probably would try to compensate him. But pressuring me to pay him for work I didn't ask him to do to begin with? That's a hard no.