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The new 13 Air will likely replace the MacBook Pro with CD-ROM as the new, old fashioned, entry level.

It does not make sense to sell a 12" and a 13" version of the same computer. One of the two would be cannibalised. A 14" would have much more sense, leaving 13 and 15 for the MBP. It would be typically Apple.
 
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Apple should justI et rid of them"Air" line altogether. Makes no sense. The MacBooks are just as light & thin. They should phase out the macbook airs and just have a 11" or 12" MacBook, a 13" MacBook and a 13" & 15" MacBook pros. Keep it simple.
 
I want to know what that 13" Macbook will be. Having a 12" and 13" rMB would be weird, and keeping the Air line seems confusing. Maybe they're making the Air line for education.
 
I agree. I had to buy a new(ish) Macbook recently. The new retina Macbook was on the comparison list. Lack of Magsafe was a huge first strike against it. It seems minor and petty, but it is not a compromise I am willing to make, not yet anyway.

Ditching MagSafe is just plain stupid. This is the best invention Apple had since the mouse. Period.

Hopefully, they've managed to come up with some kind of hybrid receptacle. One that connects regular USB-C plugs normally but can also magnetically hold on to a more shallow connector.

Personally, I think Apple will just have some special cable that can break away, like Griffin already has:
https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-power-cable

It might be an improved design of course.
 
An A10X MacBook capable of running macOS with iOS 10 apps in windowed mode would be interesting. It immediately would resolve the app gap. Apples like Office on iPad are pretty much mature. An Excel guru told me once, Excel on iOS is way more powerful than Excel 2003.
 
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Except iOS is already pretty much running the same kernel as macOS, so running full macOS on A10x probably wouldn't require a huge amount of engineering.

They kept developing OS X in parallel on PPC and Intel for years… it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they've been doing the same with the A-series chips, getting ready to make the switch when the price/performance/power consumption balance was right.
 
Being that they are consecutive model numbers, I highly doubt it would be two Macbook Pros and an Air. Now, I could see 3 Macbook Pros, 13",15",17".
Apple often has consecutive model numbers on ios devices like iphones, where a different model number would be a different cellular chip (att, verizon, unlocked.. ect)
Maybe the new 13" mac has a cellular chip?? haha.. that's just ridiculous.

Hopefully they will announce a plethora of new hardware, but only these 3 new models will be available immediately.
Apple has routinely announced new hardware but given several months lead time until it can be purchased...
 
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I wonder if the delay between updates was Apple taking the opportunity to say "**** it" to Intel, and building new MacBooks around their own processors. The leaps they've made with the A series in recent years have been incredible, and if they're truly "desktop class" performers with incredible power efficiency, they could be onto something.

If you're right, Apple computers will become even more irrelevant than if they just ignored them and sold all the current models for another two years.

Going to ARM based macs would increase sales in one respect - sales of refurbished and used intel macs by people stampeding to get the last best version of the intel machines.
 
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Ok, so Apple needs to clear their future plans with you before they go forward with their product roadmap? Yeah, that's how a multi-billion company should be run.

If you had ever worked in a professional environment where powerful workstations like the mac pro are your primary machines you would understand how important it is to have some kind of roadmap.
This "surprise we have a new model" stuff is great when it comes to the iDevices.
It's completely messed up to do the same with pro hardware.
There is a reason why so many companies jumped ship.
And I am afraid I will have to do the same...
 
I wonder if the delay between updates was Apple taking the opportunity to say "**** it" to Intel, and building new MacBooks around their own processors. The leaps they've made with the A series in recent years have been incredible, and if they're truly "desktop class" performers with incredible power efficiency, they could be onto something.

And just what would the end user do for software?

I was here for the last couple of processor jumps. If Apple switched to their own processors, it would be at least 5 years before one could expect to have the equivalent of what is currently available, if they move their product to the new architecture at all.

Yeah, it would be about 5 years - companies can't do this on a dime, and most are on 24 month cycles.
 
Updating the 13" Air (which I seriously doubt will be called the Air - just 13" MacBook) with only USB-C and no retina makes absolutely no sense. NO ONE will buy it! When the 12" MacBook debuted, all anyone wanted was an updated Air with Retina. Neglecting the screen and adding USB-C - a port that is not yet mainstream - will only anger people further. My guess is the 13" will have a more powerful processor (not a mobile processor), retina, AND USB-C ports - probably two of them. True Tone is a wildcard. This is a no-brainer for Apple.
 
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The average user is not purchasing a MacPro. I agree, the Mac Mini, in need of an update too, but I think most Mac users are primarily happy with the iMac. The iMac was updated last year with Skylake and that represents probably the majority of "desktop" Mac users. It was the category that brought back Apple to life in 1998. The Mac Pro is a niche device and Apple is obviously not enthused about the Pro market like they use to be. Look at the state of their Pro apps. Fincal Cut X has pretty much fallen behind and overwhelmed by a renewed Adobe Premier. What is the state of Motion, Aperture and Logic? Some of these apps don't even need a 3,500 dollar computer.

An entry level Mac is more than suitable for what most pro users need for getting the job done. Sometimes users are a bit caught up in the feeds and speeds propaganda out there. Remember, this was something Apple debunked a lot up to the time they switched to Intel. There are still many users getting by just fine on a 2011 Mini or 2010 MacBook Pro. The market is saturated. There isn't an overwhelming need for an update, but from a value for money perspective, many just want Apple to match up with their Windows counterparts.

I agree to a point. The iMac is certainly sufficient for a lot of what people need to do, but the whole point of an Mac pro was to offer up a premium design that has options the iMac doesn't. The "bring your own peripherals" work of desktop computers is being completely ignored. Multiple monitors on an iMac is possible but not ideal, and there's still no 5K standalone monitor from Apple. It's arguable that even if they announce one that it'll be price comparable to what's out there.

More at issue though is the fact that they're still selling these machines with hardware inside that is three years behind the curve for *the same price* as when they were released. It's madness. They must either discontinue or update. I don't care if it's a niche market, you need to at least cater to that market if you want to keep having offerings. What if someone wanted to sell you a 2013 Toyota for the same price as a 2016 one? Would you buy? This purgatory that Apple's got thier desktop users in is a *hit show. I myself use a Mac Mini as a HTPC, and I know of people who use them as servers. These need to be upgraded for people who want to keep doing so since Xserve went away. No one's going to set up a server farm of iMacs--the screens are pointless.

The fact that Apple has let their pro tools languish and in the case of Aperture vanish altogether is also bad news for their user base.

At the very least, they need to choose if they're going to stop offering the Mac Pro and upgrade if they choose to keep offering it, and update the Mac Mini to modern specs already.
 
As others have said, 'Hello Again' could mean Apple is releasing the MacBook line with their own A10 processors.

Perhaps a MacPad and MacPad Pro?
 
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Removing magsafe for a port that could probably break off or rip your Mac off the table? Genuise!

Just leave MagSafe,seriously, there is no reasoning for removing it. It's a Pro Model, it's not supposed to be thinner and compromise usability. Hence the creation of the Air.:rolleyes:
If they increase battery life I'm fine with removal of Magsafe. My iPad Pro doesn't have it and I don't miss it at all. Use it all day, charge it at night. And don't forget about wireless charging. Maybe not this time around, but someday soon (one would hope!)
 
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