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Apple Releases 27-Inch LED Cinema Display

I APPLAUD Apple for demonstrating the commitment to the environment. Aluminum and glass are recyclable materials, and their systems have been arsenic, mercury and PVC free for a long time now. Everyone complains about the "glossy" glass displays, but research the difference between glass and plastic fronts, not just on the environment but also on color/gamma correction. A lot of professionals use glass/glossy displays and simply implement a hood if needed. I have a 24" LED LCD and a 23" CCFL LCD in the same room, and the light varies quite often, I prefer the LED LCD, and I admit having the two allows for recognizing differences in projects, if any, which are rare. Besides, the price points for an IPS LED LCD panel with a built in camera and speakers are pretty darn good.

http://www.apple.com/macpro/environment.html
 
Hmm, i really wish they would offer a matte option in the future just like they are doing with the Macbook Pro's. Also wasn't the response time on the 24" 14ms? The 27" is listed at 12ms...I'm also surprised they can't get sub 10ms response times yet. Thats the one thing i worry about when playing games.
 
Kilamite said:
It's cheaper than the Dell equivalent.
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1)Dell monitors routinely go on sale...up to 40% off. You can view the Dell website every few days and there are always different sales. Not to mention you can find numerous websites that offer coupon codes. So that $1000 Dell will easily be found for $799 or less at some point in the very near future. Apple? Sales? Yeah right.

2)The Dells come with a 3-year immediate replacement warranty...what does Apple offer with the base $999 configuration?


I've had a Dell 24" monitor since early 2005 ($600 back then) and it's still awesome. No, I'm not a Photoshop person or a consumer who claims I can see 192 billion colors.

If I had to buy another LCD, I would a)buy a Dell (just Samsung rebranded if I am correct) and b)stick to a 24"...the 27" and larger from any vendor are still sky high for a lackluster 3 extra inches. Yawn. $189-$375 for a 24" and $700+ for a 27" on average. And I'm not even sure if I would need/want 27" as it would take an enormous amount of desk/office real estate.

Everyone's different, however. Some folks really do need a 27" or 30" LCD computer monitor.

-Eric
 
JohnnyLemonhead said:
Oh sure, spending $1K for an LCD monitor makes loads of sense. I would complain about the lack of a 20" option but I know it would be $500-$600 if it was offered. Once again, we have an Apple monitor priced roughly 2 times retail simply because it trim-matches our Apple computer perfectly.
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So, um, don't buy it?
 
tayaub said:
I've been waiting absolutely ages for Apple to release a new screen. The gloss I can deal with, not bothered about the foot long cable. BUT BUT BUT I MUST connect my ps3 to it.

I only want a screen to connect the MBPro and my PS3 please please please tell me this is possible using some sort of an adapter. I can remember reading that the recent 27 inch imacs could be used with a ps3 with the aid of an adapter.

Can i live in hope that this monitor will be the same?
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I think there's a good possibility this will work since this new monitor is 16:9 ratio like the iMac.

http://kanexlive.com/products/kanexXD.html
 
ericinboston said:
1)Dell monitors routinely go on sale...up to 40% off. You can view the Dell website every few days and there are always different sales. Not to mention you can find numerous websites that offer coupon codes. So that $1000 Dell will easily be found for $799 or less at some point in the very near future. Apple? Sales? Yeah right.

2)The Dells come with a 3-year immediate replacement warranty...what does Apple offer with the base $999 configuration?


I've had a Dell 24" monitor since early 2005 ($600 back then) and it's still awesome. No, I'm not a Photoshop person or a consumer who claims I can see 192 billion colors.

If I had to buy another LCD, I would a)buy a Dell (just Samsung rebranded if I am correct) and b)stick to a 24"...the 27" and larger from any vendor are still sky high for a lackluster 3 extra inches. Yawn. $189-$375 for a 24" and $700+ for a 27" on average. And I'm not even sure if I would need/want 27" as it would take an enormous amount of desk/office real estate.

Everyone's different, however. Some folks really do need a 27" or 30" LCD computer monitor.

-Eric
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I have a Dell monitor (was given it for free) and the color, motion, accuracy, and general quality of manufacturing blow compared to apple. But if you can't see the difference then don't buy apple products.
 
Naysayers

Lesser Evets said:
I have a 30" and an old iSight, and I wish I had this new monitor instead. About time they reduced screen size and added a camera. I'm not so sure where all the naysayers think the tech can go. 3000 x 2000 30" perhaps?
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The "naysayers" are the 99% of the population that don't need a "professional" monitor, that doesn't do "art work", "professional photography", or "Film editing"...

No the "naysayers" are the 99% of the population that needs a Macbook or Mac Mini and wants to surf the web, read email, sync with their iDevice, hunker down with a spreadsheet or type a memo in Word. We don't need a "professional grade" $1000 monitor (Since that Macbook and Mini use junk GPU's anyway, there would be little advantage)...

No most of us just needs a good general use monitor. My Macs are hooked up to a 24" Hannspree and a 26" Acer. They are fantastic monitors for general use (they're not "crappy", "clunky", "junky" or any other fan-boy characterization) , cost less than $400 each (actually less that $300), and it's a damn shame that Apple (The company that "Cares so much about all of us") doesn't offer a reasonably price monitor.

Yeah, Steve really cares about the consumers.
 
Why am I not surprised @ :apple: Glossy screen, MDP only, no power button, no OSD, no height adjustment or swivel, no nothing @ $999.

The Dell U2711 blows this one out of the water, easy. Connections and adjustments galore @ $1099.

:cool:
 
I'll give you points for being proactive with the environmentalism but the reason many of us bought a MacPro was to get away from being tethered to a giant mirror. Everyone says "crank the brightness up to counter the glare/reflections" but to calibrate it at 120-140cd/m2 you have to reduce the brightness allowing more glare/reflections. It's counter-intuitive.



bedifferent said:
I APPLAUD Apple for demonstrating the commitment to the environment. Aluminum and glass are recyclable materials, and their systems have been arsenic, mercury and PVC free for a long time now. Everyone complains about the "glossy" glass displays, but research the difference between glass and plastic fronts, not just on the environment but also on color/gamma correction. A lot of professionals use glass/glossy displays and simply implement a hood if needed. I have a 24" LED LCD and a 23" CCFL LCD in the same room, and the light varies quite often, I prefer the LED LCD, and I admit having the two allows for recognizing differences in projects, if any, which are rare. Besides, the price points for an IPS LED LCD panel with a built in camera and speakers are pretty darn good.

http://www.apple.com/macpro/environment.html
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John Gruber confirms that the 27 inch Cinema Display will be the ONLY standalone display sold by Apple once released. The 24 and 30 inch displays are being discontinued.
 
*Hugs his 24" LED ACD tightly*

16.9 belongs on TVs not on computer monitors IMHO. Also why not do a Matte version. Having ONLY a 27" Glossy display alienates a lot of prospective buyers.
 
"LED display" misleading a bit?

They're calling this an "LED display", but when you dig deeper, you find out that it's just the back light that's LED, which has been in the MBP since like 2008. Based on the name, the first impression is that the display itself is LED, meaning that the pixels are LEDs, which is also existing technology. Boy is Apple being sloppy with their marketing literature. ... Or are they?
 
meatballs said:
Why am I not surprised @ :apple: Glossy screen, MDP only, no power button, no OSD, no height adjustment or swivel, no nothing @ $999.

The Dell U2711 blows this one out of the water, easy. Connections and adjustments galore @ $1099.

:cool:
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To those that care there is big difference in environmental impact. Dell equipment still uses PVC, lead, bio-accumulating flame retardants, etc.
 
slicecom said:
Whatever makes you feel better about your outdated display. :p
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He he.

Its the same LED/IPS technology, same ports and features, same contrast ratio, same viewing angles, same colours...same everything save for the bigger size (too big for me) and weird resolution (no thanks)

Makes me feel all kinds of better about my 'outdated' panel. :cool:
 
canyonblue737 said:
John Gruber confirms that the 27 inch Cinema Display will be the ONLY standalone display sold by Apple once released. The 24 and 30 inch displays are being discontinued.
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+1 for the 30" ACD. I've had mine for about 18months now. Wouldn't give it up for anything. Sad day if they get discontinued. IMHO it can't be beat for print production fidelity. Time to start taking care of this one ;-)

In my studio, glossy is a literal pain with reflections. It's got to be matte. I don't mind the glossy on my MBP, (apart from being slightly oversaturated) I can hold it at a slightly different angle. Don't intend to do that with a big screen Looks like I might have bought my last Apple monitor. :-(
 
theosib said:
They're calling this an "LED display", but when you dig deeper, you find out that it's just the back light that's LED, which has been in the MBP since like 2008. Based on the name, the first impression is that the display itself is LED, meaning that the pixels are LEDs, which is also existing technology. Boy is Apple being sloppy with their marketing literature. ... Or are they?
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LED and CCFL refer to the backlighting of any LCD. CCFL has been around for a while, it is used in Apple's current 30" LCD (Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamps). LED (Light Emitted Diodes) is newer, much more energy efficient, and is debatable between professionals with regard to color accuracy (some claim it is too over lit, while overs claim it is much better).

Apple is ahead of the game in terms of LED LCD's. OLED (Organic Light Emitted Diodes) are the next step, with even less power consumption and brighter displays. However they are prohibitively expensive.


hexor said:
To those that care there is big difference in environmental impact. Dell equipment still uses PVC, lead, bio-accumulating flame retardants, etc.
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THANK YOU. It is refreshing that someone else notices this extremely crucial aspect to Apple displays and systems. Aluminum, glass, mercury and arsenic and PVC free systems make a BIG difference in the e-waste that is destroying our environment. Do most people need all these "inputs"???

Read "The Story of Stuff", an eye opening examination of North America's impact on disposable technology on the environment and the third world nations our garbage lands in. It's disturbing.
 
KnightWRX said:
Cheaper than the U2711, less options. Did Apple actually make this thing competitive ? I'm impressed.

Remains to be seen if the display is comparable.
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Actually, you can get the u2711 for cheap if you look. Get it from the UCSD bookstore for example. It's in the 600 range (you just have to call or email).
 
meatballs said:
Why am I not surprised @ :apple: Glossy screen, MDP only, no power button, no OSD, no height adjustment or swivel, no nothing @ $999.

The Dell U2711 blows this one out of the water, easy. Connections and adjustments galore @ $1099.
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True. It's fugly though...

Is there a good (better than apple) wide gamut monitor on the market that looks good too? ideally silver and black...
 
bedifferent said:
A lot of professionals use glass/glossy displays and simply implement a hood if needed.

http://www.apple.com/macpro/environment.html
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+1 I dont think a lot of these "pros" have even tried glossy. I remember a friend long ago telling me "glossy is better". I never had a glossy monitor but I believed the BS I read on photography forums...until he proved that BS wrong.

Well, I ended up switching to glossy monitors (I did a ton of photography a few years ago) and I was amazed how much more accurate glossy was verses matte.

I have access to a ton of high end calibration gear and no matter what I did the matte screen couldn't come as close color wise to the glossy. I showed my friend does designs for her shoe company on her monitors compared to my glossies, and needless to say she converted too.

I know some people prefer matte because they sit with their back to a window or something and thats fine, but as far as color accuracy, give glossy a try and I'm pretty sure you will be amazed.
 
bedifferent said:
THANK YOU. It is refreshing that someone else notices this extremely crucial aspect to Apple displays and systems. Aluminum, glass, mercury and arsenic and PVC free systems make a BIG difference in the e-waste that is destroying our environment. Do most people need all these "inputs"???

Read "The Story of Stuff", an eye opening examination of North America's impact on disposable technology on the environment and the third world nations our garbage lands in. It's disturbing.
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I think you've spent a little too much time on Apple's product pages.

The picture in picture alone is worth it.
 
Eidorian said:
I think you've spent a little too much time on Apple's product pages.

The picture in picture alone is worth it.
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Maybe, but as a consumer who is eco-conscious I work hard in educating people in how we can all make a difference. A lot of talk on MacRumors and other tech sites overlook the fact that Apple is leading the industry with regard to eco-friendlier products. All the complaints on specs from so many (and I highly doubt 90+% of the commentators on MacRumors need even half of what they demand) just demonstrates the unnecessary need for power hungry systems. Most would get by very well with the quad core iMac.

I would rather be mocked for enlightening others than sitting by and letting things continue.
 
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