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And to all the angrified people about RAW support - it's built in to the OS, not the app, so surely 10.5.2 and Aperture 1.5 will be able to pick up teh new camera support.....

Well, apparently the cameras that were added most recently will only work with 10.4.11 or 10.5.2 AND Aperture 2:
Apple said:
* Cameras and camera backs followed by an asterisk require Aperture 2 with Mac OS X Tiger v10.4.11 or Mac OS X Leopard v10.5.2 or later.

Pssh, I got the 1.5.6 serial number too. In fact, I've applied for the serial number three times now (twice with one email address, once with another address) and have got the same serial number in each instance! Perhaps there’s only one trial serial number? (I'm not going to post the full serial number here though for obvious reasons, but mine ends in …NVJ-170-RED-WDH.)

I'm pretty excited about the new Raw decoding. It definitely looks like they've heavily drawn inspiration from ACR/Lightroom. I played with Lightroom last week for fun and like the Raw decoding very much, but still dislike the workflow as much as I did when I tried the original beta.

Also, they've finally brought in lens metadata! And the ability to see whether you're in Onscreen Proofing mode on the main window! And basic DNG support so if you've got some spiffy new camera whose Raw format isn't yet natively supported, you can convert the Raw files to DNG and work on those in Aperture! The application seems like it’s become competitive again: I'm glad I've stuck with it.

I really should be writing about Euripides and Seneca, but I seem to have been distracted…
 
And to all the angrified people about RAW support - it's built in to the OS, not the app, so surely 10.5.2 and Aperture 1.5 will be able to pick up teh new camera support.....

Not true. All of the cameras for which "OS-level" support was added in 10.5.2 still don't work in Aperture 1.5.x (despite Preview and iPhoto being able to decode the images). So unless they decide to push out a final 1.5.7 point release, owners of the D3/D300 and the other newly added cameras will have to either upgrade to 2.0 or move to Lightroom or another converter.
 
Yes but not everyone is on 10.5.x. Think about it. :rolleyes:

I will buy v.2.0 but not if it can't support my d300.

Aperture RAW support has always been tied to the OS. This release does not change that. You will not get d300 support from Aperture 2.0 on 10.4.11.
 
It's good to see this. I'm mostly happy with 1.5 at the moment, but will probably upgrade when I have some extra cash.

There was a feeling among Aperture users that Apple had mostly abandoned Aperture, and was only going to issue minor updates for the rest of its lifetime. But I guess this release thankfully proves us wrong.

Just wish it weren't a $99 ding!
 
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I don't know. Though I know they will soon do it. The current revision is still a great laptop, minus the multitouch. The only issue with multitouch is that it is only in apple apps.

Sheesh, compuguy, you don't get the joke, do you? He just emphasized he meant it the first time as sarcasm, since some other guy said this thread would be littered with comments such as "but where is my MPB?".

Sorry! I guess I didn't catch that.
 
Aperture RAW support has always been tied to the OS. This release does not change that. You will not get d300 support from Aperture 2.0 on 10.4.11.

I didn't say that I would. I simply said if they build it into 10.5.x then they can piss off because not everyone moved to Leopard and some who have moved back to Tiger. ;)
 
10.5.2 added support to Aperture 1.5 and iPhoto for a lot of new cameras. Which one in particular is supported by Aperture 2.0, but not Aperture 1.5 running on 10.5.2?

I wish that were true, but it isn't.

Even after installing the 10.5.2 update the new cameras were only supported for iPhoto, finder, preview, etc. Not Aperture.

So if people like myself who have one of the newer cameras want to continue using Aperture with it, we have no choice but to upgrade.
 
Well, apparently the cameras that were added most recently will only work with 10.4.11 or 10.5.2 AND Aperture 2:


Pssh, I got the 1.5.6 serial number too. In fact, I've applied for the serial number three times now (twice with one email address, once with another address) and have got the same serial number in each instance! Perhaps there’s only one trial serial number? (I'm not going to post the full serial number here though for obvious reasons, but mine ends in …NVJ-170-RED-WDH.)

I got the exact same one. Four times.
 
I wish that were true, but it isn't.

Even after installing the 10.5.2 update the new cameras were only supported for iPhoto, finder, preview, etc. Not Aperture.

So if people like myself who have one of the newer cameras want to continue using Aperture with it, we have no choice but to upgrade.

That's very strange: it's certainly not been the way with any prior update to RAW support. As soon as the OS support was added for my 400D Aperture supported it without any update to Aperture...
 
No brainer of the century!

EPP price $165.20!!!!!

What a low barrier to entry to the hobbiest and prosumer.
 
Trial

Hmmm, how 'nice'... You can download 2.0, but they'll send you a 1.5 trial serial...
 


Apple announced Aperture 2, the next major release of its photo editing and management software. The new version features over 100 new features with a streamlined user interface and entirely new image processing engine.

I hope the "over 100 new features" isn't just a padded number like what Apple did w/ Tiger where every single widget was counted as a new feature. But then again, I don't use Aperture so I don't really care.
 
Hmmm, how 'nice'... You can download 2.0, but they'll send you a 1.5 trial serial...

Yup, and the newest "revelation" is that we all got the same serial …

This really doesn't instill any sort of confidence in Apple for me.
 
So now does Apple have the upper hand with the release of this compared to Adobe's Lightroom. Aperture 2.0 looks like it has taken some cues from Lightroom and a little bit from iPhoto '08. Thoughts?


PS Looks really good.
 
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EPP price $165.20!!!!!

What a low barrier to entry to the hobbiest and prosumer.

Lucky! The EDU store for my campus says it is $179.
 
As a recent purchaser of 1.5, I hardly think this is a good deal. I paid $299 just three weeks ago and now they drop the price by $100 and I STILL have to pay $9.95 to get 2.0?
 
There's gotta be an angle?!?

Get this, my local CompUSA that is going out of business has a couple of copies of Aperture 1.5 for 30% off retail ($299)...$209.30. That's like $10 MORE than the current 2.0 and that doesn't count the $9.95 upgrade price you'd have to pay just to get to v2.0. Something tells me that until that percentage drops to 40% off it wouldn't make much sense for anyone to buy them.
 
As a recent purchaser of 1.5, I hardly think this is a good deal. I paid $299 just three weeks ago and now they drop the price by $100 and I STILL have to pay $9.95 to get 2.0?

You paid a price you considered fair for a product. You still have that product and it still works. Therefore you have no right to complain at all. You should think yourself very lucky they offer you the $9.95 deal at all.

If I buy a car and a few weeks later they release an updated model can I pay 1/20th of the cost of the new model to upgrade? I don't think so.
 
I'm wondering how performance has improved/taken a hit. I switched to lightroom earlier this year, mainly out of fear of jumping back to windows, or having to work in a dual os environment. But all my stuff is still in Aperture, so I dunno.

Anyone notice any improvements in speed?
 
Couple of questions for professionals (photographers) utilizing Aperture:

First - I'm a pro completely using Adobe LR & CS3. Can any of you point to a website with direct comparisons of the two products LR & Aperture?

Second - I'm looking for a solution for digital asset management. The Apple website really doesn't focus too much on it's capabilities as a "library management tool" other than saying it's powerful enough to handle it. Are any of you using Aperture for this purpose?

Aperture 2.0 looks promising and I'm looking for a tool that has Lightroom's capabilities but also a strong management tool to catalog the 10's of thousands of images I'm creating yearly. Something LR lacks right now.

Thanks
 
The first time I requested a serial, they sent me the 1.5 trial link. The second time, they actually sent me 2.0... downloading now...
 
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