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i wonder how many mbp's apple has sold in the last 2 hours? :) or maybe i should ask, how much has apple made in the last 2 hours.

i bought my mbp without apple care, can i add it on now? i am starting to regret not getting it..
 
yes it can be added. You can wait until your 1 year warranty is coming to an end and see how things are going.
 
sixth said:
i bought my mbp without apple care, can i add it on now? i am starting to regret not getting it..

I think you can get it anytime during the first year after the purchase.
 
wildmac said:
I think it was really both. But EVERYONE knew these were coming. It was just a matter of which week.
Yes, that's right, that's why we are here, and we do have the Buyer's Guide here after all.
 
As advertised

lazyrighteye said:
What are peeps' opinion on the screen options?
I have never used glossy. Looks alright, in person. Not sure how it would be for everyday use tho...

Otherwise, nice update.

I'm sure it's a personal thing, but since you asked. I love it. I rarely notice any glare and it has never been a negitive issue for me under any lighting conditions. There is slight glare in some situations, but it's not very noticable and doesn't distract. But in optimal lighting the screen looks fantastic. What sold me was looking at two MBPs next to each other at an Apple store, one with and one without, and the glossy was hands down better looking, even in that bright light. Colors are so much more rich and saturated. I've not regretted my decision. I would buy glossy again.
 
mr yellow said:
I'm the same as one of the previous posters, for my audio app (Ableton Live) there's no way I'd splash that sort of cash on a MBP with a 5400 drive.

You're not going to get good performance on an audio app with *any* internal drive. For serious work, you need your audio data on a second drive, not the boot drive.

840quadra said:
Now I want to see proof of purchase from everyone who spammed the forums, tripled their post count, and disrespected those who didn't wait and bought normal core duo MBPs.

More than that I want to know which of the many that threatened to get PC laptops if apple didn't ship fast enough actually did it. I'm guessing few to none.

Jessy said:
I was thouroughly unimpressed with the update today. I got the refurb offered at $1599 that comes with a faster processor...

I think you're confused. You mean the processor with the higher clock rate, right?

Detektiv-Pinky said:
Is this a general fact? Or only some especially nice person on the Apple Customer Service?

Here's the link on the apple site:
http://www.apple.com/support/store/postpurchase.html
"Price protection
If Apple reduces the price on any product within 10 calendar days of shipment, you can request a refund or credit of the difference between the price you were charged and the current price."

There's more info on the page.
 
802.11-pre-N ?

In some earlier posts people noticed that the new 20" Imac's Airport Extreme (54G) cards were being detected as pre-N cards in Windows Vista (bootcamp).

Can any early buyers have a look at how the MacBook Pro's Airport Extreme cards are being detected under Windows Vista?

I would assume these would make use of pre-N chips as well which could hint at possibly iTV support or driver/firmware updates in the (near) future without having to upgrade the hardware...

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2ndPath said:
I think you can get it anytime during the first year after the purchase.
Yes, that's right, within one year after the purchase.
 
wildmac said:
Digital Photography on the road. Lots of raw-format files. I can chew up that space quickly.
I know the drill - I do quite a bit of photo work on the road as well and the image files do chew up space. But c'mon - be reasonable. First, your "archives" shouldn't be stored on your notebook for both reliability reasons, as well as space issues. That should all be stored on an external drive anyway.

But even so, if you have a 100GB drive, and have 60GB worth of system files (which is a TON) that still leaves you safely 30-40GB of disk space for RAW files. If you can put 30-40GB of RAW files on your notebook during a shoot before you can get home or to the office to back them up onto an external drive, then you take too many photos. ;)
 
BruinJohn said:
I think the best time to purchase a MB/MBP would be after the release of Leopard because I don't know how they will make Time Machine work with the current hard drives. Will these hard drives be partitioned equally?

You can just repartition the drive to meet your needs. :rolleyes:

I doubt Time Machine is going to require separate partitions, not a big deal if it does. But anyway, TM seems to be working fine for most of the beta testers on current systems, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Yes, it eats up HD space, but you can determine how much space it uses and how far back you want TM to allow you to "travel".

I like the MB's because they have user replaceable HD's, which means you can continue to update the space, and speed of your HD. I think the MBP should get this option too.

I agree that the MBP should get that option too. I swapped out the HD in my 15" MBP when I got it... Not fun.

Anyways, just thinking outloud. But personally, I am waiting for a new MB because of the convenient HD and RAM accessibility, which is more important to me than the super fast processor, cuz faster processor means hotter computer.

The MB will probably have the 2GHz and 2.16GHz C2D CPUs when it's upgraded. You're sacrificing a lot by going to the MB though... FW800, Expresscard, no dedicated GPU = horrid GMA950 graphics, smaller screen, etc... The accessible HD bay is nice. RAM accessibility is easy on both the MB and MBP. I personally haven't swapped RAM on a MB, but I've heard that it's a tighter fit and a little more difficult on the MB. No big deal either way.
 
CPTMONK said:
am i right in think the 5400rpm is only bad when CAPTURING video footage, does it make a difference when you edit?

Why is it that in the "Mac World" people seen tho measure disk preformance by how fast the platters spin. That's like looking at the Tachometer in your car to see how fast you are going.

What matters is the "bit rate" This is the product of the tangential speed of the platter under the read/write head time the "bit density". So for example of the platter were going at 100 inches per second and it had 1000 bits per inch the bit rate would be 100,000 bits per second. Simple?

These newer high capasity drives, 160GB and even 200GB hold nore data. You might guess that the reason they hold more data is they use a higher "bit density". More density and same rotational speed means they are faster.

It you care about battery life the best way to make a drive faster is not to spin it faster but to double the bit density.
 
I'm a college student that's been waiting for this upgrade for a long, long time, and now that it's finally here, I can't decide how much RAM to get. I'd be doing mostly music editing, music library-ing, internet surfing, word processing, and at my job over the summer, some 3-D modeling - which would possibly carry over into my school life at some point. Also some light video editing, photo library-ing, programming, and that's about it.

I plan on getting the 15" 2.16 GHz, but can someone give me some pointers as far as RAM goes? thanks.
 
i am curious when the new mbp's will be available in the stores. i want to call but then again i am sure they are getting a call every 5 minutes with people asking the same question. i don't want to be one of those people. :rolleyes:
 
Don't Buy The Refurbs

bikertwin said:
Is it just me, or does the previous generation models seem awfully cheap on the Refurb page?

I just ordered a 2.13 GHz 1 GB 256 MB RAM 15" model for $1599. OK, it doesn't have FW800, but it's a steal compared to the new base model that's the same except it only has 128 MB RAM and FW800.

Oh, the new ones have bigger HD's, too. Still seems pretty cheap for the refurb. Almost in the MacBook (non-Pro) price range.
I would cancel that order and get the C2D 2.16GHz 15" Ed for only $1799. Remember it has 4MB L2 cache and according to the CD vs C2D speed comparisons is a lot faster even at the same speed as CD. That plus the FW800 port will make it have a much higher resale value than what you just bought.

CANCEL CANCEL CANCEL CANCEL CANCEL CANCEL CANCEL
 
deputy_doofy said:
I am suggesting exactly that. It doesn't mean that it applies to you, but it's very common on here for people to create accounts just to complain about what Apple still doesn't offer. Then, when new models are released, regardless if the specs meet the whiner's requirements, they simply disappear. I've seen it over and over and over and over again.

Well, that actually makes sense. Not everyone is interested in rumours for the sake of rumours (I am). Some people come here for buying advice.

Those that come for buying advice stick around until the product's released. They disappear either because they bought the product or they bought a PC product, or whatever. Why would they come back after that?

Maybe for the "community", but (a) not everyone wants a "community" for their computer, and (b) there are other Mac community sites, anyway.
 
Does anyone know how long it usually takes resellers like Amazon to get new new items? I really want one of these new MBP's but it would be nice to not have to pay any tax.
 
Jvhowube said:
I'm a college student that's been waiting for this upgrade for a long, long time, and now that it's finally here, I can't decide how much RAM to get. I'd be doing mostly music editing, music library-ing, internet surfing, word processing, and at my job over the summer, some 3-D modeling - which would possibly carry over into my school life at some point. Also some light video editing, photo library-ing, programming, and that's about it.

I plan on getting the 15" 2.16 GHz, but can someone give me some pointers as far as RAM goes? thanks.
Get as much RAM as you can afford. RAM is one of the key kogs that makes your system go, and the more you have, the faster it flies. It's really that simple. Having too little RAM can really bottleneck your system and waste some of its resources.

Easiest way to explain it... RAM is like booze, women, and weed. The more the merrier.
 
zenvision said:
ableton live runs fine with 5400 drives...even when playing live and warping mp3s on the fly! have you had bad experience with those drives or something? im an ableton live user you see...

Another Ableton Live user here fine on a 5400rpm Hitachi drive in my 12" powerbook.

4200rpm Toshiba drive struggles in my other laptop though.
 
ChrisA said:
Why is it that in the "Mac World" people seen tho measure disk preformance by how fast the platters spin. That's like looking at the Tachometer in your car to see how fast you are going.

What matters is the "bit rate" This is the product of the tangential speed of the platter under the read/write head time the "bit density". So for example of the platter were going at 100 inches per second and it had 1000 bits per inch the bit rate would be 100,000 bits per second. Simple?

These newer high capasity drives, 160GB and even 200GB hold nore data. You might guess that the reason they hold more data is they use a higher "bit density". More density and same rotational speed means they are faster.

It you care about battery life the best way to make a drive faster is not to spin it faster but to double the bit density.


and the answer to my question is...?
 
daneoni said:
Pick one 2.16GHz/160GB HDD or 2.33GHz/120GB HDD. If you had to choose...?

The latter, no question. Faster drive speed + faster processor = better performance. You wont miss the 40GB locally. If you're using up that much space, you should really have an external drive anyway. It's a notebook, not a storage device.
 
Finally, I'm glad to see these updated models released now as opposed to later. They will be strong sellers this holiday season
 
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