Great update! Although the MacBook Pro in my sig has been out-of-date for a few months now, I am glad to see the C2D in the MBP. Hopefully I'll still be able to sell it next summer so that I can get a Leopard/Vista MBP for freshman year in '07!
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Apple Releases Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro
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I sold it to my sister for a big loss, because I'm a nice brother (the only way she was ever going to afford one) and I made a good amount of money over the summer. Sold it to her for refurb price...so $1600 (Got it for $1800some)joshwest said:
Will have to steal the RAM and case back, now that I'm 'bout to get this new diddy
psycoswimmer said:This is a sweet update. You're getting a lot more for less, especially with the base model. And 2GB of RAM with the upper models.
This is great for me, personally, because as I have no need for 64 bit support of the microscopic speed increase, Core Duo MBP will be cheaper, and I might by one of those.
I unerstand about not needing the 64-bit capabilities but remember that with Leopard not too far off (having all that 64-bit support) then you may want to think about it for the future. After Leopard, more apps will take at least SOME advantage (or maybe all) of the 64-bit power. And after 10.5 64-bit support and performance will just get better (optimization etc.)
And like I said in a previoous reply (page 19)... the C2Ds have much improved SSEx integer units. For me thats a HUGE plus!!!
aka rendering, ripping, and encoding = faster faster faster
CanadianGrit said:
It is correct that Santa Rosa is a Centrino upgrade. Napa was, as well. However, Centrino isn't a processor, it is a _platform_ which includes a processor, chipset, wifi, and onboard graphics. It is not designed for high end laptops, but meant for a lower cost all in one platform, which is why the higher speed and better performing processors of a particular type (say the core 2 duo) aren't usually included in a centrino labeled machine (Apple hasn't gone this route yet, and it isn't clear that they will; if they do, it would only be in the macbook and not the macbook pro). Now, Crestline, which is the mobile 965 chipset (and the chipset that is part of the santa rosa platform) for use with merom core 2 duos, will likely be included in future upgrades to the macbook pro and macbook lines. They will also support the new socket for future merom chips. So, you are correct that santa rosa is the successor to the centrino line (which is currently labeled centrino duo for the core processors) and will be called "centrino pro" when it is out. But this is completely independent of being able to use a merom core 2 duo processor or not.
Cheers.
STLSigns said:
COMPLETELY AGREE...
The only good thing about those people is that they keep Apple on their toes and that keeps them going strong i guess.
Unlike with M$, the Windozzz world has accepted mediocracy. But I think that is slowly starting to change.
one word - "rotational latency"
One is head movement time, or "seek time" - if you have to move to a different cylinder, it takes a small number of milliseconds to move the head arm to the new position.
The second component is rotational latency - one the head is at the right cylinder, it has to wait for the data to arrive at the position of the head.
The faster the platter, the sooner the data will be available.
For a lot more detail, look at http://www.storagereview.com/map/lm.cgi/access
When you have to move the heads for a random seek, there are two components to the seek time.ChrisA said:
One is head movement time, or "seek time" - if you have to move to a different cylinder, it takes a small number of milliseconds to move the head arm to the new position.
The second component is rotational latency - one the head is at the right cylinder, it has to wait for the data to arrive at the position of the head.
The faster the platter, the sooner the data will be available.
For a lot more detail, look at http://www.storagereview.com/map/lm.cgi/access
I hate human nature.
You get what you have been asking for and now you complain some more.
You got more memory (2gb standard in 2 models!!!) and your freaking core 2 duo.
Shut up and stop complaining.
You get what you have been asking for and now you complain some more.
You got more memory (2gb standard in 2 models!!!) and your freaking core 2 duo.
Shut up and stop complaining.
mac4evan said:I unerstand about not needing the 64-bit capabilities but remember that with Leopard not too far off (having all that 64-bit support) then you may want to think about it for the future. After Leopard, more apps will take at least SOME advantage (or maybe all) of the 64-bit power. And after 10.5 64-bit support and performance will just get better (optimization etc.)
And like I said in a previoous reply (page 19)... the C2Ds have much improved SSEx integer units. For me thats a HUGE plus!!!
I suppose you're right. I'm still going to get an iMac as my first mac though, so I can worry about later.
daneoni said:
I agree. Should help conserve power and reduce heat output (similar to processors throttling down when idle). As long as the firmware works correctly, of courrse! I get annoyed by the comments about how you can get these souped up 3d cards in an alienware laptop, etc. If you want a bulky computer that gets no batterylife, then sure... ugh.
cheers.
psycoswimmer said:I suppose you're right. I'm still going to get an iMac as my first mac though, so I can worry about later.
The iMac is an awesome machine. Both in value and performance.
I sell more iMacs then I do any other Mac. Odd I know. Would have thought the MacBook right?
SOME people like the idea of having the 24inch iMac in their bedroom with wireless internet and printing and keyboard and mouse and front row... you can already (with little effort or extra money) turn it into a media center (sort of)
riversky said:
Correcting my previous post...it's not totally wrong, because a different volume is needed, which means you could make do with a different partition. The purpose of TM is not only to make an ordinary "backup", but to be able to recover to some previous state of the hard disk in time, and this CAN be done in the same disk. For backup you have a thousand solutions already...the catch of TM is to be able to "jump" in time from one file tree/set of files to another...this has NOTHING to do with external drives.
I am anxiously awaiting it's arrival in stores.. I'm going out of town on the 3rd for over a week so I figure if I ordered it online, it wouldn't get here until after the 3rd.. maybe I can buy it while I'm out of town or maybe it will be out in stores before the 3rd? I called the apple customer service line and the woman told me they should be in stores today, but all the stores I called in the LA area said they have no clue when it will be in. Any insight from anyone?
mac4evan said:I completely understand everyones frustration with this move because since I do lot's of FCP video stuff as a hobby, I of course have a 7200rpm drive (both internal & external) and could not live without it. I am dredding people coming in over the next few weeks bitching to me as to why Apple does not give that option. Although at least when you go to buy in the store you get whats on that card for the most part. I think they did it because of cost-saving measures.
If people ask I'll just tell them Apple did market research as they do with all their products and found that to be the best solution blah blah blah (which may be true) - Case in point: MacBook = Only Glossy
Again, I still understand the frustration though because many people feel the 17inch is too big (although not me
Quick question since you work at a store and might know this. Will the stores be discounting their current stock of the old line of MBPs and if so how much? Looking at the great deal for the refurbs (1449 for base 2ghz) and I'm wondering what the stores are going to do with their remaining stock. Thanks!
I Need Your Opinion
So of course i am one of the impatient users that needed a Macbook and could not wait any longer. I purchased mine Last Tuesday, exactly a week ago, Should I return it and pay the $130 restocking fee because the new Macbook's should be right around the corner or just keep what I have and be happy with it?
So of course i am one of the impatient users that needed a Macbook and could not wait any longer. I purchased mine Last Tuesday, exactly a week ago, Should I return it and pay the $130 restocking fee because the new Macbook's should be right around the corner or just keep what I have and be happy with it?
TwitchOSX said:
Depending on your perspective, a Saint...or just another one of those Intel ridiculous roadmap buzzwords...
NOT even available... I just called the APPLE store.. they said it would be at least 1 week before new LAP TOPS arrive..
dkoralek said:
While that is a benefit, the original poster is correct. Time Machine requires an external or second drive.
It isn't all that revolutionary. If you read the fine print, it basically does an initial full backup of your system, then each day, at midnight or (some designated time), it auotmatically makes differential backups of files that you have changed that day but you must be connected to a second or external drive. Later when you activate Time Machine you can use the unique interface to either restore the whole system or individuals files to any point in time for which you have time machine archives.
So yes, your do need another physical drive besides the main system drive.
digitalbiker said:
Although you don't need it physically connected to the machine; it can be a network drive.