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Hey Bill

A 60GB LMR drive will perform very similarly to a 100GB, or any other capacity, 2.5" LMR drive, all other factors being equal. All 100GB 2.5" drives use LMR.

Isn't there something about the higher capacity being faster due to there being more info on a smaller area on the disk itself.:confused:
 
Now I am officially mad. Can't track my order anywhere. The best I could get is this message from TNT.

27 Oct 2006 10:41 Shanghai Shipped From Originating Depot

Yeah, I am in the UK...

My estimated arrival time is 1st of November, but A called Apple and they told me the MBP will arrive on 6th of November. Gosh, will I ever get the gad damn thing.
 
I'm just reading about PMR now that I have a reason... good link BillGates, thanks. Also read this as simple primer - doesn't get into performance at all, just the basic idea of PMR: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpendicular_recording

Pff, why read wikipedia when you can kick back and watch this! One, two, three, kick it! :p
Now I am officially mad. Can't track my order anywhere. The best I could get is this message from TNT.

27 Oct 2006 10:41 Shanghai Shipped From Originating Depot

Yeah, I am in the UK...

My estimated arrival time is 1st of November, but A called Apple and they told me the MBP will arrive on 6th of November. Gosh, will I ever get the gad damn thing.

Yeah being in the UK sucks wrt to shipping times. My shipping status (via appletrack) hasn't changed since Wednesday and is still "Departed from source". Hopefully I'll see some progress on Monday.
 
Yeah being in the UK sucks wrt to shipping times. My shipping status (via appletrack) hasn't changed since Wednesday and is still "Departed from source". Hopefully I'll see some progress on Monday.

Appletrack doesn't work with me because the laptop is shipped using TNT and apparently (someone told me) TNT doesn't work with appletrack.

Life suck..
 
Here's your proof: 2 160GB 5400RPM laptop drives exist. One by Seagate, one by Hitachi. Both are PMR. Apple doesn't make their own hard drive, hence they use one of the aforemention. Hence, the Apple drive is PMR.

Edit: Western Digital and perhaps others also make 160GB drives, and those drives are also PMR.

Okay, and you know that these unnamed "others" are using PMR exactly how? :D

Look, I'm really hoping Apple's drive is PMR; but your statement just boils down to "at least some of the 160GB notebook drives are PMR, and I want this to be true; so it must be true". You're just repeating what other people have said here. :)

Apparently what it boils down to is this: At the moment, no one knows whose 160GB drive is in the new Macbook Pro. We'll have to wait until someone here has received theirs, and then we'll be to resolve this by looking at the System Profiler.
 
Okay, and you know that these unnamed "others" are using PMR exactly how? :D

Look, I'm really hoping Apple's drive is PMR; but your statement just boils down to "at least some of the 160GB notebook drives are PMR, and I want this to be true; so it must be true". You're just repeating what other people have said here. :)

Apparently what it boils down to is this: At the moment, no one knows whose 160GB drive is in the new Macbook Pro. We'll have to wait until someone here has received theirs, and then we'll be to resolve this by looking at the System Profiler.
I believe all companies are using PMR in order to achieve such high capacities in the 2.5" form factor. I don't think it's possible to achieve 160GB with LMR alone. I think those are the only 3 companies making such drives anyway.
 
ok I just paid for my very first Apple product. A Macbook Pro :cool:
My current laptop...a toshiba piece of **** is about to die so the timing couldn't be more perfect with the release of the core 2 duo macbook pro.

What sucks is that since we have no apple store in Vancity, I went to an authorized reseller go get it and I have no way on knowing when the laptop will arrive. it should arrive in 1 or 2 weeks tops, but it kills me not being able to track my new best friend.


So it's official. I have switched teams.
Good bye Bill Gates. Thanks for the viruses and the spam.
 
All i can say is Damn TNT. I'm in Belfast and their tracking system asks for your 8 number consigment number, and apple actually give a 10 numbered one. :D I'm still chuffed , happy and excited though. . .i can't wait to open the box and all it's different layers slowly. :D ;)
 
I've heard this said several times on this forum, and I did pick the 160GB drive - but does anyone actually have PROOF that the 160GB drive is one of the ones with PMR?

-Westside guy

Yes, it is the only way to get 160gb on a 2.5inch platter without suffering superparamagnetic effects.

The mere capacity tells you that it is PMR.

Anything above about 90gb on a single 2.5inch will be PMR.

Also to your other question, I myself am curious as to who's drive it is - hoping for Hitachi's due to the IrMnCr "Superhead" and the battery-friendly consumption.
 
I'm curious to see what route my new laptop takes to get here. When I bought my Powerbook three years ago, it left Taiwan, went to Illinois (as part of a bulk shipment I think), and then came here (Washington state) via Fedex Ground. Rather indirect, and rather maddening as I recall.

This time it's coming from mainland China, and it has its own tracking number from Shanghai. I'm kinda hoping the route is a bit more direct this time. :D
 
I am looking for a really good attorney who can and is willing to hande a lawsuit of this nature. I want to really go after them big time and for not a measly amount. Are any of you who read here fearless and good lawyers? Or do any of you know any really good ones?

I'm an attorney. Quote honestly, as is pretty common, it would probably cost more in litigation costs than it would for the item. And although I don't even know what the cost of that item was, I think there are more conservative options that might be more fruitful. For one, was it insured? If so, there you are. If not, contact NOT JUST your local post office (especially not only by phone call. Go IN to you local post office, and don't leave until you talk to the building supervisor. Only call ahead to find out when said individual will be there. They may not care, but SOMEONE higher up may. Go all the way up to the Postmaster General if you have to. Lastly, contact the police. If it can be classified as a Federal offense, which I *believe* it might be, then the "G" will be after your culprit.

Unfortunately, even if you really want to go ahead with it, I couldn't help you anyway as I'm in Illinois. But, I do have a friend in Florida from my graduating class you can contact. PM me if you want me to locate him for you.
 
I'm an attorney. Quote honestly, as is pretty common, it would probably cost more in litigation costs than it would for the item. And although I don't even know what the cost of that item was, I think there are more conservative options that might be more fruitful. For one, was it insured? If so, there you are. If not, contact NOT JUST your local post office (especially not only by phone call. Go IN to you local post office, and don't leave until you talk to the building supervisor. Only call ahead to find out when said individual will be there. They may not care, but SOMEONE higher up may. Go all the way up to the Postmaster General if you have to. Lastly, contact the police. If it can be classified as a Federal offense, which I *believe* it might be, then the "G" will be after your culprit.

Unfortunately, even if you really want to go ahead with it, I couldn't help you anyway as I'm in Illinois. But, I do have a friend in Florida from my graduating class you can contact. PM me if you want me to locate him for you.

I have sent you a PM
 
I'm curious to see what route my new laptop takes to get here. When I bought my Powerbook three years ago, it left Taiwan, went to Illinois (as part of a bulk shipment I think), and then came here (Washington state) via Fedex Ground. Rather indirect, and rather maddening as I recall.

This time it's coming from mainland China, and it has its own tracking number from Shanghai. I'm kinda hoping the route is a bit more direct this time. :D

Mine went from Shanghai to Anchorage to Indianapolis and is now on its way to Chicago... might arrive Monday.
 
Has anyone with a glossy screen gotten theres yet? Thats the only thing I can think of thats holding up my order
 
It's so excited to read this thread.

I've got a 17" on order. Not shipping until the 7th. But I hope Apple ships sooner. But honestly, as long as the quality is solid, I don't mind waiting.
 
When it shipped

Ship date:
Oct 27, 2006
Estimated delivery
Nov 1, 2006 10:30 AM

Its current location:
Oct 28, 2006 6:59 PM
Departed FedEx location
INDIANAPOLIS, IN


My MBP -
2.33GHz Intel Core 2 Duo
2GB 667 DDR2 SDRAM-2x1GB
160GB Serial ATA Drive@5400rpm
SuperDrive 6X
15" Widescreen Display
BkLit Keyboard/Mac OS
Country Kit

It says it will be here the 1st of Nov. Its coming to NY.

Sooon so soon
 
I was really suprised about Apple actually installing a Real amount of RAM on a base configuration.... I wished they had upped the Video card as well to the 7600 but I waited long enough. I sold my G5 2Ghz before the (ANY) intel systems shipped. So I have been using my PB g4 1.67 since. Main reason I'm upgrading is because QT movies play back like crud on the PB G4. Takes up all the processor speed and battery life just to play an itunes TV show. I bought a mac mini CDuo for my folks and that little thing blows my G4 away.
 
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