Apple Releases Firmware Update 7.7.9 and 7.6.9 for AirPort Base Stations [Updated]

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  1. Cappy macrumors 6502

    May 29, 2002
    This kind of product wouldn't make any sense as most people don't have a router in the location where they would want a product such as this.
  2. manu chao macrumors 603

    Jul 30, 2003
    That applies to single-router systems but not to applications where multiple routers/WiFi access points are necessary to cover a given area. Here mesh networks are a major advance in regard to (automatic) setup and coverage.
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    If you are referring to the Airport updates, they can only be applied through the Airport Utility and are downloaded by said app.
  3. centauratlas macrumors 6502a


    Jan 29, 2003
    And the Mini which is an "important" product for Apple that is over 3 years old, and that model a step backward for more than 5. ;-)
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    I hope you are right too. A bundle like that would help them sell even one, get the extra features thrown in. Kind of like, "buy a phone, get an iPod and computer thrown in."
  4. Le Big Mac macrumors 68030

    Le Big Mac

    Jan 7, 2003
    Washington, DC
    I'm having a hard time imagining Apple being willing to adopt some of that antenna tech - just doesn't look very apple.

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    Can't you put your Time Capsule on the network (or ApExtreme + HD) and use Time Machine to back up to that? (And of course there's the NAS approach).
  5. MartinAllen@com macrumors newbie

    Sep 17, 2007
    Updated to new firmware in Airport Base Station. Airport Utility no long shows network. Can't find Airport Base Station. Network printer no longer works. Has anyone else encountered this? Is there a way to revert?
  6. Chupa Chupa macrumors G5

    Chupa Chupa

    Jul 16, 2002
    You could say the same thing -- and people did -- about the iPhone X's ears when the first unconfirmed pictures were released. But then we learned it was the real deal. Apple will design to the best that tech will allow but sometimes current tech works great but nothing you can do about it's looks.

    But unfortunately I don't think we'll get the opportunity. It's quite clear with the vast array of mesh WiFi systems out there that Apple doesn't want to compete in this area anymore. It's not because Apple couldn't design a box that wouldn't look at least as good as any of the other mesh systems out there. It's just that Apple feels there are easier spaces to make a buck.
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    Did you try the usual -- reboot the Mac, power down the base station, unplug the cables from the base station, leave off for a minute then power, plug back up, power on?

    Also try a soft reset. Worst case you'll have to do a hard/factory reset and start from scratch. PITA.
  7. jazz1 macrumors 65816


    Aug 19, 2002
    Mid-West USA
    Maybe this is Apple's way of saying, "Don't Mesh with me!" ;)
  8. green94 macrumors regular

    Mar 17, 2009
    Of course it would - in a mesh network type setting (similar to Google/Eero/etc) you would be able to place the device in a kitchen, bedroom, basement, etc... and extend your network in any place you choose. Makes sense to me anyways, lol.
  9. RMo macrumors 65816


    Aug 7, 2007
    Iowa, USA
    It does say the updates to all the way back to the 802.11n products, which were first introduced around 2007. I was also shocked, figuring Apple would have only cared about the latest model or or two.

    You can actually go farther back than that. ;) They released an update for a product released in 2007, the 802.11n AirPort Extreme. (This was the first model they made in the square form factor after moving away from the UFO-looking ones.) They've gone back and done similar things before for widespread security problems, like the iOS 6 update for the SSL vulnerability, but I'm still (pleasantly) surprised.
  10. Bob Zimmerman macrumors member

    Aug 31, 2015
    Aerohive makes some capable access points with very Apple-like design:

    The status light is normally just white. No blinking. If it detects a problem, it goes either solid orange or slowly blinking orange. It's more angular than I would expect something from Apple to be, but is very close in terms of operation and internals. The antennas are very good.
  11. TechThink macrumors newbie


    Dec 13, 2017
    Agreed! I recently moved and needed something new. I tried out a new, premium Asus router and had nothing but trouble getting any of my HomeKit stuff to work. Even after trying manual configurations, open-source firmware, etc., it would fail to maintain connectivity daily. Even though they're older now, I ended up buying a new set of AirPort Extreme routers. I knew they would work...and of course, they did, without any issues.

    I want to know I'll be able to buy something from Apple in the future. Or, find an alternative router that actually consistently works with HomeKit devices. So far, not even Eero seems to have a perfect track record in that regard.
  12. Menel macrumors 603


    Aug 4, 2011
    Wave2 MUMIMO
  13. kagharaht macrumors 6502a

    Oct 7, 2007
    I'm with you on this one. With all the bugs lately, the last thing I want is an update to brick my Airport AC.
  14. Weaselboy Moderator


    Staff Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    There are currently no Apple products made that support MU-MINO. I think there are some Android devices that do though. Even then, at this point MU-MIMO seems to be a good idea in theory, but in practice so far it has been a bit of a mess. Smallnetbuilder even quit testing it in new routers because it just does not work (yet). Pretty good article here.
  15. DogHouseDub macrumors 6502


    Sep 19, 2007
    When was the last time Apple released an asymmetrically shaped product?
  16. s15119 macrumors 65816


    Nov 20, 2010
    Glad to have the update- my Mac Air alerted me it was available and update was fast and flawless. Also quite impressed and pleased with the level of discussion on this thread. These are the types and level of discussion I miss from the old MacRumors. Cheers.
  17. Mark Booth macrumors 68000

    Mark Booth

    Jan 16, 2008
    I purchased an ASUS RT-AC1900P at Best Buy today. The user interface is more complex than AirPort but it has many features that Apple never dreamed of putting in its WiFi routers. And the signal strength/range is definitely better than AirPort too. In testing (I read multiple reviews) the ASUS RT-AC1900P easily bests the AirPort 802.11ac.

    My Ring doorbell is finally working like it should. VERY fast with notifications now. Like, instantaneous.

    Screw Apple. I'm going to take a sledgehammer to the AirPort Extreme later this week. Then I'll recycle it.

  18. shinji macrumors 65816


    Mar 18, 2007
    I had no problems updating my Airport Extreme through the iOS Airport Utility app. Took a little while but eventually rebooted, and that was that.
  19. ugahairydawgs macrumors 68030


    Jun 10, 2010
    How long did it take yours? I’m in the process of updating mine now. Been rebooting for about 10 minutes. Orange light on the front. Tempted to restart but don’t want to monkey with anything if it is still loading the firmware.
  20. shinji macrumors 65816


    Mar 18, 2007
    Not that long, maybe 5-6 mins.

    Did you do it through the iOS Airport Utility app or the Mac app? Someone earlier in the thread said the Mac app tries to repeatedly download the update.
  21. ugahairydawgs macrumors 68030


    Jun 10, 2010
    I used the iOS app. Eventually gave up and power cycled it. Came right back up.
  22. TTTedP macrumors member

    Nov 27, 2017
    I have two AExtremes hardwire to a FiOS supplied router for years now and was working fine. The FiOS router died over Thanksgiving and gave me a perfect opportunity to try a new set up. I did a swap of the FiOS router with a Ubiquiti Edge Router X and the existing AExtremes. I also bought a Google WiFi 3 pack to compare to.

    Long story short, the Ubiquiti Edge router is the real deal (and only $50) but it's not for the every man. Google Wifi worked surprisingly well. Easy set up. Nice simple iOS app. Pushed updates. Very user friendly. I think that is the one I would recommend for the common man if you're doing a rip and replace of Apple stuff. I just can't get past the feeling that because it's Google, something sneaky is going on.
  23. John.B macrumors 601


    Jan 15, 2008
    Holocene Epoch
    Antennas are the reason for the "tall" TimeCapsules.
  24. macsba macrumors 6502

    Jan 5, 2015
    Next to my Mac.
    Yeah, all your traffic being routed through the google servers.
  25. getrealbro, Dec 14, 2017
    Last edited: Dec 14, 2017

    getrealbro macrumors regular

    Sep 25, 2015
    Has anyone updated an 802.11n AirPort Extreme/Express to v7.6.9 and confirmed that it still supports SNMP after the update?

    FWIW I use SNMP to monitor the internet traffic on our Airport Extreme in real time with NetUse Traffic Monitor.

    Thanks in Advance - GetRealBro

    Edit: For the idly curious… I just updated the firmware on an Airport Express from 7.6.8 to 7.6.9 and SNMP still works.

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