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I was going by heart rate since you mentioned the Polar heart rate chest strap.

Polar app might say 500 calories (the strap itself doesn't tell you calories burned).

Treadmill might say 200 calories. Endomondo might say something else. MapMyRun might say something else. The bike at the gym might say something else. The Watch might say something else.

You're gonna return the watch because the calorie count on apps differ?

If you (or your wife) knows that she was in the heart rate training zone for X minutes during a workout -- then that should be what matters most. Who cares what the calorie count on an app says? They're ALL estimates and they're all going to be different.

Is the calorie count always doubled on Polaris? Because sometimes third-party apps get confused by the HealthKit import vs. a proprietary process and double-count things.

If, for example, MyFitnessPal were configured to get data from both HealthKit -and- straight from Polaris (not sure if there's a bridge there, but if) then it might doublecount the calories.
 
Took 15 minutes to update. The watch was very warm when I took it off the charger.

First thing I have noticed is the blue tooth and wifi are much better at connecting.

I used to loose the wifi connection in the house and would have to get the iPhone and let it reconnect to blue tooth and then wifi. Now it just seems to work consistently all over the house.
 
  1. Glances are *definitely* much faster to load.
  2. Activate on wrist raise is much snappier and more consistent.
  3. "Hey Siri" works pretty much every time now (screen has to be on).
  4. Calendar still won't let you go past your current month.

Those are my first impressions after 10 minutes with the update.
 
"Innovative TouchWiz UI"? LOL. What?

I think that you're on the wrong site, friend. And the wrong thread, to boot. :rolleyes:

How are any of us iPad naysayers wrong? Our criticisms of this crap device still stand today as they did when it was first unveiled. It's a big iPod touch not capable of satisfying any computing needs on or near the level of a laptop or a truly modern tablet. Apple has yet to address any of the shortcomings of this product, including the ridiculous product name.

The iPad's value as a novelty is beginning to waver as indicated in the quarterly sales decline as people are beginning to see the disturbing truth behind this product's existence: to separate you from your hard-earned cash by repackaging low-tech parts from a 4.7 body into a 9.7 body. Apple has figured out how to sell the same exact product twice to the gullible.

Every time I'm at an modest coffee shop and see someone pull out an iPad I respond by pulling out my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 rocking Android 5.0.2 Lollipop with Samsung's innovative TouchWiz UI, a lightning fast quard core Qualcomm Snapdragon, 1.5 GB RAM, and of course a microSDXC card slot for expansion. Bam. Checkmate.
 
can anyone with 1.0 compare this with your astronomy face? It might be the safari-snappier placebo but to my eyes earth is more saturated in 1.0.1:

Yea, the 1.0.1 astronomy face is much more saturated. I attached the 1.0 one to compare. I still like the upcoming Living Earth glance better tho ;)
 

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How stupid. My watch is 48% charged and I need to charge it to 50% to do the update.

Problem is as soon as I take it off my wrist the watch locks and I am unable to see the charge so I don't know when it gets to 50%
 
Is the calorie count always doubled on Polaris? Because sometimes third-party apps get confused by the HealthKit import vs. a proprietary process and double-count things.

If, for example, MyFitnessPal were configured to get data from both HealthKit -and- straight from Polaris (not sure if there's a bridge there, but if) then it might doublecount the calories.

Yeah always. And it's not necessarily doubled, by just about.

She's a girl working out. Literally all she cares about is how many calories she's burned. Then she inputs those numbers into this app to compete with her girlfriends.

I'm sure you guys are right, and every single device out there will give her different calorie readings, but from her point of view, the Polar says she burned several hundred more, and therefore her Watch is crap. That's how she feels.

No way to know which of the two is more accurate right? Any scientific tests I could do to convince her?

We're going to go on a run this afternoon with the phone, to hopefully calibrate her stride and pray those calorie numbers go up, haha!
 
Update Issues

I had issues with the update pausing...then it couldn't connect to the iPhone. I went in and unpaired the watch (since I couldn't think of anything else I hadn't already tried) and didn't think about it but it deleted the Credit Cards from Apple Pay...what a pain this is turning into. :mad:
 
watch is at 75% and the iPhone watch app is telling me to charge to at least 50%... it's 75%, oh well i'll throw it on the charge when i get home.:rolleyes:
 
Every time I'm at an modest coffee shop and see someone pull out an iPad I respond by pulling out my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 rocking Android 5.0.2 Lollipop with Samsung's innovative TouchWiz UI, a lightning fast quard core Qualcomm Snapdragon, 1.5 GB RAM, and of course a microSDXC card slot for expansion. Bam. Checkmate.

Oh yeah, because Android tablet apps are so much more productive than iPad apps. :rolleyes: Not to even mention that an iPad Air 2 blows that thing away in absolutely every respect. Plus with cloud storage, who really needs a SD card slot on a tablet anyway??
 
Yeah always. And it's not necessarily doubled, by just about.

She's a girl working out. Literally all she cares about is how many calories she's burned. Then she inputs those numbers into this app to compete with her girlfriends.

I'm sure you guys are right, and every single device out there will give her different calorie readings, but from her point of view, the Polar says she burned several hundred more, and therefore her Watch is crap. That's how she feels.

No way to know which of the two is more accurate right? Any scientific tests I could do to convince her?

We're going to go on a run this afternoon with the phone, to hopefully calibrate her stride and pray those calorie numbers go up, haha!

Well, it's not going to matter to your wife, but as a general rule, the smallest number you get is likely the one you should use when it comes to actual calorie burn and weight loss. Folks use the highest number they get and then wonder why they don't lose any weight, LOL. It's the same with step counters - "well my fitbit is more accurate because it shows more steps!" Um. no.

Also, the AW separates out active calories from the calories you would have burned if you'd been sedative while you were doing to workout. Maybe she's only looking at the active number, not summing? The Polar (or at least, my Polar) only gives me the total number.

Your wife could just keep the Apple watch and double the calorie count for her competition, LOL.

And I'm just a girl working out too. I also happen to be a personal trainer. The female factor is not at play here.
 
watch is at 75% and the iPhone watch app is telling me to charge to at least 50%... it's 75%, oh well i'll throw it on the charge when i get home.:rolleyes:

It has to be on the charger to update....probably why it is telling you it needs to be charged.
 
How are any of us iPad naysayers wrong? Our criticisms of this crap device still stand today as they did when it was first unveiled. It's a big iPod touch not capable of satisfying any computing needs on or near the level of a laptop or a truly modern tablet. Apple has yet to address any of the shortcomings of this product, including the ridiculous product name.

The iPad's value as a novelty is beginning to waver as indicated in the quarterly sales decline as people are beginning to see the disturbing truth behind this product's existence: to separate you from your hard-earned cash by repackaging low-tech parts from a 4.7 body into a 9.7 body. Apple has figured out how to sell the same exact product twice to the gullible.

Every time I'm at an modest coffee shop and see someone pull out an iPad I respond by pulling out my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 rocking Android 5.0.2 Lollipop with Samsung's innovative TouchWiz UI, a lightning fast quard core Qualcomm Snapdragon, 1.5 GB RAM, and of course a microSDXC card slot for expansion. Bam. Checkmate.

you do know that the average consumer can spot and pick out an Apple device but will have to ask "what tablet is that" when it comes to Android. Heck they can even spot a windows Surface. You're only impressing other Android geeks. if you want to impress and tick someone off (android user) pull out an Apple device.
 
watch is at 75% and the iPhone watch app is telling me to charge to at least 50%... it's 75%, oh well i'll throw it on the charge when i get home.:rolleyes:

Got to be over 50% AND on charger... which is irritating but I can sorta see the logic here. If you have an update fail through lack of power on iOS devices there's at least a vague chance you can recover at home by plugging in a cable and running updates through iTunes. With the Watch though it's wireless so if something breaks it's off to an Apple store. Safety first might not be a bad approach here.

One thing I'm noticing is everything seems a fair bit more responsive. The watch OS itself has always felt pretty good from day one but now glances seem quicker to load and moving from a glance to an app seems noticeably faster. Have to see if that holds up or if it's just a reboot cleaning things up but so far so good.
 
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